Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:

2019-09-02 Thread Aaron Sherber
There are a number of examples of this in Britten's operas -- not exactly au courant, but I've always found him to be a model of notational clarity. He used both "Missus" and "Mrs."; a quick flip through some scores shows more of the latter than the former. Aaron. On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 5:21

Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:

2019-09-02 Thread Giovanni Andreani
I would consider using the word extension symbol; although it is intended for a melisma, it might point out the composer’s intention and, as Jennifer Higdon points out, the singer should be able to find the best placing. Giovanni Andreani www.giovanniandreani.com www.ga-music.com > On

Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:

2019-08-28 Thread timothy price
This is a pretty trivial matter, but since it is being discused, might as well get it right Interesting that you say MISSUS is the preferred form of the abbreviation “Mrs.”. Please provide your reference source. Missis and Missus are two different words with different uses: missis is the

Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:

2019-08-27 Thread Jon Delfin
"Mis-sus" is the accepted spelling/syllabification in music and in text. There's also at least one movie title that uses it. It's not offensive (the dictionary's reference to "dialect" is not prohibitive or damning). If everyone refuses to accept a century of precedent, I have nothing further. On

Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:

2019-08-27 Thread Christopher Smith
In “Me and Mrs. Jones” the publisher spells it “mis-sus”, which I am not sure about. I would have spelled it as “miss-es”, since it is pronounced the same as “hits and misses” with the last “s” voiced (“z”) and nobody has to question whether it’s actually unvoiced the way they would if you

Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:

2019-08-27 Thread Michael Edwards
[ Robert Patterson: ] FWIW (joking aside) my copy of Merriam Webster correctly identifies "missus" as dialect in one of the definitions, and I would rather avoid that implication. In that case, how would "Mr - s." go? But that might cause the singer to start pronouncing "Mister" -

Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:

2019-08-27 Thread Aaron Rabushka
ubject: Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.: Sometimes spellings errors are there to match the rhyming patterns. AWALNATION does “Bad Wolf” with: “Oh my God I think I might’ve made a mustake Waiting patiently was waiting taking up space We are waiting taking up space.” But all I got

Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:

2019-08-27 Thread timothy price
Sometimes spellings errors are there to match the rhyming patterns. AWALNATION does “Bad Wolf” with: “Oh my God I think I might’ve made a mustake Waiting patiently was waiting taking up space We are waiting taking up space.” But all I got was “how do you notate “Mrs.”, a one syllable word,

Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:

2019-08-27 Thread Don Hart
Or, along the lines of my earlier idea: "Mrs." centered under the notes and "missus" or the dictionary spelling of the pronunciation in parentheses, right below. Wouldn't that avoid any sort of implication? On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 11:23 AM Robert Patterson < rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote:

Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:

2019-08-27 Thread Robert Patterson
FWIW (joking aside) my copy of Merriam Webster correctly identifies "missus" as dialect in one of the definitions, and I would rather avoid that implication. On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 11:12 AM Jon Delfin wrote: > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 12:08 PM timothy price > wrote: > > > Missus isn’t even a

Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:

2019-08-27 Thread Jon Delfin
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 12:08 PM timothy price wrote: > Missus isn’t even a word. (What else could you expect from composers?) Or Merriam Webster. What do *they* know about words? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:

2019-08-27 Thread timothy price
> placing. It seems to be clearer for them. >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Robert Patterson >>> To: finale >>> Sent: Tue, Aug 27, 2019 9:28 am >>> Subject: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of

Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:

2019-08-27 Thread Jon Delfin
setting this > > typed out as one word, under 2 notes, and letting the singer do the > > placing. It seems to be clearer for them. > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Robert Patterson > > To: finale > > Sent: Tue, Aug 27, 20

Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:

2019-08-27 Thread Robert Patterson
gt; Sent: Tue, Aug 27, 2019 9:28 am > Subject: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.: > > Has anyone ever had to divide "Mrs." into two syllables for vocal underlay? > Any suggestions? > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale

Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:

2019-08-27 Thread Jennifer Higdon
Patterson To: finale Sent: Tue, Aug 27, 2019 9:28 am Subject: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.: Has anyone ever had to divide "Mrs." into two syllables for vocal underlay? Any suggestions? ___ Finale mailing list Finale

Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:

2019-08-27 Thread Williams, Jim
on Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 9:54 AM To: finale mailto:finale@shsu.edu>> Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.: Technically, "Mrs." is the abbreviation of "Mistress", but no one says that any more. Hence, there is no generally accepted way to spell it out how w

Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:

2019-08-27 Thread timothy price
" "mizz." > > Dalvin > > -Original Message- > From: Finale On Behalf Of Robert Patterson > Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 9:54 AM > To: finale > Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.: > > Technically, "Mrs." is the

Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:

2019-08-27 Thread Dalvin Boone
How about "Ms-es?" "Ms" is an common sub for Mrs. and most know to pronounce "Ms" "mizz." Dalvin -Original Message- From: Finale On Behalf Of Robert Patterson Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 9:54 AM To: finale Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: Voc

Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:

2019-08-27 Thread Jon Delfin
Merriam Webster says "mis-sus." On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 9:50 AM timothy price wrote: > Isn’t Mrs. the abbreviation of Missis? Mis-sis. > > > On Aug 27, 2019, at 9:28 AM, Robert Patterson < > rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote: > > > > Has anyone ever had to divide "Mrs." into two syllables for

Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:

2019-08-27 Thread Robert Patterson
Technically, "Mrs." is the abbreviation of "Mistress", but no one says that any more. Hence, there is no generally accepted way to spell it out how we pronounce it. On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 8:51 AM timothy price wrote: > Isn’t Mrs. the abbreviation of Missis? Mis-sis. > > > On Aug 27, 2019, at

Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:

2019-08-27 Thread timothy price
Isn’t Mrs. the abbreviation of Missis? Mis-sis. > On Aug 27, 2019, at 9:28 AM, Robert Patterson > wrote: > > Has anyone ever had to divide "Mrs." into two syllables for vocal underlay? > Any suggestions? > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:

2019-08-27 Thread Don Hart
I'd probably spell out phonetically and maybe put Mrs. in parentheses somewhere to clarify. On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 8:31 AM GERALD BERG wrote: > Perhaps Mrs-ses? > GJB > > On Tuesday, August 27, 2019, 9:28:45 AM EDT, Robert Patterson < > rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote: > > Has anyone

Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:

2019-08-27 Thread David H. Bailey
On 8/27/2019 9:28 AM, Robert Patterson wrote: Has anyone ever had to divide "Mrs." into two syllables for vocal underlay? Any suggestions? I've seen it "miss-us" -- * David H. Bailey dhbaile...@comcast.net http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com

[Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:

2019-08-27 Thread Robert Patterson
Has anyone ever had to divide "Mrs." into two syllables for vocal underlay? Any suggestions? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu