[Fink-users] Re: [Fink-users] Rép : [Fink-users] Bluefish, Apple X11, and xfree86-threaded?

2003-01-09 Thread Peter O'Gorman
On Friday, January 10, 2003, at 01:59 PM, Michèle Garoche wrote: Le jeudi, 9 jan 2003, à 21:54 Europe/Paris, Douglas Theobald a écrit : Great - glad that worked. That was what I was going to recommend next, but I bet it took a little time. Let us know how X11 does with threaded apps, since

[Fink-users] Rép : [Fink-users] Bluefish, Apple X11, and xfree86-threaded?

2003-01-09 Thread Michèle Garoche
Le jeudi, 9 jan 2003, à 21:54 Europe/Paris, Douglas Theobald a écrit : Great - glad that worked. That was what I was going to recommend next, but I bet it took a little time. Let us know how X11 does with threaded apps, since this is really a pretty ghetto hack. As soon as someone tells me how t

[Fink-users] Which tracker to I post new version info to?

2003-01-09 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka
I remember the last time I put it in the bug database and also emailed the maintainer, and the maintainer told me to put it in the tracker (it was already there). -- Hisashi T Fujinaka - [EMAIL PROTECTED] BSEE (6/86) + BSChem (3/95) + BAEnglish (8/95) + $2.50 = mocha latte -

[Fink-users] X11 and multiple users

2003-01-09 Thread William Scott
Hi: I think I have found out how to use X-windows with multiple users. The X11 session creates a file and a directory with another file in /tmp, i.e., .X0-lock .X11-unix/ If you delete these manually before logging out, then X11 can be started with another user's account. I am afraid I don't

[Fink-users] Fink on local network

2003-01-09 Thread Linc Davis
This is a question about synchronizing Fink installations over a LAN, using one machine as a build host. Last March Martin Costabel posted to Fink-users the following (slightly edited): [quote] > How do I get the same version of the same packages on multiple > machines, but build only on one.

[Fink-users] Incompatible libraries for compile vs run?

2003-01-09 Thread Wolfgang Rumpf
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I installed the Apple X11 and now my KPOVMODELER gives me this error (numerous times) when I invoke it - and the menubars/icons don't show up, making it somewhat difficult to pick tools :) libpng warning: Application was compiled with png.h from lib

[Fink-users] Problems compiling: can't install package libpoll-1.2-2

2003-01-09 Thread Lukas Muehlethaler
% fink install wget-ssl kde-i18n-hebrew after download starts to compile just fine but after about 15 min. fails with the following problem: ... Selecting previously deselected package libpoll. (Reading database ... 39657 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking libpoll (from .../li

[Fink-users] Re: Strange $DISPLAY behavior when switching locations

2003-01-09 Thread Ettore Aldrovandi
>From: Zachery Bir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [Fink-users] Strange $DISPLAY behavior when switching locations >X-Original-Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 12:28:21 -0500 >Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 12:28:21 -0500 > >When changing location from my worksite to home, X11 no longer accepts >new X connections. I

[Fink-users] Re: I solved the Mysterious Apple X11 Path Problem

2003-01-09 Thread Ettore Aldrovandi
Lenny, I don't think it's related to the user's default shell. X11 sets (or tries to) a default path, unless this is changed in .xinitrc (more about this below). Try to remove .xinitrc completely and check with ps auxeww to see the environment. X11 is launched with PATH set to

Re: [Fink-users] The Lord of the Keys (Italian version)

2003-01-09 Thread Alexander Meier
marcello, (and all others of course too :) i'm aware of the fact, that in the apple x11 one can change the usa.keymapping to another one as some peple have posted doing so successfully... now where exactly should I do so? I couldn't find this anywhere... sorry if this has been answered before..

Re: [Fink-users] Bluefish, Apple X11, and xfree86-threaded?

2003-01-09 Thread Douglas Theobald
Great - glad that worked. That was what I was going to recommend next, but I bet it took a little time. Let us know how X11 does with threaded apps, since this is really a pretty ghetto hack. One more thing - you can actually run both XDarwin and X11 side-by-side if you issue this command: defaul

[Fink-users] The Lord of the Keys (Italian version)

2003-01-09 Thread Marcello Testi
an endless saga... ... but I will make it short...:-) Background This problem affected me with the fink-installed XDarwin package and it is still there with the Apple X11 distribution Details I have a PowerMac with a "Apple Pro" Keyboard bought in Italy in early 2001. The keyboard has a "qwerty"

Re: [Fink-users] Getting X11 and XDarwin to coexist.

2003-01-09 Thread Alexander Hansen
I came up with a crude method: I made copies of .xinitrc for X11.app and XDarwin.app, and then shell scripts to copy the appropriate version to be .xinitrc and run the relevant program: [ldx3:~] hansen% cat startxapple.csh exec cp .xinitrc.apple .xinitrc & exec /sw/bin/launch /Applications/X11.ap

Re: [Fink-users] Re: [Fink-devel] compile problems with Apple's X11installed.

2003-01-09 Thread Pejvan BEIGUI
Martin Costabel wrote: I see one difference between Apple's libs any all others that might explain this: Apple's libX11, for example, has an install_name of /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.6.2.dylib, whereas everyone else has /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.6.dylib I think it's another bug on Apple's already heav

Re: [Fink-users] [OT] RSS Feeds

2003-01-09 Thread Marcello Testi
>Or even NetNewsReader Lite. I tried both the Lite and Pro version. The Pro is more up to date and doesn't give me troubles with a unicode feed I made. Anyway, I prefer SlashDock, but its >In Fink you'll find Evolution, which can read those feeds. But getting it is a huge download-and-compile th

Re: [Fink-users] Bluefish, Apple X11, and xfree86-threaded?

2003-01-09 Thread Michèle Garoche
It's perfect now. Many thanks to Douglas, Ben and all people who helped me. XDarwin and X11 works. So I did: 1 - sudo sudo dpkg -r --force-depends xfree86-rootless-threaded xfree86-rootless-threaded-shlibs xfree86-base-threaded xfree86-base-threaded-shlibs 2 - Install X11User, X11SDK 3 - sud

[Fink-users] Getting X11 and XDarwin to coexist.

2003-01-09 Thread Vivien Mary Kendon
OK, thanks to several of you for hints and help (not necessarily directed at me) I now have Apple's X11 and XDarwin full screen happily coexisting on my iBook. I have probably done something slightly different to most, I followed the info on the fink web pages to remove xfree-86-base, shlibs, ro

Re: [Fink-users] Bluefish, Apple X11, and xfree86-threaded?

2003-01-09 Thread Ben Hines
And you'll need to reinstall apple's X11 packages afterwards as well, because you corrupted your install by installing them first. -Ben On Thursday, January 9, 2003, at 11:04 AM, David R. Morrison wrote: Try the instructions: http://fink.sourceforge.net/doc/x11/inst-xfree86.php#switching-x1

Re: [Fink-users] Bluefish, Apple X11, and xfree86-threaded?

2003-01-09 Thread Ben Hines
On Thursday, January 9, 2003, at 10:54 AM, Michèle Garoche wrote: Le jeudi, 9 jan 2003, à 19:46 Europe/Paris, Alexander Hansen a écrit : Have you tried removing xfree86-rootless-threaded first? Same. sudo /sw/bin/fink remove xfree86-rootless-threaded Password: Information about 2063 packag

Re: [Fink-users] Bluefish, Apple X11, and xfree86-threaded?

2003-01-09 Thread David R. Morrison
Try the instructions: http://fink.sourceforge.net/doc/x11/inst-xfree86.php#switching-x11 -- Dave On Jan 9,2003 19:54:16 +0100, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mich=E8le_Garoche?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > >Le jeudi, 9 jan 2003, à 19:46 Europe/Paris, Alexander Hansen a écrit : > >> Have you tried removi

Re: [Fink-users] Bluefish, Apple X11, and xfree86-threaded?

2003-01-09 Thread Michèle Garoche
Le jeudi, 9 jan 2003, à 19:46 Europe/Paris, Alexander Hansen a écrit : Have you tried removing xfree86-rootless-threaded first? Same. sudo /sw/bin/fink remove xfree86-rootless-threaded Password: Information about 2063 packages read in 1 seconds. pkg xfree86-rootless-threaded version ### pkg

Re: [Fink-users] Bluefish, Apple X11, and xfree86-threaded?

2003-01-09 Thread Alexander Hansen
Have you tried removing xfree86-rootless-threaded first? On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 13:35, Michèle Garoche wrote: > > Le jeudi, 9 jan 2003, à 18:59 Europe/Paris, Douglas Theobald a écrit : > > > To get things back how they were, do: > > sudo mv /usr/X11R6_bak /usr/X11R6 > > sudo mv /etc/X11_bak/

Re: [Fink-users] RSS Feeds

2003-01-09 Thread Ken Engel
Another good one is AmphetaDesk. It's free and it runs right in the browser itself. http://www.disobey.com/amphetadesk --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasof

Re: [Fink-users] Bluefish, Apple X11, and xfree86-threaded?

2003-01-09 Thread Michèle Garoche
Le jeudi, 9 jan 2003, à 18:59 Europe/Paris, Douglas Theobald a écrit : To get things back how they were, do: sudo mv /usr/X11R6_bak /usr/X11R6 sudo mv /etc/X11_bak/etc/X11 Already done, because I could not launch either XDarwin nor X11. Now verify that your normal XDarwin works. Let me k

Re: [Fink-users] Bluefish, Apple X11, and xfree86-threaded?

2003-01-09 Thread Douglas Theobald
To get things back how they were, do: sudo mv /usr/X11R6_bak /usr/X11R6 sudo mv /etc/X11_bak/etc/X11 Now verify that your normal XDarwin works. Let me know here what happens. The problem was that fink still thought that you had xfree86-base-threaded installed, when you didn't. Try the same

Re: [Fink-users] What do you guys make of this?

2003-01-09 Thread Justin C. Walker
This is just an observation: you do have good ideas to contribute, but they can often get lost in the forest of polemics. The tenon discussion really belongs in another forum; this is for technical discussions. If you want to avoid ending up on "auto-delete" lists, you might try to tone down

Re: [Fink-users] Will Apple charge us for the X11 stable release?

2003-01-09 Thread Zachery Bir
On Wednesday, Jan 8, 2003, at 17:25 US/Eastern, Justin Hallett wrote: I don't think they will be able to charge for it, maybe if they make an extra lib that isn;t GPL/LGPL'd but if and I repeat if they make a superior one I may concider paying for it, not for the crap they just put out though, a

Re: [Fink-users] RSS Feeds

2003-01-09 Thread Adrian Simmons
Marcello Testi wrote: You should have a reader. Try SlashDock or NetNewsReader Pro. I investigated for a very little time a few weeks ago, but I didn't find a reader among the Fink packages Or even NetNewsReader Lite. In Fink you'll find Evolution, which can read those feeds. Adrian -

[Fink-users] Strange $DISPLAY behavior when switching locations

2003-01-09 Thread Zachery Bir
Sorry for the cross-post, hoping to get a broad range of experiences When changing location from my worksite to home, X11 no longer accepts new X connections. I have to quit X11 and restart it. I'm not sure what to make of it, but I often left XDarwin running, and it had no problems picking up

Re: [Fink-users] RSS Feeds

2003-01-09 Thread Marcello Testi
>I just read on the Fink website about RSS feeds. This looks interesting. My >question is, how do I read them? If I click on the link in my browser, I get >the xml-source, which is not very readable. How do I configure my browser to >properly show the rss feed data? You should have a reader. Try S

[Fink-users] RSS Feeds

2003-01-09 Thread Koen van der Drift
Hi, I just read on the Fink website about RSS feeds. This looks interesting. My question is, how do I read them? If I click on the link in my browser, I get the xml-source, which is not very readable. How do I configure my browser to properly show the rss feed data? thanks, - Koen. ---

Re: [Fink-users] switching back from Apple's X11 to fink's packages

2003-01-09 Thread Alexander Hansen
Switching back is covered in the FAQ: http://fink.sourceforge.net/faq/comp-packages.php#cant-install-xfree -- Alexander K. Hansen Associate Research Scientist, Columbia University visiting MIT Plasma Science and Fusion Center Levitated Dipole Experiment 175 Albany Street, NW17-219 Cambridge, MA

[Fink-users] switching back from Apple's X11 to fink's packages

2003-01-09 Thread Daniel M. Bikel
As much as I love the speed of Apple's X11, the lack of proper window focusing behavior ("other-frame" command in emacs) and the lack of cut-and-paste support for wm's that aren't quartz-wm have made me want to switch back to the standard source/binary release of XFree86/XDarwin that I had previous

Re: [Fink-users] Re: [Fink-devel] compile problems with Apple's X11 installed.

2003-01-09 Thread Justin Hallett
you email the maintainer, I thought you were porting/building something your self. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >How do I add this when running a "fink update-all" please ? -=[JFH] Justin F. Hallett -=[JFH] Rendek Communications Inc. -=[JFH] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

Re: [Fink-users] Qt compile problem

2003-01-09 Thread Benjamin Reed
On Thursday, January 9, 2003, at 09:04 AM, Alexander Hansen wrote: Unpacking qt3 (from .../qt3_3.1.1-3_darwin-powerpc.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package qt3-dev. Unpacking qt3-dev (from .../qt3-dev_3.1.1-3_darwin-powerpc.deb) ... Setting up qt3 (3.1.1-3) ... Setting up qt3-dev (3.1.

Re: [Fink-users] How to completely remove Fink?

2003-01-09 Thread Alexander Hansen
http://fink.sourceforge.net/faq/usage-fink.php#removing On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 06:50, Maurizio Camagna wrote: > A very simple question, but I could not find any help in Fink's docs and searching >with Google... > I need do give my Mac to another person. I want to remove completely Fink and any >a

Re: [Fink-users] Qt compile problem

2003-01-09 Thread Alexander Hansen
What does "fink list qt3" give you (i.e. are you missing any of the splitoffs)? On Wed, 2003-01-08 at 21:58, Paul Fons wrote: > > In doing an update-all, I was asked to satisfy a virtual dependency on > qt (below) > > Information about 2061 packages read in 1 seconds. > > > fink needs help p

Re: [Fink-users] How to completely remove Fink?

2003-01-09 Thread Sebastian Flothow
I need do give my Mac to another person. I want to remove completely Fink and any application installed with it, leaving the OSX installation exactly as if I've never installed fink. How can I do that? Is that possible or I need to reinstall OSX completely? It seems to me that a fresh install o

Re: [Fink-users] Flabbergasted and Confused but LAUGHING AT TENON (and XonX)

2003-01-09 Thread Benjamin Reed
It's not like you can call Tenon and ask them: "Hi, are you engaging in criminal racketeering to prevent the XonX team from giving away HW OpenGL Support in XFree86?" I'm really sorry you got screwed by Tenon, but this is pretty off-topic for the list. Not to mention the fact that whatever Teno

Re: [Fink-users] KDE apps crash on Apple X11

2003-01-09 Thread Alexander Hansen
That's exactly the situation: /etc/X11 is an actual directory rather than a symlink. On Wed, 2003-01-08 at 17:49, Justin Hallett wrote: > nah, it's prolly just /etc/X11 and just not symlinked > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >One more quick question -- why was /usr/X11R6/etc gone? Is this related

Re: [Fink-users] Re: X11 vs. XDarwin packages and config files

2003-01-09 Thread Alexander Hansen
I got around the problem by putting . /sw/bin/init.sh in .xinitrc. On Wed, 2003-01-08 at 17:14, Kow K wrote: > > On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 02:10 PM, Erik Osheim wrote: > > > > > > The other question is: does anyone know where X11's terminal program > > looks for configuration informa

Re: [Fink-users] I solved the Mysterious Apple X11 Path Problem

2003-01-09 Thread Benjamin Reed
On Thursday, January 9, 2003, at 05:56 AM, lenny bruce wrote: Apple changed the default shell to bash starting in 10.2 but that only applies to NEW USERS, not existing ones. Not as far as I'm aware. It's still csh. They change /bin/sh to be bash instead of zsh though. The problem is, regard

Re: [Fink-users] I solved the Mysterious Apple X11 Path Problem

2003-01-09 Thread Alexander Hansen
Another way to do this is put ". /sw/bin/init.sh" in .xinitrc . On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 05:56, lenny bruce wrote: > Apple's "X11 for Mac OS X" lives in bash. > > > I was still stuck thinking tcsh-like thoughts. > > Apple changed the default shell to bash starting in 10.2 > but that only applies t

Re: [Fink-users] rsync compatible with hfs?

2003-01-09 Thread Martin Costabel
Stephan Jaeger wrote: Hiya, I just wonder if someone out there is using the fink version of rsync? There is not much difference (except the version number) between the fink version and the one in /usr/bin. No resource fork support. The reason why I ask is that on opendarwin.org there is a pro

X11 speed (Was: Re: [Fink-users] What do you guys make of this?)

2003-01-09 Thread Martin Costabel
Martin Costabel wrote: I tested it on an iBook (clam shell, fall 2000, ATI Rage video). There it works, and it is amazingly fast. The hardware acceleration is real. "opengl info" says something about ATI GL libraries. The matlab 3D graphics benchmark is more than 5 times as fast as with the fi

[Fink-users] rsync compatible with hfs?

2003-01-09 Thread Stephan Jaeger
Hiya, I just wonder if someone out there is using the fink version of rsync? The reason why I ask is that on opendarwin.org there is a project called "rsync-hfs" and I would like to know where the difference between these two versions is (if there is any...). I want to use rsync to synchronize

[Fink-users] How to completely remove Fink?

2003-01-09 Thread Maurizio Camagna
A very simple question, but I could not find any help in Fink's docs and searching with Google... I need do give my Mac to another person. I want to remove completely Fink and any application installed with it, leaving the OSX installation exactly as if I've never installed fink. How can I do th

Re: [Fink-users] What do you guys make of this?

2003-01-09 Thread lenny bruce
On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 02:20 AM, Harry Erwin wrote: On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 10:16 PM, S Woodside wrote: On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 04:28 PM, Heidi Shah wrote: PS - Really hoping this doesn't signal the gradual end of Fink. Why would it? Apple's hardly made a "we'll p

Re: [Fink-users] Flabbergasted and Confused but LAUGHING AT TENON (and XonX)

2003-01-09 Thread lenny bruce
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 07:26 PM, Chris Devers wrote: On Tue, 7 Jan 2003, lenny bruce wrote: The Mothership just shot down the greedy criminal racketeering scumbags at Tenon and rendered null and void the silently complicit XonX team. No longer will Mac OS X suffer the handicap of bei

[Fink-users] I solved the Mysterious Apple X11 Path Problem

2003-01-09 Thread lenny bruce
Apple's "X11 for Mac OS X" lives in bash. I was still stuck thinking tcsh-like thoughts. Apple changed the default shell to bash starting in 10.2 but that only applies to NEW USERS, not existing ones. The problem is, regardless of what shell you're using, Apple's "X11 for Mac OS X" lives in bas

[Fink-users] Re: [Fink-devel] compile problems with Apple's X11 installed.

2003-01-09 Thread Martin Costabel
Pejvan BEIGUI wrote: hello everybody, and sorry for the cross-posting, but I didn't knew I don't think crossposting is good in any case. where to ask this question, and I thought it could interest both of lists. So, since i've installed Apple's X11, I cant compile a lot of stuff because of t

[Fink-users] Re: [Fink-devel] compile problems with Apple's X11 installed.

2003-01-09 Thread Pejvan BEIGUI
Justin Hallett wrote: add -lX11 to the link line How do I add this when running a "fink update-all" please ? thanks, Pejvan --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://

Re: [Fink-users] libgl and one other problem

2003-01-09 Thread Martin Costabel
Eric Wright wrote: I noticed that it is recommended to install libgl placeholders in fink. Unfortunately it won't install because it says there is no version. I tried emailing the maintainer but there is no maintainer. So has anyone else had this problem? Maybe someone can fix it? What pro

Re: [Fink-users] Bluefish, Apple X11, and xfree86-threaded?

2003-01-09 Thread Michèle Garoche
Hello Douglas, Le jeudi, 9 jan 2003, à 08:54 Europe/Paris, Douglas Theobald a écrit : OK. Note that this procedure will most certainly change in the future when Apple updates their X11 implementation. Now, this will take some time - maybe 30-60 minutes. Start with this: Install the Apple X11. I

Re: [Fink-users] KDE 3.1 and "harmless" crash reports

2003-01-09 Thread Martin Costabel
Kow K wrote: Since I enabled Crash Report option in Console, I ALWAYS get crash logs related to KDE of the following sort, on X11 and XDarwin, but the programs run successfully. Are those errors just harmless? I get the same. I suspect this is related to the threaded libs kdebase3 was built ag

Re: [Fink-users] Bluefish, Apple X11, and xfree86-threaded?

2003-01-09 Thread Aaron Magill
On Thursday, January 9, 2003, at 01:29 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 11 Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 23:28:57 -0800 Subject: Re: [Fink-users] Bluefish, Apple X11, and xfree86-threaded? Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Douglas Theobald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: Kow K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ...stuff dele