Re: [Finale] PDF export and placed graphics

2017-09-20 Thread Johannes Gebauer
I tried that, but it doesn't seem to make any difference, the only 
solution is still to position the placed graphic relating to page edge 
rather than margin (which seems to be the default).

Am 13.09.17 um 04:47 schrieb Christopher Smith:
> I had trouble exporting partial pages from any page after page 1. The margins 
> were not what I selected. The solution tech support gave me was to use 
> View>Looseleaf Style: Current Page Only. This was the only way I could export 
> partial pages. Let us know if this helps you.

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Re: [Finale] PDF export and placed graphics

2017-09-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Whatever the case, in my original mail I gave a workaround which works 
well, so I have no need for a PDF exporter.

In fact, PDF exporters are a hassle, because they export the whole page, 
I only need musical examples.


Am 12.09.17 um 20:49 schrieb Lee Actor:
> If Finale itself is the source of the bug which doesn't output placed
> graphics correctly, you're right -- a different pdf engine wouldn't make any
> difference.  However, the Finale pdf exporter has been seriously broken for
> a long time, tending to strew random characters across pages which have lots
> of tuplets (among other problems).  Makemusic verified this bug years ago,
> but apparently still hasn't gotten it fixed (the pdf exporter is 3rd party
> software, so they can't fix directly).  Additionally, the Finale built-in
> pdf export is very slow and produces humungous file sizes, up to 10x other
> print-to-pdf solutions; I recommend avoiding it if at all possible.  I've
> evaluated many of the print-to-pdf apps, and IMHO the best is Bullzip, which
> is fast, full-featured, produces very small file sizes, and is solid as a
> rock.  Plus it's free for individual use:
> http://bullzip.com/products/pdf/info.php.
> 
> -Lee
> 
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> 
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> 
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> Subject: Re: [Finale] PDF export and placed graphics
> 
> Am 12.09.17 um 18:22 schrieb Raymond Horton:
>> Try cutePDF, a free download. Graphics work just fine for me with it.
> In what way would that make any difference to me?
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Re: [Finale] PDF export and placed graphics

2017-09-12 Thread Christopher Smith
Hi Johannes,

I had trouble exporting partial pages from any page after page 1. The margins 
were not what I selected. The solution tech support gave me was to use 
View>Looseleaf Style: Current Page Only. This was the only way I could export 
partial pages. Let us know if this helps you.

Christopher


> On Tue Sep 12, at TuesdaySep 12 11:28 AM, Johannes Gebauer 
>  wrote:
> 
> Some time ago I found that exporting a selection to PDF would not 
> include placed graphics.
> 
> Well, today I found that it does, only it places them somewhere else on 
> the page, and there is a fix: Graphics need to be positions in relation 
> to the page margin and not the page edge.
> 
> I have a feeling that this is actually a very old bug which I probably 
> encountered years ago with graphic export. However, it seems to only 
> happen when exporting to PDF (and EPS) not to bitmap formats.
> 
> Oh well, I hope the next time I have to do this I will remember. At 
> least I can fix it in my thesis before it goes out to be printed for 
> good. Vector graphics do print much better.
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Re: [Finale] PDF export and placed graphics

2017-09-12 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Tue, September 12, 2017 2:49 pm, Lee Actor wrote:
> I've
> evaluated many of the print-to-pdf apps, and IMHO the best is Bullzip, which
> is fast, full-featured, produces very small file sizes, and is solid as a
> rock.  Plus it's free for individual use:
> http://bullzip.com/products/pdf/info.php.

I thoroughly agree. I've used probably a dozen PDF drivers by now, and this
has been rock solid and makes perfect (and 'tidy') documents from Finale.

Dennis


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Re: [Finale] PDF export and placed graphics

2017-09-12 Thread Lee Actor
If Finale itself is the source of the bug which doesn't output placed
graphics correctly, you're right -- a different pdf engine wouldn't make any
difference.  However, the Finale pdf exporter has been seriously broken for
a long time, tending to strew random characters across pages which have lots
of tuplets (among other problems).  Makemusic verified this bug years ago,
but apparently still hasn't gotten it fixed (the pdf exporter is 3rd party
software, so they can't fix directly).  Additionally, the Finale built-in
pdf export is very slow and produces humungous file sizes, up to 10x other
print-to-pdf solutions; I recommend avoiding it if at all possible.  I've
evaluated many of the print-to-pdf apps, and IMHO the best is Bullzip, which
is fast, full-featured, produces very small file sizes, and is solid as a
rock.  Plus it's free for individual use:
http://bullzip.com/products/pdf/info.php.

-Lee

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Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 10:59 AM
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Subject: Re: [Finale] PDF export and placed graphics

Am 12.09.17 um 18:22 schrieb Raymond Horton:
> Try cutePDF, a free download. Graphics work just fine for me with it.

In what way would that make any difference to me?
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Re: [Finale] PDF export and placed graphics

2017-09-12 Thread Raymond Horton
I apologize again, I missed an important part of your initial post, which
were the words "a selection".

On Sep 12, 2017 2:01 PM, "Johannes Gebauer" 
wrote:

> Am 12.09.17 um 18:32 schrieb Dr. Ben @ Ayotte Music:
> > I've used PDF995 for years, though I like the export shortcut ALT+F,T,P.
> > The export doesn't automatically embed all text fonts.
> >
>
> Again, I fail to see how this would help with the problem, which in fact
> is not really a problem any more, since there is a workaround.
>
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Re: [Finale] PDF export and placed graphics

2017-09-12 Thread Raymond Horton
It works just like a printer driver. I have used it for years, long before
finale  or Windows had its own PDF printer driver. I am sorry, are you on a
Mac?

On Sep 12, 2017 1:59 PM, "Johannes Gebauer" 
wrote:

Am 12.09.17 um 18:22 schrieb Raymond Horton:
> Try cutePDF, a free download. Graphics work just fine for me with it.

In what way would that make any difference to me?
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Re: [Finale] PDF export and placed graphics

2017-09-12 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Am 12.09.17 um 18:32 schrieb Dr. Ben @ Ayotte Music:
> I've used PDF995 for years, though I like the export shortcut ALT+F,T,P.
> The export doesn't automatically embed all text fonts.
> 

Again, I fail to see how this would help with the problem, which in fact 
is not really a problem any more, since there is a workaround.

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Re: [Finale] PDF export and placed graphics

2017-09-12 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Am 12.09.17 um 18:22 schrieb Raymond Horton:
> Try cutePDF, a free download. Graphics work just fine for me with it.

In what way would that make any difference to me?
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Re: [Finale] PDF export and placed graphics

2017-09-12 Thread Dr. Ben @ Ayotte Music
I've used PDF995 for years, though I like the export shortcut ALT+F,T,P.
The export doesn't automatically embed all text fonts.

Sincerely,
Benjamin Ayotte
www.ayottemusic.com


On Sep 12, 2017 12:22 PM, "Raymond Horton"  wrote:

> Try cutePDF, a free download. Graphics work just fine for me with it.
>
> On Sep 12, 2017 11:29 AM, "Johannes Gebauer" 
> wrote:
>
> > Some time ago I found that exporting a selection to PDF would not
> > include placed graphics.
> >
> > Well, today I found that it does, only it places them somewhere else on
> > the page, and there is a fix: Graphics need to be positions in relation
> > to the page margin and not the page edge.
> >
> > I have a feeling that this is actually a very old bug which I probably
> > encountered years ago with graphic export. However, it seems to only
> > happen when exporting to PDF (and EPS) not to bitmap formats.
> >
> > Oh well, I hope the next time I have to do this I will remember. At
> > least I can fix it in my thesis before it goes out to be printed for
> > good. Vector graphics do print much better.
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Re: [Finale] PDF export and placed graphics

2017-09-12 Thread Raymond Horton
Try cutePDF, a free download. Graphics work just fine for me with it.

On Sep 12, 2017 11:29 AM, "Johannes Gebauer" 
wrote:

> Some time ago I found that exporting a selection to PDF would not
> include placed graphics.
>
> Well, today I found that it does, only it places them somewhere else on
> the page, and there is a fix: Graphics need to be positions in relation
> to the page margin and not the page edge.
>
> I have a feeling that this is actually a very old bug which I probably
> encountered years ago with graphic export. However, it seems to only
> happen when exporting to PDF (and EPS) not to bitmap formats.
>
> Oh well, I hope the next time I have to do this I will remember. At
> least I can fix it in my thesis before it goes out to be printed for
> good. Vector graphics do print much better.
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[Finale] PDF export and placed graphics

2017-09-12 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Some time ago I found that exporting a selection to PDF would not 
include placed graphics.

Well, today I found that it does, only it places them somewhere else on 
the page, and there is a fix: Graphics need to be positions in relation 
to the page margin and not the page edge.

I have a feeling that this is actually a very old bug which I probably 
encountered years ago with graphic export. However, it seems to only 
happen when exporting to PDF (and EPS) not to bitmap formats.

Oh well, I hope the next time I have to do this I will remember. At 
least I can fix it in my thesis before it goes out to be printed for 
good. Vector graphics do print much better.
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