Re: [Finale] Notation for Recorder

2005-02-24 Thread John Howell
At 6:09 PM -0500 2/23/05, Jacki Barineau wrote:
Hi, Everyone - I have another question about notating for alto recorder!
Does anyone know how you notate those slides they do - like when they hit
a low note and kind of float up to a higher note?  Or when they hit a note
and kind of droop down to the next note.  Don't know if I'm explaining
this right, but it's done frequently in Celtic style recorder playing!  I
have an mp3 file (18 seconds) that would show what I'm talking about but I
wasn't sure if it's okay to post attachments to this list!
Thanks for any help with this!  I've never notated for recorder before, so
between that and learning Finale(!) - I just figured out how to do the grace
notes, but just wasn't sure how to notate these slide things...
It isn't part of Baroque recorder technique, but I'd suggest using 
the jazz signs for pull up and fall off to get the idea across.

Also, just to make sure you know, unless your player asks for 
something else it should be notated in treble clef at concert pitch 
(not transposed) in the octave from the F above middle C to the F two 
octaves higher (F1-F3 Helmholtz notation).  That way a Celtic flutist 
can read from the same part.  Alto players reading from vocal 
notation read from notation an octave lower and play it up an octave, 
but solo parts are almost always notated at pitch.

John

- Jacki
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Re: [Finale] Notation for Recorder

2005-02-24 Thread Jacki Barineau
on 2/23/05 6:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When I've come across this type of thing it hasn't been notated, it's
 something you add as an improvised ornament.
  
 Would the standard glissando mark be used for this?
  
 I've seen the indication bend in some music which wants this type of thing,
 but this was jazzy type stuff, not Celtic.

Thanks, Lawrence...  I bet you're right about the gliss. Mark for the
slides.  So where you've seen the bend indication - is it just the word
bend itself, or is there a symbol for this?

Thanks again, everyone!

Jacki


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Re: [Finale] Notation for Recorder

2005-02-24 Thread Jacki Barineau
on 2/24/05 10:58 AM, John Howell wrote:

 It isn't part of Baroque recorder technique, but I'd suggest using
 the jazz signs for pull up and fall off to get the idea across.
 
 Also, just to make sure you know, unless your player asks for
 something else it should be notated in treble clef at concert pitch
 (not transposed) in the octave from the F above middle C to the F two
 octaves higher (F1-F3 Helmholtz notation).  That way a Celtic flutist
 can read from the same part.  Alto players reading from vocal
 notation read from notation an octave lower and play it up an octave,
 but solo parts are almost always notated at pitch.

Thanks for the tips, John - I appreciate it!

Jacki


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Re: [Finale] Notation for Recorder

2005-02-24 Thread YATESLAWRENCE



Hi Jacki,

It just said "bend" in italics. I think sometimes there was a diagonal line 
too . I must admit I've not seen it very often as I tend to stay away from 
jazz in case it makes me ill. :-)

All the best,

Lawrence

"þaes 
ofereode - þisses swa 
maeg"http://lawrenceyates.co.uk
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Re: [Finale] Notation for Recorder

2005-02-24 Thread Jacki Barineau
Title: Re: [Finale] Notation for Recorder



on 2/24/05 1:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It just said bend in italics. I think sometimes there was a diagonal line too . I must admit I've not seen it very often as I tend to stay away from jazz in case it makes me ill. :-)


LOL!! :)

Thanks, Lawrence  that should make sense I would think... (the bend part I mean!)



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[Finale] Notation for Recorder

2005-02-23 Thread Jacki Barineau
Hi, Everyone - I have another question about notating for alto recorder!
Does anyone know how you notate those slides they do - like when they hit
a low note and kind of float up to a higher note?  Or when they hit a note
and kind of droop down to the next note.  Don't know if I'm explaining
this right, but it's done frequently in Celtic style recorder playing!  I
have an mp3 file (18 seconds) that would show what I'm talking about but I
wasn't sure if it's okay to post attachments to this list!

Thanks for any help with this!  I've never notated for recorder before, so
between that and learning Finale(!) - I just figured out how to do the grace
notes, but just wasn't sure how to notate these slide things...

- Jacki


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Re: [Finale] Notation for Recorder

2005-02-23 Thread YATESLAWRENCE





In a message dated 23/02/2005 23:10:02 GMT Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Does 
  anyone know how you notate those "slides" they do - like when they hita 
  low note and kind of "float" up to a higher note?
When I've come across this type of thing it hasn't been notated, it's 
something you add as an improvised ornament.

Would the standard glissando mark be used for this? 

I've seen the indication "bend" in some music which wants this type of 
thing, but this was "jazzy" type stuff, not Celtic.

All the best,

Lawrence
"þaes 
ofereode - þisses swa 
maeg"http://lawrenceyates.co.uk
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