I suspect the A# major triad(s) in my brass quartet gave the players
involved a chance to cash in some practive routines that they don't get to
redeem very often!
ajr
> At 4:29 PM -0400 9/30/09, dhbailey wrote:
>>And I can't think of very many musical situations where you would
>>want some of the
> [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of John Howell
> >From what I have seen, string instruments are more
> comfortable playing
> >in sharps.
>
> True (although not responsive to the question), but for two
> very specific reasons.
>
> 1. There are more open strings available in sharp
Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote:
And advanced musicians also will understand that a Db and a C# is the same
during instructions. The number of sharps and flats shall always be kept as low
as possible.
I agree that "the number of sharps and flats shall always be
kept as low as possible" in
At 2:59 PM -0400 9/30/09, Phil Daley wrote:
From what I have seen, string instruments are more comfortable
playing in sharps.
True (although not responsive to the question), but for two very
specific reasons.
1. There are more open strings available in sharp keys. You start
losing open st
At 4:29 PM -0400 9/30/09, dhbailey wrote:
And I can't think of very many musical situations where you would
want some of the musicians to be in one key and others to be in a
different key, even if enharmonically equivalent.
Au contraire! Writing for a university show ensemble with a 12-piece
John Howell wrote:
At 6:02 PM -0400 9/30/09, Darcy James Argue wrote:
This is an issue I'd certainly bring up with the composer, i.e, "Are
you *sure* you absolutely need this passage written in Cb? Because
it's going to be a whole lot easier to read in B."
Agreed about asking, but easier in B
Hi John,
Fair enough, but definitely not the call I would have made. Obviously
we don't have a double-blind controlled study here, but the fact that
they stumbled sight-reading it in Cb would make me at least curious
about trying it in B next time.
Cheers,
- Darcy
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djar...@earthlink
At 6:02 PM -0400 9/30/09, Darcy James Argue wrote:
This is an issue I'd certainly bring up with the composer, i.e, "Are
you *sure* you absolutely need this passage written in Cb? Because
it's going to be a whole lot easier to read in B."
Agreed about asking, but easier in B for whom? The last
Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote:
And advanced musicians also will understand that a Db and a C# is the same
during instructions. The number of sharps and flats shall always be kept as low
as possible.
Klaus
I always teach my private students that, for example, Gb should be
played/thought as "
And advanced musicians also will understand that a Db and a C# is the same
during instructions. The number of sharps and flats shall always be kept as low
as possible.
Klaus
--- On Wed, 9/30/09, dhbailey wrote:
From: dhbailey
Subject: Re: [Finale] Interesting behavior
To: finale@shsu.edu
Darcy James Argue wrote:
Should have been "Bb and *Eb* instruments," obviously.
Cheers,
- Darcy
Well, except for the Bari player, who is always a little off anyway. ;>
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Should have been "Bb and *Eb* instruments," obviously.
Cheers,
- Darcy
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Brooklyn, NY
On 30 Sep 2009, at 6:00 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Assuming standard bigband instrumentation, you've got only Bb and Cb
instruments
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In Carl's case, Cb is the only key that needs simplifying. When
"simplify" is checked, Finale wraps anything more than six sharps or
six flats.
Assuming standard bigband instrumentation, you've got only Bb and Cb
instruments, and therefore your transposed keys are Ab and Db, both
standard
This is an issue I'd certainly bring up with the composer, i.e, "Are
you *sure* you absolutely need this passage written in Cb? Because
it's going to be a whole lot easier to read in B."
Cheers,
- Darcy
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djar...@earthlink.net
Brooklyn, NY
On 30 Sep 2009, at 5:58 PM, Carl Dershem wrot
Darcy James Argue wrote:
"Simplify Key" is designed to avoid unwieldy, nonstandard keys (like,
ahem, Cb major, which IMO you *really* ought to reconsider) on
transposing instruments. In the vast majority of cases, this is what you
want. If a piece is in F# major, the clarinets should be written
Yeah, it's just weird that if you choose a concert key of Cb (which
IS perfectly standard; no double flats or anything. I remember
practicing études in that key) then it gets changed ONLY on the
octave transposing instruments like guit and bass by default.
Christopher
On Wed Sep 30, at We
Guitar and bass are transposing instruments. I'm sure that if you
look at the transposition options in the staff attributes, you'll
find that "simplify key" is checked.
Michael
On 30 Sep 2009, at 19:40, Carl Dershem wrote:
I'm working on a big band piece that has a section in 7 flats (C-
F
"Simplify Key" is designed to avoid unwieldy, nonstandard keys (like,
ahem, Cb major, which IMO you *really* ought to reconsider) on
transposing instruments. In the vast majority of cases, this is what
you want. If a piece is in F# major, the clarinets should be written
in Ab -- not G#!
C
Christopher Smith wrote:
Well, a few things come to mind.
First of all, is this an old file being opened in a newer version of
Finale? We know opening older versions is SUPPOSED to be transparent,
but in real life... I have stopped using templates made in old versions
of Finale because they g
And I can't think of very many musical situations where you
would want some of the musicians to be in one key and others
to be in a different key, even if enharmonically equivalent.
Stop the rehearsal and say "that Db needs to be changed"
and you'll get the guitarists and bassists scratching t
Still, that should be the users' decisions and not Finale's.
ajr
> From what I have seen, string instruments are more comfortable playing in
> sharps.
>
> Trombones are more comfortable playing in flats.
>
>
> At 9/30/2009 01:40 PM, Carl Dershem wrote:
>
> >I'm working on a big band piece that
Well, a few things come to mind.
First of all, is this an old file being opened in a newer version of
Finale? We know opening older versions is SUPPOSED to be transparent,
but in real life... I have stopped using templates made in old
versions of Finale because they gave me so much trouble,
> Carl Dershem wrote:
> > I'm working on a big band piece that has a section in 7
> flats (C-Flat)
> > in the middle. Oddly enough, the guitar and bass parts are in 5
> > sharps (B).
> >
> > FinWin2k4
> >
> > Does anyone have any idea why Finale might do that? And if so, why
> > the guita
my full name, as it comes with the mail address)
--- On Wed, 9/30/09, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote:
From: Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre
Subject: {Fraud?} {Disarmed} Re: [Finale] Interesting behavior
To: finale@shsu.edu
Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 8:27 PM
Actually it speaks for Final being
From what I have seen, string instruments are more comfortable playing in
sharps.
Trombones are more comfortable playing in flats.
At 9/30/2009 01:40 PM, Carl Dershem wrote:
>I'm working on a big band piece that has a section in 7 flats (C-Flat)
>in the middle. Oddly enough, the guitar and b
Actually it speaks for Final being rational.
Klaus
--- On Wed, 9/30/09, Carl Dershem wrote:
From: Carl Dershem
Subject: [Finale] Interesting behavior
To: finale@shsu.edu
Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 7:40 PM
I'm working on a big band piece that has a section in 7 flats (C-Flat) i
Carl Dershem wrote:
I'm working on a big band piece that has a section in 7 flats (C-Flat)
in the middle. Oddly enough, the guitar and bass parts are in 5 sharps
(B).
FinWin2k4
Does anyone have any idea why Finale might do that? And if so, why the
guitar and bass, but not the piano? And n
I'm working on a big band piece that has a section in 7 flats (C-Flat)
in the middle. Oddly enough, the guitar and bass parts are in 5 sharps (B).
FinWin2k4
Does anyone have any idea why Finale might do that? And if so, why the
guitar and bass, but not the piano? And not the trombones?
Ve
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