Re: [Fink-devel] new fink commands

2003-12-09 Thread Martin Costabel
TheSin wrote: I completely agree with this, I don't think two pkgs should have the same pkg in it, could end up with bad problems, specially in the bindist...I suppose this is more of a pkg bug.. There are other packages that do this. python has python21, python22, and python23 as parents. IIRC

[Fink-devel] Re: fink/perlmod/Fink ChangeLog,1.459,1.460 Validation.pm,1.71,1.72

2003-12-09 Thread David R. Morrison
OK, I corrected my error, restored some accidentally wiped out changes, and in particular put buildconflicts back into Validation.pm. -- Dave --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be mor

[Fink-devel] Re: fink/perlmod/Fink ChangeLog,1.459,1.460 Validation.pm,1.71,1.72

2003-12-09 Thread TheSin
we don't want to docu it yet, it still needs more testing before we want to use it. --- TS http://southofheaven.org Chaos is the beginning and end, try dealing with the rest. On 9-Dec-03, at 4:44 PM, David R. Morrison wrote: On the other hand, the point of the exercise was to make sure that ever

[Fink-devel] Re: fink/perlmod/Fink ChangeLog,1.459,1.460 Validation.pm,1.71,1.72

2003-12-09 Thread David R. Morrison
TheSin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > why was buildconflicts removed? > --- > TS Sorry, that was an accident; looks like I started from an old version of Validation.pm by mistake. I"ll fix it. On the other hand, the point of the exercise was to make sure that everything in Validation.pm is in the

[Fink-devel] documentation updates

2003-12-09 Thread David R. Morrison
Folks, we need a few updates in the packaging manual. Section 5.4 on scripts is out of date; could somebody who is familiar with the current script rules please revise it? (just send the text here if you don't know how do the xml edits) Also, I detected some amiguities between Validation.pm and

Re: [Fink-devel] new fink commands

2003-12-09 Thread TheSin
I've never looked at the PDB so your right but then it could reuse the sub to get this info. And add a show parent in the PDB for users, but then it could be in the devel module. so how about it? I'm willing to get the module started and move some commands to it, if someone will right the rele

Re: [Fink-devel] new fink commands

2003-12-09 Thread TheSin
fink showparent libavcodec-shlibs would show it's in ffmpeg. then they could copy over that info file. And of course for us with like 100 pkgs well I don't need to explain the devel usage i think. --- TS http://southofheaven.org Chaos is the beginning and end, try dealing with the rest. On 9-D

Re: [Fink-devel] new fink commands

2003-12-09 Thread TheSin
I completely agree with this, I don't think two pkgs should have the same pkg in it, could end up with bad problems, specially in the bindist...I suppose this is more of a pkg bug.. --- TS http://southofheaven.org Chaos is the beginning and end, try dealing with the rest. On 9-Dec-03, at 3:44 PM

Re: [Fink-devel] new fink commands

2003-12-09 Thread Max Horn
Am Dienstag, 09.12.03 um 21:59 Uhr schrieb TheSin: I think this is true for at least parent, as I explained before I have many users ask where a pkg is, like in the case of mplayer which depends on libavcodec which is in ffmpeg. Fink will say it can't find the depend on libavcodec, and then pp

Re: [Fink-devel] new fink commands

2003-12-09 Thread Max Horn
Am Dienstag, 09.12.03 um 21:56 Uhr schrieb TheSin: no this isn't true as JFM showed us... [EMAIL PROTECTED] [~]$ fink splitoffs netpbm-bin netpbm10 Information about 1923 packages read in 2 seconds. Information about 27 shared libraries read in 0 seconds. netpbm-bin is a child, it's parent netpbm

Re: [Fink-devel] new fink commands

2003-12-09 Thread TheSin
just noticed i posted the wrong example here it is. netpbm has 2 children: -> netpbm-shlibs -> netpbm-bin netpbm10 has 2 children: -> netpbm10-shlibs -> netpbm-bin --- TS http://southofheaven.org Chaos is the beginning and end, try dealing with the rest. On 9-Dec-03

Re: [Fink-devel] new fink commands

2003-12-09 Thread TheSin
no this isn't true as JFM showed us... [EMAIL PROTECTED] [~]$ fink splitoffs netpbm-bin netpbm10 Information about 1923 packages read in 2 seconds. Information about 27 shared libraries read in 0 seconds. netpbm-bin is a child, it's parent netpbm10 has 2 children: -> netpbm10-shlibs

Re: [Fink-devel] new fink commands

2003-12-09 Thread TheSin
I think this is true for at least parent, as I explained before I have many users ask where a pkg is, like in the case of mplayer which depends on libavcodec which is in ffmpeg. Fink will say it can't find the depend on libavcodec, and then ppl don't know where to find this. Now if it's not i

Re: [Fink-devel] new fink commands

2003-12-09 Thread Max Horn
Am Dienstag, 09.12.03 um 07:45 Uhr schrieb D. Höhn: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 TheSin wrote: | I just added these two commands to fink HEAD, dmalloc should be adding | them to the man pages for me tomorrow, please provide feedback. | | fink splits -> returns a list of chil

Re: [Fink-devel] release coming

2003-12-09 Thread David R. Morrison
If I understand your message correctly, you do not believe that we are ready for a release. Please let me know when we are ready. -- Dave TheSin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think a few features should be held out Dave > > since we are still discussing on fink splitoffs and fink showpare

Re: [Fink-devel] "Trees" not searched in order?

2003-12-09 Thread David R. Morrison
Martin: It will work if you move local/main to be the last item in your Trees line in fink.conf. -- Dave --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you crea

Re: [Fink-devel] "Trees" not searched in order?

2003-12-09 Thread TheSin
then just add a .1 to the revision that is what i do. --- TS http://southofheaven.org Chaos is the beginning and end, try dealing with the rest. On 9-Dec-03, at 1:19 PM, Martin Costabel wrote: Benjamin Reed wrote: Martin Costabel wrote: Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Why isn't the order of Trees imp

Re: [Fink-devel] "Trees" not searched in order?

2003-12-09 Thread Martin Costabel
Benjamin Reed wrote: Martin Costabel wrote: Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Why isn't the order of Trees important? This has annoyed me, too. I seem to remember someone saying that it is now, since one of the recent shakeups, the *reverse* order of the Trees line that is used. If true, I would con

Re: [Fink-devel] new fink commands

2003-12-09 Thread TheSin
maybe someone will know this better then me. in get_splitoffs I'm using this $package = Fink::PkgVersion->match_package($name); which will return one match to a pkg name maybe the fault it there since there are two versions of netpbm-bin. or am I wrong, does it return both and I just don'

Re: [Fink-devel] release coming

2003-12-09 Thread TheSin
I think a few features should be held out Dave since we are still discussing on fink splitoffs and fink showparent, I'd leave those out, and there is a bug in the sub get_splitoffs, I hope to have that fixed but still we should leave it out for now since it's not documented. Also could we get

Re: [Fink-devel] "Trees" not searched in order?

2003-12-09 Thread Benjamin Reed
jfm wrote: It is somewhat less intuitive, yes _ and further was unannounced, and undocumented, while this ordering is really an important config tool for users, and there were several previous msgs on the lists pointing out its use. So the change definitely wasn't done optimally. Undocumented a

Re: [Fink-devel] "Trees" not searched in order?

2003-12-09 Thread Benjamin Reed
Martin Costabel wrote: Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Why isn't the order of Trees important? This has annoyed me, too. I seem to remember someone saying that it is now, since one of the recent shakeups, the *reverse* order of the Trees line that is used. If true, I would consider this a serious b

[Fink-devel] release coming

2003-12-09 Thread David R. Morrison
I plan to release a new version of the package manager, fink-0.18.0, in a day or two. If you are aware of any bugs in CVS HEAD, please fix them (or report them) now. If you are planning to add new features to CVS HEAD, please wait until after the release. -- Dave

[Fink-devel] gsl-1.4 packaged for 10.3

2003-12-09 Thread Beat Zahnd
Hello all, the included info-file works great on my panther. regards, Beat # Package: gsl Version: 1.4 Revision: 1 Maintainer: Jeffrey Whitaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Depends: %N-shlibs (= %v-%r) Source: ftp://mirrors.rcn.net/pub/sourceware/gsl/%n-%v.tar.gz Source-MD5: 7513e13525c073dc07e02cc43

[Fink-devel] Mirrors.

2003-12-09 Thread David Brown
Do I have to do anything to get my package to get copied to the mirrors (ocaml)? It builds fine, but you have to explicitly tell it to go to the original source URL. Thanks, Dave --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program.

Re: [Fink-devel] "Trees" not searched in order?

2003-12-09 Thread jfm
On Dec 9, 2003, at 5:25 PM, Martin Costabel wrote: Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Why isn't the order of Trees important? This has annoyed me, too. I seem to remember someone saying that it is now, since one of the recent shakeups, Not that recent : the introduction of 'fink index' the *reverse* orde

Re: [Fink-devel] new fink commands

2003-12-09 Thread TheSin
seems to only show the first match, that isn't good... Glad you caught this as I'm using this sub in the shlibs code and that could have caused a huge head ache. --- TS http://southofheaven.org Chaos is the beginning and end, try dealing with the rest. On 9-Dec-03, at 9:13 AM, jfm wrote: On De

Re: [Fink-devel] "Trees" not searched in order?

2003-12-09 Thread TheSin
it's tree but version is higher, is if there is a newer version in on of the included trees it'll prefer it. plus if you have the old one compiled the deb is still there and it'll pick it. but you can do fink install libxml2-2.5.x-%r and it'll force that one. But you need the revision. and u

Re: [Fink-devel] new fink commands

2003-12-09 Thread TheSin
and what happens in this instance? I never thought of this, I'm gonna test it right now...thanks JF. --- TS http://southofheaven.org Chaos is the beginning and end, try dealing with the rest. On 9-Dec-03, at 9:13 AM, jfm wrote: netpbm-bin has as parents both netpbm and netpbm10 _ and there may

Re: [Fink-devel] "Trees" not searched in order?

2003-12-09 Thread Martin Costabel
Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Why isn't the order of Trees important? This has annoyed me, too. I seem to remember someone saying that it is now, since one of the recent shakeups, the *reverse* order of the Trees line that is used. If true, I would consider this a serious bug. -- Martin ---

Re: [Fink-devel] new fink commands

2003-12-09 Thread jfm
On Dec 9, 2003, at 7:45 AM, D. Höhn wrote: There can be many children but only _one_ parent. Is that correct? netpbm-bin has as parents both netpbm and netpbm10 _ and there may be a couple more such examples. Jean-Francois --- This SF.net ema

[Fink-devel] "Trees" not searched in order?

2003-12-09 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
I wanted to roll back from unstable's "libxml2" at version 2.6.x, to stable's "libxml2" at version 2.5.x so that I can build Perl's XML::LibXML again (which isn't compatible with 2.6.x yet). I thought I could just copy the stable .info file to my local/main area, and since I have local first, it

Re: I am giving this 24 hours -> (Re: [Fink-devel] Is it ok to remove phpmyadmin and pws from the web-module?)

2003-12-09 Thread "D. Höhn"
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 David R. Morrison wrote: | I screamed and complained before, and I'll do it again. | I didn't realise that you meant to express your disapproval. You asked me a qustion in the first mail you sent. I apologise for not getting it right :) | You can'

Re: I am giving this 24 hours -> (Re: [Fink-devel] Is it ok to remove phpmyadmin and pws from the web-module?)

2003-12-09 Thread David R. Morrison
I screamed and complained before, and I'll do it again. You can't and shouldn't remove things. -- Dave --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create

Re: [Fink-devel] fink guile make error

2003-12-09 Thread Peter O'Gorman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Beamis wrote: |/sw/lib/libguile.dylib(libguile.12.3.0.dylib-master.o) definition of |_environ |ld: Undefined symbols: |_lt_dlpreload_default It is trying to link against libguile.12.dylib from guile-1.6.x, either remove the guile16

Re: [Fink-devel] Hello Fink Project

2003-12-09 Thread Sao X
Alexander, Creation/editing can be preserved as it is, I'm not thinking to touch that at all. In the short term I'll concentrate on input of content; cleanup what's already there and add a special section for beginners to download, install and troubleshoot fink. But at the same time, for the

[Fink-devel] fink guile make error

2003-12-09 Thread Chris Beamis
Hi, I got this address from the fink Guile page, http://fink.sourceforge.net/pdb/package.php/guile I've been trying to update a fink installation on my Mac running OS X 10.2.8, but it stops with errors when compiling guile. I have tried fink reinstall fink and I have tried installing Guile sep

[Fink-devel] Could this be a good addition to the make test ?

2003-12-09 Thread "D. Höhn"
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 In oder to check distfiles mirrors and their usability i was wondering if we should attach a little script which does what is described here: http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/LinuxMag/col53.html [suggested title: ``Checking your website's health,

Re: [Fink-devel] bundle-gnome-1.4-13

2003-12-09 Thread Martin Costabel
Hasani Huey wrote: [] ld: table of contents for archive: /sw/lib/libintl.a is out of date; rerun ranlib(1) (can't load from it) Just do it as it says :-) FAQ#5.10 http://fink.sourceforge.net/faq/comp-general.php#toc-out-of-date -- Martin --- Th

[Fink-devel] Documentation needed

2003-12-09 Thread Daniel Macks
The .info GCC: field does not appear to be documented anywhere. Someone who's got the Official Word on it should probably add it to the Packaging Manual. dan -- Daniel Macks [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.netspace.org/~dmacks --- This SF.net e

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: dists/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/web amaya.info,1.1,1.2 amaya.patch,1.1,1.2

2003-12-09 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka
On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Ben Hines wrote: > > On Dec 8, 2003, at 9:45 PM, Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote: > > > Actually, the maintainer removed them. I'll put them back. > > > > No, he didn't remove them, they were added by someone else, and he > didn't notice. What I meant is that he removed them from HIS

Re: I am giving this 24 hours -> (Re: [Fink-devel] Is it ok to remove phpmyadmin and pws from the web-module?)

2003-12-09 Thread Ben Hines
On Dec 8, 2003, at 11:11 PM, Ben Hines wrote: On Dec 8, 2003, at 10:57 PM, D. Höhn wrote: Geezes you people are picky ;) "I will remove the data contained in teh two mentioned flders so that it does not have to be checked anymore" better? ;) see yas Yes i still use phpmyadmin. Leave them. An

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: dists/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/web amaya.info,1.1,1.2 amaya.patch,1.1,1.2

2003-12-09 Thread Ben Hines
On Dec 8, 2003, at 9:45 PM, Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote: Actually, the maintainer removed them. I'll put them back. No, he didn't remove them, they were added by someone else, and he didn't notice. -Ben --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: S

Re: I am giving this 24 hours -> (Re: [Fink-devel] Is it ok to remove phpmyadmin and pws from the web-module?)

2003-12-09 Thread Ben Hines
On Dec 8, 2003, at 10:57 PM, D. Höhn wrote: Geezes you people are picky ;) "I will remove the data contained in teh two mentioned flders so that it does not have to be checked anymore" better? ;) see yas Yes i still use phpmyadmin. Leave them. -Ben -

Re: I am giving this 24 hours -> (Re: [Fink-devel] Is it ok to remove phpmyadmin and pws from the web-module?)

2003-12-09 Thread "D. Höhn"
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 D. Höhn wrote: | Darian Lanx wrote: | | | Hello | | | | I am a bit on the "cleaning trip". | | Is the subdirectory pws or phpmyadmin in the web module still in use? | | Thank you | | | | -d | | | | Just a follow up to my own mail. Since no one scr

Re: I am giving this 24 hours -> (Re: [Fink-devel] Is it ok to remove phpmyadmin and pws from the web-module?)

2003-12-09 Thread Alexander Strange
On Dec 9, 2003, at 1:49 AM, D. Höhn wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Darian Lanx wrote: | Hello | | I am a bit on the "cleaning trip". | Is the subdirectory pws or phpmyadmin in the web module still in use? | Thank you | | -d | Just a follow up to my own mail. Since no on