Re: [Finale] horn transposition question

2007-03-21 Thread Ole Buck
The fact that french horns (corno) was originally written one octave above in soprano clef, and in actual pitch in basso, explain the difference from bas and clef transposition. To calculate from notation in a transposed part to actual sound: find the interval in relation to C (below) and

Re: [Finale] horn transposition question

2007-03-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 20 mrt 2007, at 15:37, Martin Banner wrote: Also, if I have a horn in G written in bass clef, what concert pitch will actually sound if I write an A on fifth line (A right below middle C). that depends. In older notation it should have sound as D4 (D above middle C) In modern notation

Re: [Finale] horn transposition question

2007-03-21 Thread Hans Swinnen
I'm sorry! You're right of course. I should have read the question more carefully. Hans === On 21 mrt 2007, at 09:50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 20 mrt 2007, at 15:37, Martin Banner wrote: Also, if I have a horn in G written in bass clef, what concert pitch will actually sound if I write

Re: [Finale] horn transposition question

2007-03-21 Thread Ken Moore
Robert Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] A top-line bass clef A is possible on a natural horn only if the bass clef is old notation. In old notation bass clef it is the same note as the 2nd-space A in treble clef. For horn in G, this sounds as the E above middle C. [...] The question

Re: [Finale] horn transposition question

2007-03-21 Thread Robert Patterson
On 3/21/07, Ken Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A possible reason is that it is a 1st or 3rd horn part that shares a stave in the score with low note from 2nd or 4th. That is the primary reason I know of. It is important also to realize that old-notation bass clef is really a form of alto

Re: [Finale] horn transposition question

2007-03-20 Thread Hans Swinnen
On 20 mrt 2007, at 15:37, Martin Banner wrote: If I have a horn in G, and write a D (fourth line treble clef), will that sound as a concert A (second space treble clef)? Yes. Also, if I have a horn in G written in bass clef, what concert pitch will actually sound if I write an A on fifth

Re: [Finale] horn transposition question

2007-03-20 Thread Hans Swinnen
You're right. But that wasn't the question, was it? Yours, Hans === On 20 mrt 2007, at 18:39, Andrew Stiller wrote: On Mar 20, 2007, at 11:49 AM, Hans Swinnen wrote: On 20 mrt 2007, at 15:37, Martin Banner wrote: Also, if I have a horn in G written in bass clef, what concert pitch will

Re: [Finale] horn transposition question

2007-03-20 Thread Martin Banner
The part in question is horn in G in bass clef, but not modern. It is by an 18th Century Italian (Tuscany) composer. I should have stated the time frame in my original post. Martin On Mar 20, 2007, at 1:39 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote: On Mar 20, 2007, at 11:49 AM, Hans Swinnen wrote: On

Re: [Finale] horn transposition question

2007-03-20 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
The A written on the fifth line of the bass clef is a very unusual note to find in a part for natural horn (if that's what it is) Cheers, Lawrence lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] horn transposition question

2007-03-20 Thread John Howell
At 10:37 AM -0400 3/20/07, Martin Banner wrote: If I have a horn in G, and write a D (fourth line treble clef), will that sound as a concert A (second space treble clef)? Yes. Also, if I have a horn in G written in bass clef, what concert pitch will actually sound if I write an A on fifth

Re: [Finale] horn transposition question

2007-03-20 Thread Robert Patterson
Except that there are no worms in this case (an 18th cent composition). A top-line bass clef A is possible on a natural horn only if the bass clef is old notation. In old notation bass clef it is the same note as the 2nd-space A in treble clef. For horn in G, this sounds as the E above middle