Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?[Finale]_Hey!_What's _wrong_with_Creston's_12/12???=

2005-07-09 Thread Gerald Berg
Yes, Ken!  Someone else corrected me so it must be true  -- I was 
wrong!  Unfortunately the email was deleted so cannot back check to see 
what I missed.


I figure...

Nonetheless there is now a 5/12 within that 5/8 of this larger 12/8 
(that you derived from the original metronomic 1/3 slower 4/4) that 
remains 1/3 shorter  and is subsequently 5/18ths of the original 4/4 
but winds up 15/48th of your newly established 12/8. -i.e. an inner 
nested triplet and 2/3 within this metronomically accelerated 5/8.  Had 
it been in 12/12 to 5/12 this would  appear as  (me logically following 
my own argument)- 5/18.  In other words all you've done is postpone the 
inevitable complication.


So -

Your version:

q=40
4/4
q=qdot
5/8
q=qdot
5/8
q=40 (VERY shorthand)
4/4

Maxima longa!


My version:

q=40
4/4
5/12
5/18
4/4

Longa maxima!

Vis a vis all else- in total -- I too prefer experience over 
rationality with my music.


But this was fun!

Jerry


On 9-Jul-05, at 5:20 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Gerald Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote



But of course this 5/8 is 1/3 longer than the required 5/12.  But hey,
who's counting!


Please reread my previous paragraph.  The 5/8 (5/Q) relates correctly 
to

the duplets (or dotted eighths) in the 12/8 (4/Q. or 8/E.).

Incidentally, this Brit has been happy with whole notes, halves,
quarters etc. for some decades, except when looking for a translation
of  maxima and longa.

--
K C Moore
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Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?[Finale]_Hey!_What's _wrong_with_Creston's_12/12??=

2005-07-08 Thread Gerald Berg


On 8-Jul-05, at 5:38 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


But then later, you are playing some triplets which work out 
perfectly,

but you ONLY NEED FIVE OF THEM, not six.


... so you mark 5/8: no big deal.  Of course, Ferneyhough has more
complicated relationships than this to prescribe.




But of course this 5/8 is 1/3 longer than the required 5/12.  But hey, 
who's counting!



Jerry


Gerald Berg

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