Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Fonts
Michael, List protocol forbids attachements to emails, so there needs to be another way to do this. I'd think that Nick Carter would have something available on his NPC Imaging site, since he is selling the fonts. Meanwhile, I will send a pdf to your email, and you are welcome to visit here in SE Portland, if there are other things you'd like to see. Chuck On May 30, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Michael Mathew wrote: Chuck, Greetings! Is it possible you could send the pdf to the group? I have wanted to see the font in actual use and have some trouble coming up with the necessary money to purchase. Actually seeing the fonts in action might help me settle the matter! Thanks, Michael mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com http://www.musicengravers.com/cgi-bin/engravers.pl http://oregonmts.com/mathew/ _ Chuck Israels 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland, OR 97202-7097 land line: (503) 954-2107 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraels.com www.chuckisraelsjazz.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Fonts
Thanks, Chuck, they came through great and I like them as an alternative to the jazz font! Michael mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com http://www.musicengravers.com/cgi-bin/engravers.pl http://oregonmts.com/mathew/ From: Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Fonts Michael, List protocol forbids attachements to emails, so there needs to be another way to do this. I'd think that Nick Carter would have something available on his NPC Imaging site, since he is selling the fonts. Meanwhile, I will send a pdf to your email, and you are welcome to visit here in SE Portland, if there are other things you'd like to see. Chuck On May 30, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Michael Mathew wrote: Chuck, Greetings! Is it possible you could send the pdf to the group? I have wanted to see the font in actual use and have some trouble coming up with the necessary money to purchase. Actually seeing the fonts in action might help me settle the matter! Thanks, Michael mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com http://www.musicengravers.com/cgi-bin/engravers.pl http://oregonmts.com/mathew/ _ Chuck Israels 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland, OR 97202-7097 land line: (503) 954-2107 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraels.com www.chuckisraelsjazz.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Fonts
Hi Chuck, Thanks, I'll look at these. Do you use them with a generally handwritten look or with Maestro? A PDF would be great! Thanks! Steve P. On 30 May 2012, at 15:09, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Steve, Look at Bill Duncan's chord fonts available from Nick Carter at NPC Imaging. If you want to see samples, I can send you a pdf. Chuck On May 30, 2012, at 4:05 AM, Steve Parker wrote: Hi all! I'm having another bout of trying to sort everything that niggles me in Finale... ;-) Any suggestions for chord symbol fonts/settings? I'm looking for something clear to use with Maestro but with a fairly 'thick' house style (staff lines 0.01). Also, I always use the triangle for a generic maj7 chord when handwriting but haven't got around to sorting this for use with Maestro. Any suggestions here? Thanks! Steve Parker ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland, OR 97202-7097 land line: (503) 954-2107 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraels.com www.chuckisraelsjazz.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Fonts
Bills stuff is all done with maestro, at least that was the intention. His fonts look great with maestro. I use the chord , over sized time signatures and articulations fonts in all my works Sent from my iSomething -- On May 30, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Steve Parker st...@pinkrat.co.uk wrote: Hi Chuck, Thanks, I'll look at these. Do you use them with a generally handwritten look or with Maestro? A PDF would be great! Thanks! Steve P. On 30 May 2012, at 15:09, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Steve, Look at Bill Duncan's chord fonts available from Nick Carter at NPC Imaging. If you want to see samples, I can send you a pdf. Chuck On May 30, 2012, at 4:05 AM, Steve Parker wrote: Hi all! I'm having another bout of trying to sort everything that niggles me in Finale... ;-) Any suggestions for chord symbol fonts/settings? I'm looking for something clear to use with Maestro but with a fairly 'thick' house style (staff lines 0.01). Also, I always use the triangle for a generic maj7 chord when handwriting but haven't got around to sorting this for use with Maestro. Any suggestions here? Thanks! Steve Parker ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland, OR 97202-7097 land line: (503) 954-2107 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraels.com www.chuckisraelsjazz.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Fonts
Yes, it is designed to look good with Maestro (though I imagine it would work well with other roughly similar fonts). Bill created the articulation font symbols to include things like jazz falloffs that would look appropriate with Maestro. He spent the better part of a day in our home (when we were living in Bellingham) visiting with Greg Hamilton (top notch Vancouver music prep guy, friend and former student) and me exploring what we thought we might need and then went home and created it. I had been using Jazz font falloffs etc. with Maestro notation - resulting in a clunky looking combination, told Bill about it, and he volunteered to help. When morose moods threaten to overcome me, I try to remember some of the extraordinary lucky things that have happened - like Greg's friendship and Bill's extraordinary custom efforts on our behalf. Those things don't pay bills, but you can take them to your life bank. Chuck On May 30, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Bills stuff is all done with maestro, at least that was the intention. His fonts look great with maestro. I use the chord , over sized time signatures and articulations fonts in all my works Sent from my iSomething -- On May 30, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Steve Parker st...@pinkrat.co.uk wrote: Hi Chuck, Thanks, I'll look at these. Do you use them with a generally handwritten look or with Maestro? A PDF would be great! Thanks! Steve P. On 30 May 2012, at 15:09, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Steve, Look at Bill Duncan's chord fonts available from Nick Carter at NPC Imaging. If you want to see samples, I can send you a pdf. Chuck On May 30, 2012, at 4:05 AM, Steve Parker wrote: Hi all! I'm having another bout of trying to sort everything that niggles me in Finale... ;-) Any suggestions for chord symbol fonts/settings? I'm looking for something clear to use with Maestro but with a fairly 'thick' house style (staff lines 0.01). Also, I always use the triangle for a generic maj7 chord when handwriting but haven't got around to sorting this for use with Maestro. Any suggestions here? Thanks! Steve Parker ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland, OR 97202-7097 land line: (503) 954-2107 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraels.com www.chuckisraelsjazz.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland, OR 97202-7097 land line: (503) 954-2107 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraels.com www.chuckisraelsjazz.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Fonts
Thanks Eric and Chuck! They look great - absolutely perfect answer to what I felt was lacking in my current copying. Steve P. On 30 May 2012, at 21:06, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Yes, it is designed to look good with Maestro (though I imagine it would work well with other roughly similar fonts). Bill created the articulation font symbols to include things like jazz falloffs that would look appropriate with Maestro. He spent the better part of a day in our home (when we were living in Bellingham) visiting with Greg Hamilton (top notch Vancouver music prep guy, friend and former student) and me exploring what we thought we might need and then went home and created it. I had been using Jazz font falloffs etc. with Maestro notation - resulting in a clunky looking combination, told Bill about it, and he volunteered to help. When morose moods threaten to overcome me, I try to remember some of the extraordinary lucky things that have happened - like Greg's friendship and Bill's extraordinary custom efforts on our behalf. Those things don't pay bills, but you can take them to your life bank. Chuck On May 30, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Bills stuff is all done with maestro, at least that was the intention. His fonts look great with maestro. I use the chord , over sized time signatures and articulations fonts in all my works Sent from my iSomething -- On May 30, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Steve Parker st...@pinkrat.co.uk wrote: Hi Chuck, Thanks, I'll look at these. Do you use them with a generally handwritten look or with Maestro? A PDF would be great! Thanks! Steve P. On 30 May 2012, at 15:09, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Steve, Look at Bill Duncan's chord fonts available from Nick Carter at NPC Imaging. If you want to see samples, I can send you a pdf. Chuck On May 30, 2012, at 4:05 AM, Steve Parker wrote: Hi all! I'm having another bout of trying to sort everything that niggles me in Finale... ;-) Any suggestions for chord symbol fonts/settings? I'm looking for something clear to use with Maestro but with a fairly 'thick' house style (staff lines 0.01). Also, I always use the triangle for a generic maj7 chord when handwriting but haven't got around to sorting this for use with Maestro. Any suggestions here? Thanks! Steve Parker ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland, OR 97202-7097 land line: (503) 954-2107 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraels.com www.chuckisraelsjazz.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland, OR 97202-7097 land line: (503) 954-2107 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraels.com www.chuckisraelsjazz.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Fonts
Excellent. Nice to be able to be of help. Chuck On May 30, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Steve Parker wrote: Thanks Eric and Chuck! They look great - absolutely perfect answer to what I felt was lacking in my current copying. Steve P. On 30 May 2012, at 21:06, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Yes, it is designed to look good with Maestro (though I imagine it would work well with other roughly similar fonts). Bill created the articulation font symbols to include things like jazz falloffs that would look appropriate with Maestro. He spent the better part of a day in our home (when we were living in Bellingham) visiting with Greg Hamilton (top notch Vancouver music prep guy, friend and former student) and me exploring what we thought we might need and then went home and created it. I had been using Jazz font falloffs etc. with Maestro notation - resulting in a clunky looking combination, told Bill about it, and he volunteered to help. When morose moods threaten to overcome me, I try to remember some of the extraordinary lucky things that have happened - like Greg's friendship and Bill's extraordinary custom efforts on our behalf. Those things don't pay bills, but you can take them to your life bank. Chuck On May 30, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Bills stuff is all done with maestro, at least that was the intention. His fonts look great with maestro. I use the chord , over sized time signatures and articulations fonts in all my works Sent from my iSomething -- On May 30, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Steve Parker st...@pinkrat.co.uk wrote: Hi Chuck, Thanks, I'll look at these. Do you use them with a generally handwritten look or with Maestro? A PDF would be great! Thanks! Steve P. On 30 May 2012, at 15:09, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Steve, Look at Bill Duncan's chord fonts available from Nick Carter at NPC Imaging. If you want to see samples, I can send you a pdf. Chuck On May 30, 2012, at 4:05 AM, Steve Parker wrote: Hi all! I'm having another bout of trying to sort everything that niggles me in Finale... ;-) Any suggestions for chord symbol fonts/settings? I'm looking for something clear to use with Maestro but with a fairly 'thick' house style (staff lines 0.01). Also, I always use the triangle for a generic maj7 chord when handwriting but haven't got around to sorting this for use with Maestro. Any suggestions here? Thanks! Steve Parker ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland, OR 97202-7097 land line: (503) 954-2107 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraels.com www.chuckisraelsjazz.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland, OR 97202-7097 land line: (503) 954-2107 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraels.com www.chuckisraelsjazz.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland, OR 97202-7097 land line: (503) 954-2107 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraels.com www.chuckisraelsjazz.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Fonts
Bobs stuff is really great. Sent from my iSomething -- Eric Dannewitz Musician/Polymath/Evil Genius http://www.ericdannewitz.com On May 30, 2012, at 4:08 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Excellent. Nice to be able to be of help. Chuck On May 30, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Steve Parker wrote: Thanks Eric and Chuck! They look great - absolutely perfect answer to what I felt was lacking in my current copying. Steve P. On 30 May 2012, at 21:06, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Yes, it is designed to look good with Maestro (though I imagine it would work well with other roughly similar fonts). Bill created the articulation font symbols to include things like jazz falloffs that would look appropriate with Maestro. He spent the better part of a day in our home (when we were living in Bellingham) visiting with Greg Hamilton (top notch Vancouver music prep guy, friend and former student) and me exploring what we thought we might need and then went home and created it. I had been using Jazz font falloffs etc. with Maestro notation - resulting in a clunky looking combination, told Bill about it, and he volunteered to help. When morose moods threaten to overcome me, I try to remember some of the extraordinary lucky things that have happened - like Greg's friendship and Bill's extraordinary custom efforts on our behalf. Those things don't pay bills, but you can take them to your life bank. Chuck On May 30, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Bills stuff is all done with maestro, at least that was the intention. His fonts look great with maestro. I use the chord , over sized time signatures and articulations fonts in all my works Sent from my iSomething -- On May 30, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Steve Parker st...@pinkrat.co.uk wrote: Hi Chuck, Thanks, I'll look at these. Do you use them with a generally handwritten look or with Maestro? A PDF would be great! Thanks! Steve P. On 30 May 2012, at 15:09, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Steve, Look at Bill Duncan's chord fonts available from Nick Carter at NPC Imaging. If you want to see samples, I can send you a pdf. Chuck On May 30, 2012, at 4:05 AM, Steve Parker wrote: Hi all! I'm having another bout of trying to sort everything that niggles me in Finale... ;-) Any suggestions for chord symbol fonts/settings? I'm looking for something clear to use with Maestro but with a fairly 'thick' house style (staff lines 0.01). Also, I always use the triangle for a generic maj7 chord when handwriting but haven't got around to sorting this for use with Maestro. Any suggestions here? Thanks! Steve Parker ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland, OR 97202-7097 land line: (503) 954-2107 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraels.com www.chuckisraelsjazz.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland, OR 97202-7097 land line: (503) 954-2107 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraels.com www.chuckisraelsjazz.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland, OR 97202-7097 land line: (503) 954-2107 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraels.com www.chuckisraelsjazz.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Fonts
Chuck, Greetings! Is it possible you could send the pdf to the group? I have wanted to see the font in actual use and have some trouble coming up with the necessary money to purchase. Actually seeing the fonts in action might help me settle the matter! Thanks, Michael mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com http://www.musicengravers.com/cgi-bin/engravers.pl http://oregonmts.com/mathew/ From: Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Fonts Excellent. Nice to be able to be of help. Chuck On May 30, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Steve Parker wrote: Thanks Eric and Chuck! They look great - absolutely perfect answer to what I felt was lacking in my current copying. Steve P. On 30 May 2012, at 21:06, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Yes, it is designed to look good with Maestro (though I imagine it would work well with other roughly similar fonts). Bill created the articulation font symbols to include things like jazz falloffs that would look appropriate with Maestro. He spent the better part of a day in our home (when we were living in Bellingham) visiting with Greg Hamilton (top notch Vancouver music prep guy, friend and former student) and me exploring what we thought we might need and then went home and created it. I had been using Jazz font falloffs etc. with Maestro notation - resulting in a clunky looking combination, told Bill about it, and he volunteered to help. When morose moods threaten to overcome me, I try to remember some of the extraordinary lucky things that have happened - like Greg's friendship and Bill's extraordinary custom efforts on our behalf. Those things don't pay bills, but you can take them to your life bank. Chuck On May 30, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Bills stuff is all done with maestro, at least that was the intention. His fonts look great with maestro. I use the chord , over sized time signatures and articulations fonts in all my works Sent from my iSomething -- On May 30, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Steve Parker st...@pinkrat.co.uk wrote: Hi Chuck, Thanks, I'll look at these. Do you use them with a generally handwritten look or with Maestro? A PDF would be great! Thanks! Steve P. On 30 May 2012, at 15:09, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Steve, Look at Bill Duncan's chord fonts available from Nick Carter at NPC Imaging. If you want to see samples, I can send you a pdf. Chuck On May 30, 2012, at 4:05 AM, Steve Parker wrote: Hi all! I'm having another bout of trying to sort everything that niggles me in Finale... ;-) Any suggestions for chord symbol fonts/settings? I'm looking for something clear to use with Maestro but with a fairly 'thick' house style (staff lines 0.01). Also, I always use the triangle for a generic maj7 chord when handwriting but haven't got around to sorting this for use with Maestro. Any suggestions here? Thanks! Steve Parker ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland, OR 97202-7097 land line: (503) 954-2107 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraels.com www.chuckisraelsjazz.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland, OR 97202-7097 land line: (503) 954-2107 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraels.com www.chuckisraelsjazz.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland, OR 97202-7097 land line: (503) 954-2107 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraels.com www.chuckisraelsjazz.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Fonts
On 5/30/2012 4:05 AM, Steve Parker wrote: Hi all! I'm having another bout of trying to sort everything that niggles me in Finale... ;-) Any suggestions for chord symbol fonts/settings? I'm looking for something clear to use with Maestro but with a fairly 'thick' house style (staff lines 0.01). Also, I always use the triangle for a generic maj7 chord when handwriting but haven't got around to sorting this for use with Maestro. Any suggestions here? Thanks! Steve Parker I have long been using Technical Italic Bold 18 for chords (18 for the Base, 16 for the alterations, but for complex ones I use 14 - like Eb-7(#9b5) or it gets too big and makes the page look crowded). It works for me. Gotta get some images of that posted somewhere... cd -- http://projectselene.com === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18500) http://www.pctools.com/ === ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord symbol fonts
Thanks Eric. I'll try that. George - Original Message - From: Eric Dannewitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Chord symbol fonts Easy way to do this would be to save your Chords in a Library file, load them into your Jazz Font Default file. When you start a new project, you'll have all your custom chords in there. You can also use the library in existing documents. Load the old document, load the chords, go to the chord too, click some where, go to advanced, down where suffix is go to select, then start deleting the ones you want to replace, and Finale will prompt you to select a replacement, and you can select your new chord symbol there, and it will replace all symbols in the document with the new symbol. I did this a lot when I purchased Bill Duncan's Productivity package, and decided to use his excellent chords in place of the hodge podge assortment I was using. George Ports wrote: Christopher Thanks so much for your outstanding help with my Chord Suffix problem. GAWD!!! What a procedure it is to solve something that you'd think would be right to begin with unless it's supposed to be that way and is up to me to change to what I want. Your method was successful for me. Am wondering if this will fix it with the program (finale) overall or just the one document that was edited. Anyway...Thanks again. George ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord symbol fonts
Very true. I got asked last night about the rehearsal font on a chart I brought in. I was like umwellit's complicated, I'll let you know about the status. Which is what by the way? Nick and Vince arewhom? It would be absolutely great to see MakeMusic buy up Bill's stuff and include it in future versions of Finalebut perhaps that is a pipe dream. Chuck Israels wrote: Indeed, this has been a bugaboo for years, and only constant carping and complaining will get MM's attention. The available defense for advanced jazz chord symbol users is to spend time (a lot of time, unfortunately) creating the chord suffixes you like, saving them as a library and then loading them into new documents with empty chord libraries. I don't know the status of the Bill Duncan material, but those of us who were lucky enough to have bought his chord font are ahead of the game in this department. I hope that Nick and Vince are still pursuing Bill's sister for distribution access to the material. Until then, much as we'd like to make it generally available, there are legal and ethical obstacles to doing so. Of course, you still have to go through Finale's chord suffix editor to change anything you don't like in Bill's suffixes but, for me, the need to do that is rare. Chuck ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Chord symbol fonts
I sure like the idea of MakeMusic including Bill's stuff. Better in the long run for the family, I would think. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Dannewitz Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 3:29 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Chord symbol fonts Very true. I got asked last night about the rehearsal font on a chart I brought in. I was like umwellit's complicated, I'll let you know about the status. Which is what by the way? Nick and Vince arewhom? It would be absolutely great to see MakeMusic buy up Bill's stuff and include it in future versions of Finalebut perhaps that is a pipe dream. Chuck Israels wrote: Indeed, this has been a bugaboo for years, and only constant carping and complaining will get MM's attention. The available defense for advanced jazz chord symbol users is to spend time (a lot of time, unfortunately) creating the chord suffixes you like, saving them as a library and then loading them into new documents with empty chord libraries. I don't know the status of the Bill Duncan material, but those of us who were lucky enough to have bought his chord font are ahead of the game in this department. I hope that Nick and Vince are still pursuing Bill's sister for distribution access to the material. Until then, much as we'd like to make it generally available, there are legal and ethical obstacles to doing so. Of course, you still have to go through Finale's chord suffix editor to change anything you don't like in Bill's suffixes but, for me, the need to do that is rare. Chuck ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/748 - Release Date: 4/5/2007 3:33 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/748 - Release Date: 4/5/2007 3:33 PM ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord symbol fonts
On Apr 6, 2007, at 12:28 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Very true. I got asked last night about the rehearsal font on a chart I brought in. I was like umwellit's complicated, I'll let you know about the status. Which is what by the way? Nick and Vince arewhom? Nick Carter and Vince Leonard, both of whom contacted me for help in communicating with Bill's sister, in order to secure rights to the material. I have met Vince (He is the coauthor of a good book on mastering Finale - now several years old but still useful.) and had email communication with Nick (NC publications or something like that - forget exactly, but he sells a bunch of related stuff and seems like a another good person to do this.) but, up until now, neither of them has made any headway. Chuck It would be absolutely great to see MakeMusic buy up Bill's stuff and include it in future versions of Finalebut perhaps that is a pipe dream. Chuck Israels wrote: Indeed, this has been a bugaboo for years, and only constant carping and complaining will get MM's attention. The available defense for advanced jazz chord symbol users is to spend time (a lot of time, unfortunately) creating the chord suffixes you like, saving them as a library and then loading them into new documents with empty chord libraries. I don't know the status of the Bill Duncan material, but those of us who were lucky enough to have bought his chord font are ahead of the game in this department. I hope that Nick and Vince are still pursuing Bill's sister for distribution access to the material. Until then, much as we'd like to make it generally available, there are legal and ethical obstacles to doing so. Of course, you still have to go through Finale's chord suffix editor to change anything you don't like in Bill's suffixes but, for me, the need to do that is rare. Chuck ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 fax (360) 676-6055 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord symbol fonts
Christopher Thanks so much for your outstanding help with my Chord Suffix problem. GAWD!!! What a procedure it is to solve something that you'd think would be right to begin with unless it's supposed to be that way and is up to me to change to what I want. Your method was successful for me. Am wondering if this will fix it with the program (finale) overall or just the one document that was edited. Anyway...Thanks again. George - Original Message - From: Christopher Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 8:24 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] Chord symbol fonts On 5-Apr-07, at 9:56 AM, George Ports wrote: How can I set the suffix fonts in chord symbols to show a flat to look like b instead of b? Is there an easy way to do the same when describing a note such as: this note is a b5? I'm using Times new roman for the text (in general). Is there a way to change all that I've done so farglobally? Suffixes (suffices?) are created individually (though all instances of say, m7(b5) will probably be the same suffix) so you have to edit the suffixes in the Chord Suffix editor. Chord Tool Chord MenuManual Input, double click on a chord symbol's handle. Click Show Advanced, then down under Definition click Suffix - Edit. Each character is edited individually, so step through by hitting Next until you get to the b. Change it to 5, hit Number and Prefix with Flat. Hit Next again and change the 5 to the right parenthesis. Hit Next again and delete the former right parenthesis. Strangely, you can't delete the b and then edit the 5 to include the flat, as once you delete a character strange things happen to the next characters. Alter the positioning as you wish by dragging the tiny little handle in the tiny little box, curse loudly, write an abusive email to MakeMusic about how complex this whole procedure is, and OK your way back to the score. All the m7(b5) chords in the score will now contain the edit. Repeat for the next suffix, including the cursing and emails. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord symbol fonts
Easy way to do this would be to save your Chords in a Library file, load them into your Jazz Font Default file. When you start a new project, you'll have all your custom chords in there. You can also use the library in existing documents. Load the old document, load the chords, go to the chord too, click some where, go to advanced, down where suffix is go to select, then start deleting the ones you want to replace, and Finale will prompt you to select a replacement, and you can select your new chord symbol there, and it will replace all symbols in the document with the new symbol. I did this a lot when I purchased Bill Duncan's Productivity package, and decided to use his excellent chords in place of the hodge podge assortment I was using. George Ports wrote: Christopher Thanks so much for your outstanding help with my Chord Suffix problem. GAWD!!! What a procedure it is to solve something that you'd think would be right to begin with unless it's supposed to be that way and is up to me to change to what I want. Your method was successful for me. Am wondering if this will fix it with the program (finale) overall or just the one document that was edited. Anyway...Thanks again. George ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord symbol fonts
On 5-Apr-07, at 9:56 AM, George Ports wrote: How can I set the suffix fonts in chord symbols to show a flat to look like b instead of b? Is there an easy way to do the same when describing a note such as: this note is a b5? I'm using Times new roman for the text (in general). Is there a way to change all that I've done so farglobally? Suffixes (suffices?) are created individually (though all instances of say, m7(b5) will probably be the same suffix) so you have to edit the suffixes in the Chord Suffix editor. Chord Tool Chord MenuManual Input, double click on a chord symbol's handle. Click Show Advanced, then down under Definition click Suffix - Edit. Each character is edited individually, so step through by hitting Next until you get to the b. Change it to 5, hit Number and Prefix with Flat. Hit Next again and change the 5 to the right parenthesis. Hit Next again and delete the former right parenthesis. Strangely, you can't delete the b and then edit the 5 to include the flat, as once you delete a character strange things happen to the next characters. Alter the positioning as you wish by dragging the tiny little handle in the tiny little box, curse loudly, write an abusive email to MakeMusic about how complex this whole procedure is, and OK your way back to the score. All the m7(b5) chords in the score will now contain the edit. Repeat for the next suffix, including the cursing and emails. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord symbol fonts
Why isn't there a direct link to the Chord Suffix editor? Mike Greensill www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord symbol fonts
On 5-Apr-07, at 11:39 AM, Mike Greensill wrote: Why isn't there a direct link to the Chord Suffix editor? Just what I've been asking since about Finale 97. Especially when you get the message Could not find the suffix. Do you want to create it? and then you DON'T get the Chord Suffix selection dialogue box with the Delete, Edit, Create, etc. buttons where you could copy and edit an existing one. Also if you are typing into score and you hit F: 0 to choose a suffix, but don't find it, the Edit, Delete, Copy, Create, etc. buttons are NOT present in that dialogue box, even though it has the same name as the dialogue box that DOES have those buttons! The Chord Suffix Editor is a fussy, hard-to-use mess, and the only reason it hasn't been touched is that only advanced jazz musicians need anything other than the basic suffixes that are provided, and we are a minority. I sent in a long (LONG!) list of complaints about this tool to the friendly folks at MakeMusic a couple of years ago, but haven't heard anything, nor seen anything different since then. Please complain about this (as well as the horrifying bug where chord symbols don't transpose when Chromatic (no key signature) transposition is selected) in great detail, because this is the only way they will pay attention. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord symbol fonts
Indeed, this has been a bugaboo for years, and only constant carping and complaining will get MM's attention. The available defense for advanced jazz chord symbol users is to spend time (a lot of time, unfortunately) creating the chord suffixes you like, saving them as a library and then loading them into new documents with empty chord libraries. I don't know the status of the Bill Duncan material, but those of us who were lucky enough to have bought his chord font are ahead of the game in this department. I hope that Nick and Vince are still pursuing Bill's sister for distribution access to the material. Until then, much as we'd like to make it generally available, there are legal and ethical obstacles to doing so. Of course, you still have to go through Finale's chord suffix editor to change anything you don't like in Bill's suffixes but, for me, the need to do that is rare. Chuck On Apr 5, 2007, at 9:50 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: On 5-Apr-07, at 11:39 AM, Mike Greensill wrote: Why isn't there a direct link to the Chord Suffix editor? Just what I've been asking since about Finale 97. Especially when you get the message Could not find the suffix. Do you want to create it? and then you DON'T get the Chord Suffix selection dialogue box with the Delete, Edit, Create, etc. buttons where you could copy and edit an existing one. Also if you are typing into score and you hit F:0 to choose a suffix, but don't find it, the Edit, Delete, Copy, Create, etc. buttons are NOT present in that dialogue box, even though it has the same name as the dialogue box that DOES have those buttons! The Chord Suffix Editor is a fussy, hard-to-use mess, and the only reason it hasn't been touched is that only advanced jazz musicians need anything other than the basic suffixes that are provided, and we are a minority. I sent in a long (LONG!) list of complaints about this tool to the friendly folks at MakeMusic a couple of years ago, but haven't heard anything, nor seen anything different since then. Please complain about this (as well as the horrifying bug where chord symbols don't transpose when Chromatic (no key signature) transposition is selected) in great detail, because this is the only way they will pay attention. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 fax (360) 676-6055 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
