[Finale] renegade staves i can't get rid of

2012-06-22 Thread SN jef chippewa
perhaps related to something i did when setting up the doc... there are 3 renegade staves that don't appear in the score manager anywhere but appear on one page at the top of the score. when i 2-click on one of them, the piccolo Staff Attributes pop up and then when i click on the instrument

Re: [Finale] renegade staves i can't get rid of

2012-06-22 Thread John Blane
Hi Jef - Is it possible you are viewing an old staff set? On Jun 22, 2012, at 11:40 AM, SN jef chippewa wrote: perhaps related to something i did when setting up the doc... there are 3 renegade staves that don't appear in the score manager anywhere but appear on one page at the top of

Re: [Finale] renegade staves i can't get rid of

2012-06-22 Thread SN jef chippewa
thanks, but nope, that was in score view. but in any case, even if i was, it still shouldn't appear, because it doesn't exists (yikes!) Is it possible you are viewing an old staff set? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] renegade staves i can't get rid of

2012-06-22 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Fri, June 22, 2012 1:43 pm, SN jef chippewa wrote: thanks, but nope, that was in score view. but in any case, even if i was, it still shouldn't appear, because it doesn't exists (yikes!) I had this happen recently (in FinWin 2011). The renegade staff was somehow married to another staff in

Re: [Finale] renegade staves i can't get rid of

2012-06-22 Thread SN jef chippewa
i seem to be able to select the entire system (all measures, all instruments), hide empty staves, then show empty staves and all *seems* right... but i haven't done this permanently on the file yet (waiting to hear from support). are you able to hide/show and have it disappear? I had this

Re: [Finale] renegade staves i can't get rid of

2012-06-22 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Fri, June 22, 2012 2:59 pm, SN jef chippewa wrote: i seem to be able to select the entire system (all measures, all instruments), hide empty staves, then show empty staves and all *seems* right... but i haven't done this permanently on the file yet (waiting to hear from support). are you

Re: [Finale] renegade staves i can't get rid of

2012-06-22 Thread Michael Mathew
chippewa shirl...@newmusicnotation.com To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] renegade staves i can't get rid of thanks, but nope, that was in score view.  but in any case, even if i was, it still shouldn't appear, because it doesn't exists (yikes

Re: [Finale] renegade staves i can't get rid of

2012-06-22 Thread SN jef chippewa
yes, the staves in question don't appear in the score manager. score manager looks totally clean. i can only assume they somehow left traces as i was setting up the score. and can only hope they don't cause problems later... Am I correct in assuming that you checked the score manager? That

Re: [Finale] renegade staves i can't get rid of

2012-06-22 Thread SN jef chippewa
i found some i can't even hide, even though i selected all measures in the system and cleared them. it does seem to be linked to the system in question: P2 and P4 look normal, P3 has 3 renegades; i moved the last measure of S3 up to the previous page, P2 and P4 sitll look fine, P3 (now

Re: [Finale] renegade staves i can't get rid of

2012-06-22 Thread SN jef chippewa
i think the solution was to select all (whole document), show empty staves, reset brackets, then click on a single renegade stave and select hide empty stave (should do it for only that system), then select a real staff and show empty. selecting a renegade and pulling up context menu for

Re: [Finale] renegade staves i can't get rid of

2012-06-22 Thread Jari Williamsson
On 2012-06-22 18:40, SN jef chippewa wrote: perhaps related to something i did when setting up the doc... there are 3 renegade staves that don't appear in the score manager anywhere but appear on one page at the top of the score. when i 2-click on one of them, the piccolo Staff Attributes

Re: [Finale] renegade staves i can't get rid of

2012-06-22 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Fri, June 22, 2012 4:29 pm, SN jef chippewa wrote: ah, dennis, try showing all, then reset groups / brackets (utilities menu) and hide again, does this work? i just managed to lose some renagades that were persistent. Everything's archived now, and I don't know where the renegade was. If I