Re: [Firebird-devel] Commits visible in our main page.

2015-03-05 Thread Carlos H. Cantu
I agree that it would help to make people aware that something is happening behind the scenes, but I think the content must be short, for example, showing only the last 5 commits (with its dates, and titles trimmed when need). Clicking in a link could send the visitor the the full sourceforge list

Re: [Firebird-devel] Odp: READ UNCOMMITTED implementation

2015-03-05 Thread Jim Starkey
On Mar 5, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Roman Simakov roman.sima...@gmail.com wrote: 5 марта 2015 г., в 20:26, Jim Starkey j...@jimstarkey.net написал(а): read imaginary» Is it not the same as read uncommited? :) Oh, certainly not! Read imaginary invents whole new record(s) conforming to the

Re: [Firebird-devel] Commits visible in our main page.

2015-03-05 Thread Dmitry Yemanov
05.03.2015 23:53, Claudio Valderrama C. wrote: People, maybe you're going to say that this would be ugly, but at www.firebirdsql.org after the PROJECT NEWS I would like to see information about latest commits, maybe this whole page inside a frame:

[Firebird-devel] Commits visible in our main page.

2015-03-05 Thread Claudio Valderrama C.
People, maybe you're going to say that this would be ugly, but at www.firebirdsql.org after the PROJECT NEWS I would like to see information about latest commits, maybe this whole page inside a frame: http://sourceforge.net/p/firebird/code/commit_browser While some readers may feel it's too

Re: [Firebird-devel] Commits visible in our main page.

2015-03-05 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov
05.03.2015 21:21, Carlos H. Cantu wrote: I think the content must be short, for example, showing only the last 5 commits (with its dates, and titles trimmed when need). May be something like SF statistics XX commits last week could be enough?.. -- WBR, SD.

Re: [Firebird-devel] Commits visible in our main page.

2015-03-05 Thread Carlos H. Cantu
DSMay be something like SF statistics XX commits last week could be enough?.. Looks good too. I think the web designer may decide what fits better the currently layout. []s Carlos http://www.firebirdnews.org FireBase - http://www.FireBase.com.br

Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.

2015-03-05 Thread Paul Beach
The IPL license hosted on IBPhoenix was the license originally used, i.e. we hosted the original license that the InterBase code was released with (as Ann and I devised it). If I remember rightly the Inprise license was slightly modified after release. We also hosted the IDPL license

Re: [Firebird-devel] Firebird 3 API demo usage with Pascal

2015-03-05 Thread Simonov Denis
Adriano dos Santos Fernandes adrian...@gmail.com писал(а) в своём письме Thu, 05 Mar 2015 17:53:08 +0300: Thank You. Very interesting. Another would like to see will look like on UDR FreePascal. Hi! I just build an example of Firebird 3 API usage with FreePascal.

Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.

2015-03-05 Thread Ann Harrison
I wrote: My recollection is that the IPL was worked out among Paul, me, Dale Fuller, and a few others. The original Mozilla licenses gave ownership rights to Netscape. We changed it to Inprise and its successors. When Firebird launched as an independent entity, we (same crowd, minus

Re: [Firebird-devel] Odp: READ UNCOMMITTED implementation

2015-03-05 Thread Jim Starkey
On Mar 5, 2015, at 1:04 PM, Ann Harrison aharri...@nimbusdb.com wrote: On Mar 5, 2015, at 11:26 AM, liviusliv...@poczta.onet.pl liviusliv...@poczta.onet.pl wrote: Hi, It is usefull for testing purposes. Consider monitoring what actually is in some table from other connection or

Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.

2015-03-05 Thread Ann Harrison
On Mar 5, 2015, at 8:38 AM, marius adrian popa map...@gmail.com wrote: Ok understand , What i ask is that new code to be under MPL 2.0 without any changes to the license text like they did in the libreoffice case http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/tree/COPYING.MPL This will

Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.

2015-03-05 Thread Helen Borrie
At 09:16 p.m. 5/03/2015, marius adrian popa wrote: While there can we upgrade the license to mpl2 ? No. The source code we used for Firebird is licensed under MPL v.1.0. *That* version of the source code, *that* version of the MPL. Helen

Re: [Firebird-devel] Odp: READ UNCOMMITTED implementation

2015-03-05 Thread Ann Harrison
On Mar 5, 2015, at 11:26 AM, liviusliv...@poczta.onet.pl liviusliv...@poczta.onet.pl wrote: Hi, It is usefull for testing purposes. Consider monitoring what actually is in some table from other connection or software before some long task has finished. Nothing is in a table until

Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.

2015-03-05 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov
05.03.2015 17:49, Paul Beach wrote: I wasn't arguing about it - just pointing out some historical facts that were valid at some time in the past. So do I. I'm sorry if it looked like an offense. -- WBR, SD. --

Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.

2015-03-05 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov
05.03.2015 16:09, Dmitry Yemanov wrote: Huh? We are talking about sources (particularly headers), no?.. -- WBR, SD. -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and

Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.

2015-03-05 Thread Ann Harrison
On Mar 5, 2015, at 12:07 PM, Paul Beach pbe...@ibphoenix.com wrote: 05.03.2015 16:13, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: We are talking about sources (particularly headers), no?.. I mean that if you are going to update headers to a new license URL, it would be better if it is official

Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.

2015-03-05 Thread marius adrian popa
I'm thinking about the Firebird Initial Developer's Public License (based on MPL v1.1) For old headers still with old license we can incoporate them this way https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Re-Basing#What_does_your_license_header_look_like_.3F On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:33 AM,

Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.

2015-03-05 Thread Adriano dos Santos Fernandes
On 05/03/2015 11:57, Leyne, Sean wrote: 05.03.2015 15:19, Leyne, Sean wrote: The fact that Inprise/Borland/embarcadero have not maintained the URL location is not our problem. What's the problem with broken IBPhoenix URL then?.. There is none with changing that -- the IDPL is a 'product'

Re: [Firebird-devel] Firebird 3 API demo usage with Pascal

2015-03-05 Thread Adriano dos Santos Fernandes
On 05/03/2015 12:37, Alex Peshkoff wrote: On 03/05/15 18:23, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: On 05/03/2015 11:53, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: The others things seems ok and easy to use. We need some new functions in the new API, for example, to convert status vectors to strings,

Re: [Firebird-devel] Firebird 3 API demo usage with Pascal

2015-03-05 Thread Alex Peshkoff
On 03/05/15 18:23, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: On 05/03/2015 11:53, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: The others things seems ok and easy to use. We need some new functions in the new API, for example, to convert status vectors to strings, but this is not specific to pascal.

Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.

2015-03-05 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov
05.03.2015 16:13, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: We are talking about sources (particularly headers), no?.. I mean that if you are going to update headers to a new license URL, it would be better if it is official project's site URL, not IBPhoenix one. -- WBR, SD.

Re: [Firebird-devel] Firebird 3 API demo usage with Pascal

2015-03-05 Thread Adriano dos Santos Fernandes
On 05/03/2015 11:53, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: The others things seems ok and easy to use. We need some new functions in the new API, for example, to convert status vectors to strings, but this is not specific to pascal. Also, we have a half new API. To much constants come from

[Firebird-devel] Odp: READ UNCOMMITTED implementation

2015-03-05 Thread liviusliv...@poczta.onet.pl
Hi, It is usefull for testing purposes. Consider monitoring what actually is in some table from other connection or software before some long task has finished. Regards, Karol Bieniaszewski - Reply message - Od: Mark Rotteveel m...@lawinegevaar.nl Do: For discussion among Firebird

Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.

2015-03-05 Thread Paul Beach
05.03.2015 16:13, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: We are talking about sources (particularly headers), no?.. I mean that if you are going to update headers to a new license URL, it would be better if it is official project's site URL, not IBPhoenix one. The IPL license hosted on IBPhoenix was

Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.

2015-03-05 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov
05.03.2015 17:07, Paul Beach wrote: The IPL license hosted on IBPhoenix was the license originally used, i.e. we hosted the original license that the InterBase code was released with (as Ann and I devised it). If I remember rightly the Inprise license was slightly modified after release.

Re: [Firebird-devel] Odp: READ UNCOMMITTED implementation

2015-03-05 Thread Roman Simakov
5 марта 2015 г., в 20:26, Jim Starkey j...@jimstarkey.net написал(а): read imaginary» Is it not the same as read uncommited? :) -- Roman Simakov -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel

Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.

2015-03-05 Thread marius adrian popa
Ok understand , What i ask is that new code to be under MPL 2.0 without any changes to the license text like they did in the libreoffice case http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/tree/COPYING.MPL This will simplify the license understanding (no more idpl/ipl license text forks of mpl

Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.

2015-03-05 Thread Dmitry Yemanov
05.03.2015 15:38, marius adrian popa wrote: Ok understand, what i ask is that new code to be under MPL 2.0 What is our benefit? This will simplify the license understanding Nope, it will only complicate understanding. Old modules have to remain IPLed/IDPLed, so actually we'll be claiming

Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.

2015-03-05 Thread Jim Starkey
I don't think you can change the license for modules from individuals without their permission. Vulcan modules explicitly forbid a change of license. Jim Starkey On Mar 5, 2015, at 4:16 AM, marius adrian popa map...@gmail.com wrote: While there can we upgrade the license to mpl2 ?

Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.

2015-03-05 Thread supp...@ibknowledgebase.com
Hi, http://www.firebirdsql.org/en/licensing/ Regards, Alexey People, http://www.ibphoenix.com/main.nfs?a=ibphoenixpage=ibp_idpl. is pointing to nothing. We need to update the files in the repository to point to the right location of the license or please suggest an alternative. I think

Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.

2015-03-05 Thread Leyne, Sean
Plese do and fix the urls While there please replace the inprise.com with firebirdsql.org license location Absolutely not!!! The original license must remain untouched, we did not create the original files, we cannot change the license statement. The fact that Inprise/Borland/embarcadero

[Firebird-devel] Firebird 3 API demo usage with Pascal

2015-03-05 Thread Adriano dos Santos Fernandes
Hi! I just build an example of Firebird 3 API usage with FreePascal. https://github.com/asfernandes/fbstuff/blob/db56fa93850a70c473362296df12a95c7494a7dc/src/pascal/FbApiTest.dpr As said early, working with input/output buffers directly in non-C/C++ is difficult. This requires auxiliary

Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.

2015-03-05 Thread Leyne, Sean
05.03.2015 15:19, Leyne, Sean wrote: The fact that Inprise/Borland/embarcadero have not maintained the URL location is not our problem. What's the problem with broken IBPhoenix URL then?.. There is none with changing that -- the IDPL is a 'product' of the project, as such it can be

Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.

2015-03-05 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov
05.03.2015 15:57, Leyne, Sean wrote: There is none with changing that -- the IDPL is a 'product' of the project, as such it can be changed. I just wonder why this product is on third-party site instead of firebirdsql.org. -- WBR, SD.

Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.

2015-03-05 Thread Dmitry Yemanov
05.03.2015 18:03, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: I just wonder why this product is on third-party site instead of firebirdsql.org. Huh? http://www.firebirdsql.org/en/initial-developer-s-public-license-version-1-0 Dmitry