Re: [Finale] Vertical Text

[Ryan Beard]

Yes I know I can do that. But I have linked parts and adding an invisible first 
measure creates too many other problems to overcome. 

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> On Oct 7, 2015, at 1:10 PM, Barbara Touburg  wrote:
> 
>> On 7-10-2015 21:48, Ryan wrote:
>> The text will appear on a cover page. Custom Smart Shapes are required to
>> be attached to a staff. There is no music on the page, so there is nothing
>> to attach the shape.
> 
> Not necessarily so.
> Insert a measure before the first measure. Insert the title page before 
> the first page. Move the inserted first measure to the title page 
> (insert a system break and a page break).
> Change the first inserted measure to invisible using a staff style 
> (check: force hide staff: cutaway).
> Attach your smart shape. It will show. I've just checked it and it works.
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Re: [Finale] Vertical Text

[Barbara Touburg]

On 7-10-2015 21:48, Ryan wrote:
> The text will appear on a cover page. Custom Smart Shapes are required to
> be attached to a staff. There is no music on the page, so there is nothing
> to attach the shape.

Not necessarily so.
Insert a measure before the first measure. Insert the title page before 
the first page. Move the inserted first measure to the title page 
(insert a system break and a page break).
Change the first inserted measure to invisible using a staff style 
(check: force hide staff: cutaway).
Attach your smart shape. It will show. I've just checked it and it works.
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Re: [Finale] Vertical Text

[Bill Baker]

Pardon me, but what about using Microsoft Word, or any other word
processing program for this?  If the title page has no music on it,
that's how I would do it, rather than trying to force Finale to do
something it wasn't designed to do.  The right tool for the right job,
and all.  As long as it looks good when it prints out.

On Wed, 7 Oct 2015 14:10:06, Ryan Beard  wrote:
>
>
> Yes I know I can do that. But I have linked parts and adding an invisible 
> first measure creates too many other problems to overcome. 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> > On Oct 7, 2015, at 1:10 PM, Barbara Touburg  wrote:
>> > 
>>> >> On 7-10-2015 21:48, Ryan wrote:
>>> >> The text will appear on a cover page. Custom Smart Shapes are required to
>>> >> be attached to a staff. There is no music on the page, so there is 
>>> >> nothing
>>> >> to attach the shape.
>> > 
>> > Not necessarily so.
>> > Insert a measure before the first measure. Insert the title page before 
>> > the first page. Move the inserted first measure to the title page 
>> > (insert a system break and a page break).
>> > Change the first inserted measure to invisible using a staff style 
>> > (check: force hide staff: cutaway).
>> > Attach your smart shape. It will show. I've just checked it and it works.
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Re: [Finale] Vertical Text

[Ryan]

Thanks. I'll check out those links.
The text will appear on a cover page. Custom Smart Shapes are required to
be attached to a staff. There is no music on the page, so there is nothing
to attach the shape.

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Jan Angermüller 
wrote:

> Have you searched for sideways/vertical fonts ? There are quite some
> fonts available:
> https://www.google.de/search?q=sideways+font=lnms=isch=X
> https://www.google.de/search?q=vertical+font=lnms=isch=X
>
> There is also a rotated text tutorial for Finale with custom smart shapes:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bzYTkaR_48#t=3m09s
>
> More suggestions and vertical font descriptions:
> http://forum.makemusic.com/default.aspx?f=6=2=278511
>
> Am 07.10.2015 um 20:43 schrieb Ryan:
> > Berlin is nice, but I also need to rotate the text in the opposite
> > direction.
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Jan Angermüller 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> How about using a vertical text font like "Berlin" ?
> >> See http://www.musegraph.com/fontinfo.html
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Am 07.10.2015 um 20:18 schrieb Ryan:
> >>> Fair point. I do indeed want rotated text, both 90° and -90°.
> >>> Thanks for helping me clarify.
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Robert Patterson <
> >>> rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  When you say vertical text, to me that conjures:
> 
>  v
>  e
>  r
>  t
>  i
>  c
>  a
>  l
> 
>  That is easily accomplished with page text. I think you are asking for
>  rotated text.
> 
> 
>  On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Ryan  wrote:
> 
> > Thanks. I wish they would make the text tool a little more powerful.
> > Vertical text is very common in scores. It would be nice if there
> were
> >> an
> > easy way to achieve desired results.
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Robert Patterson <
> > rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote:
> >
> >> You could export a graphic either out of Finale or other program and
>  then
> >> place it on the page. Unfortunately there are numerous buggy hurdles
>  with
> >> this approach, but it can be done.
> >>
> >> For vector graphics you must use EPS. I so wish Finale supported
> > importing
> >> PDF as a graphic. There really is no excuse that they don't. Shy of
>  using
> >> EPS (which is buggy) you can export a TIFF. (FWIW: I always bite the
> > bullet
> >> and use EPS.)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Ryan  wrote:
> >>
> >>> It's on a title page, and there are linked parts involved. I'd
> rather
> > not
> >>> put an invisible bar of music on that page.
> >>>
> >>> Back to the drawing board.
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 7:39 AM, S Jones 
> > wrote:
>  What about using custom lines like a glissando line using the word
> > you
> >>> want
>  with a blank character in place of the wavy line?
>  On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:35 Robert Patterson <
> >>> rob...@robertgpatterson.com
>  wrote:
> 
> > If all you need is vertically oriented text without rotation of
>  the
> > letters, you can use the standard frame options on a page title
>  to
> > do
> >>> it.
> > If you need the letters to rotate, the only solution I know is a
> >> custom
> > shape. Perhaps you could place an invisible bar of music on your
> >> title
> > page. Ugly, but it will work.
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Ryan 
>  wrote:
> >> What's the best way to get vertical text on a page? I've
>  created
> >> SmartShapes before to do this, but this is a title page and
>  there
> >> is
> >>> no
> >> music nearby on which to attach the shape.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Ryan
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Re: [Finale] Vertical Text

[S Jones]

What about using custom lines like a glissando line using the word you want
with a blank character in place of the wavy line?
On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:35 Robert Patterson 
wrote:

> If all you need is vertically oriented text without rotation of the
> letters, you can use the standard frame options on a page title to do it.
> If you need the letters to rotate, the only solution I know is a custom
> shape. Perhaps you could place an invisible bar of music on your title
> page. Ugly, but it will work.
>
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Ryan  wrote:
>
> > What's the best way to get vertical text on a page? I've created
> > SmartShapes before to do this, but this is a title page and there is no
> > music nearby on which to attach the shape.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Ryan
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Re: [Finale] Vertical Text

[Robert Patterson]

If all you need is vertically oriented text without rotation of the
letters, you can use the standard frame options on a page title to do it.
If you need the letters to rotate, the only solution I know is a custom
shape. Perhaps you could place an invisible bar of music on your title
page. Ugly, but it will work.

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Ryan  wrote:

> What's the best way to get vertical text on a page? I've created
> SmartShapes before to do this, but this is a title page and there is no
> music nearby on which to attach the shape.
>
> Thanks
>
> Ryan
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Re: [Finale] Vertical Text

[Ryan]

It's on a title page, and there are linked parts involved. I'd rather not
put an invisible bar of music on that page.

Back to the drawing board.

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 7:39 AM, S Jones  wrote:

> What about using custom lines like a glissando line using the word you want
> with a blank character in place of the wavy line?
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:35 Robert Patterson  >
> wrote:
>
> > If all you need is vertically oriented text without rotation of the
> > letters, you can use the standard frame options on a page title to do it.
> > If you need the letters to rotate, the only solution I know is a custom
> > shape. Perhaps you could place an invisible bar of music on your title
> > page. Ugly, but it will work.
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Ryan  wrote:
> >
> > > What's the best way to get vertical text on a page? I've created
> > > SmartShapes before to do this, but this is a title page and there is no
> > > music nearby on which to attach the shape.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Ryan
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Re: [Finale] Vertical Text

[Ryan]

Thanks. I wish they would make the text tool a little more powerful.
Vertical text is very common in scores. It would be nice if there were an
easy way to achieve desired results.

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Robert Patterson <
rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote:

> You could export a graphic either out of Finale or other program and then
> place it on the page. Unfortunately there are numerous buggy hurdles with
> this approach, but it can be done.
>
> For vector graphics you must use EPS. I so wish Finale supported importing
> PDF as a graphic. There really is no excuse that they don't. Shy of using
> EPS (which is buggy) you can export a TIFF. (FWIW: I always bite the bullet
> and use EPS.)
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Ryan  wrote:
>
> > It's on a title page, and there are linked parts involved. I'd rather not
> > put an invisible bar of music on that page.
> >
> > Back to the drawing board.
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 7:39 AM, S Jones  wrote:
> >
> > > What about using custom lines like a glissando line using the word you
> > want
> > > with a blank character in place of the wavy line?
> > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:35 Robert Patterson <
> > rob...@robertgpatterson.com
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > If all you need is vertically oriented text without rotation of the
> > > > letters, you can use the standard frame options on a page title to do
> > it.
> > > > If you need the letters to rotate, the only solution I know is a
> custom
> > > > shape. Perhaps you could place an invisible bar of music on your
> title
> > > > page. Ugly, but it will work.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Ryan  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > What's the best way to get vertical text on a page? I've created
> > > > > SmartShapes before to do this, but this is a title page and there
> is
> > no
> > > > > music nearby on which to attach the shape.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > Ryan
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Re: [Finale] Vertical Text

[Robert Patterson]

You could export a graphic either out of Finale or other program and then
place it on the page. Unfortunately there are numerous buggy hurdles with
this approach, but it can be done.

For vector graphics you must use EPS. I so wish Finale supported importing
PDF as a graphic. There really is no excuse that they don't. Shy of using
EPS (which is buggy) you can export a TIFF. (FWIW: I always bite the bullet
and use EPS.)



On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Ryan  wrote:

> It's on a title page, and there are linked parts involved. I'd rather not
> put an invisible bar of music on that page.
>
> Back to the drawing board.
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 7:39 AM, S Jones  wrote:
>
> > What about using custom lines like a glissando line using the word you
> want
> > with a blank character in place of the wavy line?
> > On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:35 Robert Patterson <
> rob...@robertgpatterson.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > If all you need is vertically oriented text without rotation of the
> > > letters, you can use the standard frame options on a page title to do
> it.
> > > If you need the letters to rotate, the only solution I know is a custom
> > > shape. Perhaps you could place an invisible bar of music on your title
> > > page. Ugly, but it will work.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Ryan  wrote:
> > >
> > > > What's the best way to get vertical text on a page? I've created
> > > > SmartShapes before to do this, but this is a title page and there is
> no
> > > > music nearby on which to attach the shape.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Ryan
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Re: [Finale] Vertical Text

[Jan Angermüller]

Have you searched for sideways/vertical fonts ? There are quite some 
fonts available:
https://www.google.de/search?q=sideways+font=lnms=isch=X
https://www.google.de/search?q=vertical+font=lnms=isch=X

There is also a rotated text tutorial for Finale with custom smart shapes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bzYTkaR_48#t=3m09s

More suggestions and vertical font descriptions:
http://forum.makemusic.com/default.aspx?f=6=2=278511

Am 07.10.2015 um 20:43 schrieb Ryan:
> Berlin is nice, but I also need to rotate the text in the opposite
> direction.
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Jan Angermüller 
> wrote:
>
>> How about using a vertical text font like "Berlin" ?
>> See http://www.musegraph.com/fontinfo.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 07.10.2015 um 20:18 schrieb Ryan:
>>> Fair point. I do indeed want rotated text, both 90° and -90°.
>>> Thanks for helping me clarify.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Robert Patterson <
>>> rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote:
>>>
 When you say vertical text, to me that conjures:

 v
 e
 r
 t
 i
 c
 a
 l

 That is easily accomplished with page text. I think you are asking for
 rotated text.


 On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Ryan  wrote:

> Thanks. I wish they would make the text tool a little more powerful.
> Vertical text is very common in scores. It would be nice if there were
>> an
> easy way to achieve desired results.
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Robert Patterson <
> rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote:
>
>> You could export a graphic either out of Finale or other program and
 then
>> place it on the page. Unfortunately there are numerous buggy hurdles
 with
>> this approach, but it can be done.
>>
>> For vector graphics you must use EPS. I so wish Finale supported
> importing
>> PDF as a graphic. There really is no excuse that they don't. Shy of
 using
>> EPS (which is buggy) you can export a TIFF. (FWIW: I always bite the
> bullet
>> and use EPS.)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Ryan  wrote:
>>
>>> It's on a title page, and there are linked parts involved. I'd rather
> not
>>> put an invisible bar of music on that page.
>>>
>>> Back to the drawing board.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 7:39 AM, S Jones 
> wrote:
 What about using custom lines like a glissando line using the word
> you
>>> want
 with a blank character in place of the wavy line?
 On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:35 Robert Patterson <
>>> rob...@robertgpatterson.com
 wrote:

> If all you need is vertically oriented text without rotation of
 the
> letters, you can use the standard frame options on a page title
 to
> do
>>> it.
> If you need the letters to rotate, the only solution I know is a
>> custom
> shape. Perhaps you could place an invisible bar of music on your
>> title
> page. Ugly, but it will work.
>
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Ryan 
 wrote:
>> What's the best way to get vertical text on a page? I've
 created
>> SmartShapes before to do this, but this is a title page and
 there
>> is
>>> no
>> music nearby on which to attach the shape.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Ryan
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Re: [Finale] Vertical Text

[Robert Patterson]

When you say vertical text, to me that conjures:

v
e
r
t
i
c
a
l

That is easily accomplished with page text. I think you are asking for
rotated text.


On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Ryan  wrote:

> Thanks. I wish they would make the text tool a little more powerful.
> Vertical text is very common in scores. It would be nice if there were an
> easy way to achieve desired results.
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Robert Patterson <
> rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote:
>
> > You could export a graphic either out of Finale or other program and then
> > place it on the page. Unfortunately there are numerous buggy hurdles with
> > this approach, but it can be done.
> >
> > For vector graphics you must use EPS. I so wish Finale supported
> importing
> > PDF as a graphic. There really is no excuse that they don't. Shy of using
> > EPS (which is buggy) you can export a TIFF. (FWIW: I always bite the
> bullet
> > and use EPS.)
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Ryan  wrote:
> >
> > > It's on a title page, and there are linked parts involved. I'd rather
> not
> > > put an invisible bar of music on that page.
> > >
> > > Back to the drawing board.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 7:39 AM, S Jones 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > What about using custom lines like a glissando line using the word
> you
> > > want
> > > > with a blank character in place of the wavy line?
> > > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:35 Robert Patterson <
> > > rob...@robertgpatterson.com
> > > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > If all you need is vertically oriented text without rotation of the
> > > > > letters, you can use the standard frame options on a page title to
> do
> > > it.
> > > > > If you need the letters to rotate, the only solution I know is a
> > custom
> > > > > shape. Perhaps you could place an invisible bar of music on your
> > title
> > > > > page. Ugly, but it will work.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Ryan  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > What's the best way to get vertical text on a page? I've created
> > > > > > SmartShapes before to do this, but this is a title page and there
> > is
> > > no
> > > > > > music nearby on which to attach the shape.
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Re: [Finale] Vertical Text

[Ryan]

Berlin is nice, but I also need to rotate the text in the opposite
direction.

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Jan Angermüller 
wrote:

> How about using a vertical text font like "Berlin" ?
> See http://www.musegraph.com/fontinfo.html
>
>
>
> Am 07.10.2015 um 20:18 schrieb Ryan:
> > Fair point. I do indeed want rotated text, both 90° and -90°.
> > Thanks for helping me clarify.
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Robert Patterson <
> > rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote:
> >
> >> When you say vertical text, to me that conjures:
> >>
> >> v
> >> e
> >> r
> >> t
> >> i
> >> c
> >> a
> >> l
> >>
> >> That is easily accomplished with page text. I think you are asking for
> >> rotated text.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Ryan  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thanks. I wish they would make the text tool a little more powerful.
> >>> Vertical text is very common in scores. It would be nice if there were
> an
> >>> easy way to achieve desired results.
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Robert Patterson <
> >>> rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  You could export a graphic either out of Finale or other program and
> >> then
>  place it on the page. Unfortunately there are numerous buggy hurdles
> >> with
>  this approach, but it can be done.
> 
>  For vector graphics you must use EPS. I so wish Finale supported
> >>> importing
>  PDF as a graphic. There really is no excuse that they don't. Shy of
> >> using
>  EPS (which is buggy) you can export a TIFF. (FWIW: I always bite the
> >>> bullet
>  and use EPS.)
> 
> 
> 
>  On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Ryan  wrote:
> 
> > It's on a title page, and there are linked parts involved. I'd rather
> >>> not
> > put an invisible bar of music on that page.
> >
> > Back to the drawing board.
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 7:39 AM, S Jones 
> >>> wrote:
> >> What about using custom lines like a glissando line using the word
> >>> you
> > want
> >> with a blank character in place of the wavy line?
> >> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:35 Robert Patterson <
> > rob...@robertgpatterson.com
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> If all you need is vertically oriented text without rotation of
> >> the
> >>> letters, you can use the standard frame options on a page title
> >> to
> >>> do
> > it.
> >>> If you need the letters to rotate, the only solution I know is a
>  custom
> >>> shape. Perhaps you could place an invisible bar of music on your
>  title
> >>> page. Ugly, but it will work.
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Ryan 
> >> wrote:
>  What's the best way to get vertical text on a page? I've
> >> created
>  SmartShapes before to do this, but this is a title page and
> >> there
>  is
> > no
>  music nearby on which to attach the shape.
> 
>  Thanks
> 
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Re: [Finale] Vertical Text

[Ryan]

Fair point. I do indeed want rotated text, both 90° and -90°.
Thanks for helping me clarify.

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Robert Patterson <
rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote:

> When you say vertical text, to me that conjures:
>
> v
> e
> r
> t
> i
> c
> a
> l
>
> That is easily accomplished with page text. I think you are asking for
> rotated text.
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Ryan  wrote:
>
> > Thanks. I wish they would make the text tool a little more powerful.
> > Vertical text is very common in scores. It would be nice if there were an
> > easy way to achieve desired results.
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Robert Patterson <
> > rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote:
> >
> > > You could export a graphic either out of Finale or other program and
> then
> > > place it on the page. Unfortunately there are numerous buggy hurdles
> with
> > > this approach, but it can be done.
> > >
> > > For vector graphics you must use EPS. I so wish Finale supported
> > importing
> > > PDF as a graphic. There really is no excuse that they don't. Shy of
> using
> > > EPS (which is buggy) you can export a TIFF. (FWIW: I always bite the
> > bullet
> > > and use EPS.)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Ryan  wrote:
> > >
> > > > It's on a title page, and there are linked parts involved. I'd rather
> > not
> > > > put an invisible bar of music on that page.
> > > >
> > > > Back to the drawing board.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 7:39 AM, S Jones 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > What about using custom lines like a glissando line using the word
> > you
> > > > want
> > > > > with a blank character in place of the wavy line?
> > > > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:35 Robert Patterson <
> > > > rob...@robertgpatterson.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > If all you need is vertically oriented text without rotation of
> the
> > > > > > letters, you can use the standard frame options on a page title
> to
> > do
> > > > it.
> > > > > > If you need the letters to rotate, the only solution I know is a
> > > custom
> > > > > > shape. Perhaps you could place an invisible bar of music on your
> > > title
> > > > > > page. Ugly, but it will work.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Ryan 
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > What's the best way to get vertical text on a page? I've
> created
> > > > > > > SmartShapes before to do this, but this is a title page and
> there
> > > is
> > > > no
> > > > > > > music nearby on which to attach the shape.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > >
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Re: [Finale] Vertical Text

[Jan Angermüller]

How about using a vertical text font like "Berlin" ?
See http://www.musegraph.com/fontinfo.html



Am 07.10.2015 um 20:18 schrieb Ryan:
> Fair point. I do indeed want rotated text, both 90° and -90°.
> Thanks for helping me clarify.
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Robert Patterson <
> rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote:
>
>> When you say vertical text, to me that conjures:
>>
>> v
>> e
>> r
>> t
>> i
>> c
>> a
>> l
>>
>> That is easily accomplished with page text. I think you are asking for
>> rotated text.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Ryan  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks. I wish they would make the text tool a little more powerful.
>>> Vertical text is very common in scores. It would be nice if there were an
>>> easy way to achieve desired results.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Robert Patterson <
>>> rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote:
>>>
 You could export a graphic either out of Finale or other program and
>> then
 place it on the page. Unfortunately there are numerous buggy hurdles
>> with
 this approach, but it can be done.

 For vector graphics you must use EPS. I so wish Finale supported
>>> importing
 PDF as a graphic. There really is no excuse that they don't. Shy of
>> using
 EPS (which is buggy) you can export a TIFF. (FWIW: I always bite the
>>> bullet
 and use EPS.)



 On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Ryan  wrote:

> It's on a title page, and there are linked parts involved. I'd rather
>>> not
> put an invisible bar of music on that page.
>
> Back to the drawing board.
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 7:39 AM, S Jones 
>>> wrote:
>> What about using custom lines like a glissando line using the word
>>> you
> want
>> with a blank character in place of the wavy line?
>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:35 Robert Patterson <
> rob...@robertgpatterson.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If all you need is vertically oriented text without rotation of
>> the
>>> letters, you can use the standard frame options on a page title
>> to
>>> do
> it.
>>> If you need the letters to rotate, the only solution I know is a
 custom
>>> shape. Perhaps you could place an invisible bar of music on your
 title
>>> page. Ugly, but it will work.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Ryan 
>> wrote:
 What's the best way to get vertical text on a page? I've
>> created
 SmartShapes before to do this, but this is a title page and
>> there
 is
> no
 music nearby on which to attach the shape.

 Thanks

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Re: [Finale] Vertical text

[Noel Stoutenburg]

When I advised Owan wrote:
create the line in the shape designer, or with an outside graphics 
package, rotate the line, save the image, and import it as a graphic.
I thought I remembered that there was a rotate function in shape designer. 

I thought wrong.
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Re: [Finale] Vertical text

[Richard Yates]

 Is there any way to create vertical text (ie running bottom-to-top)?
 I'm wanting it for a 'completion date' after a final barline.

Yes, use the Custom Line Tool. Set line thickness to 0. Put text in the
'Center Full' option. Select and Ctrl-click in the score. Drag to tilt.

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Re: [Finale] Vertical text

[Owain Sutton]

Brilliant!  Thanks.

Richard Yates wrote:
Is there any way to create vertical text (ie running bottom-to-top)?
I'm wanting it for a 'completion date' after a final barline.

Yes, use the Custom Line Tool. Set line thickness to 0. Put text in the
'Center Full' option. Select and Ctrl-click in the score. Drag to tilt.
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Re: [Finale] Vertical text

[Richard Yates]

Richard Yates écrit:
Yes, use the Custom Line Tool. Set line thickness to 0. Put text in the
'Center Full' option. Select and Ctrl-click in the score. Drag to tilt.

Hey, this is brilliant! I had no idea one could put text instead of the
line. Thanks, Richard. And thanks to Owain for asking!

 Now, is it possible to copy such a custom line from one file to another?

Yes, Robert G. Patterson's Settings Scrapbook plugin can copy these Custom
Line Definitions to all open documents.

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