Re: [Firebird-devel] Firebird 3, time to rename conflict names ?

2012-11-17 Thread Paul Reeves
On Saturday 17 Nov 2012 09:21:22 marius adrian popa wrote: I agree on ubuntu i have isql-fb and is a lot faster to type than isql_fb I guess it depends on the keyboard layout, too. Most important is to have a common and consistent prefix, I think. Especially in environments with tabbed

Re: [Firebird-devel] Firebird 3, time to rename conflict names ?

2012-11-17 Thread Mark Rotteveel
On 17-11-2012 00:34, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: Why do use underlines when fb alone is a good prefix (that don't mess with the next word)? Agreed. A prefix is fine, but I don't think it needs a separator. If we do want a separator, I have to say that I don't like an underline as a

Re: [Firebird-devel] Firebird 3, time to rename conflict names ?

2012-11-17 Thread Mark Rotteveel
On 16-11-2012 20:23, Philippe Makowski wrote: Hi all, we have some binaries that have conflict name with other products : isql (UNIX-ODBC) and gstat (Ganglia) may be Firebird 3 is the good time frame to rename our binaries ? for example : fb_sql, fb_bak, fb_sec, fb_fix, fb_stat,

Re: [Firebird-devel] Firebird 3, time to rename conflict names ?

2012-11-17 Thread Dmitry Yemanov
16.11.2012 23:38, Leyne, Sean wrote: may be Firebird 3 is the good time frame to rename our binaries ? for example : fb_sql, fb_bak, fb_sec, fb_fix, fb_stat, fb_nbackup, fb_qli, fb_pre, fb_split, fb_qli Basically, I agree with a new (and consistent) prefix. Personally, I'd rather prefer

Re: [Firebird-devel] Firebird 3, time to rename conflict names ?

2012-11-17 Thread marius adrian popa
Redirects and FAQs can be refreshed , Memory can be refreshed Documentation can be updated , we can't live in the ib 1.0 - 4.0 era forever symlinks can be created at install times for oldtimers Times changed from the Vax years and people request up to date documentation and majority use a gui

Re: [Firebird-devel] Firebird 3, time to rename conflict names ?

2012-11-17 Thread Mark Rotteveel
On 17-11-2012 09:47, marius adrian popa wrote: Redirects and FAQs can be refreshed , Memory can be refreshed Documentation can be updated , we can't live in the ib 1.0 - 4.0 era forever symlinks can be created at install times for oldtimers Times changed from the Vax years and people request

Re: [Firebird-devel] Firebird 3, time to rename conflict names ?

2012-11-17 Thread Philippe Makowski
Dmitry Yemanov [2012-11-17 09:36] : 16.11.2012 23:38, Leyne, Sean wrote: may be Firebird 3 is the good time frame to rename our binaries ? for example : fb_sql, fb_bak, fb_sec, fb_fix, fb_stat, fb_nbackup, fb_qli, fb_pre, fb_split, fb_qli Basically, I agree with a new (and consistent)

Re: [Firebird-devel] Firebird 3, time to rename conflict names ?

2012-11-17 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov
17.11.2012 10:54, Philippe Makowski wrote: fbsql conflict with others products Not quite so. These other products have file extensions. -- WBR, SD. -- Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from

Re: [Firebird-devel] Firebird 3, time to rename conflict names ?

2012-11-17 Thread Lester Caine
Mark Rotteveel wrote: On 17-11-2012 09:47, marius adrian popa wrote: Redirects and FAQs can be refreshed , Memory can be refreshed Documentation can be updated , we can't live in the ib 1.0 - 4.0 era forever symlinks can be created at install times for oldtimers Times changed from the Vax

Re: [Firebird-devel] Firebird 3, time to rename conflict names ?

2012-11-17 Thread Philippe Makowski
Dimitry Sibiryakov [2012-11-17 11:06] : 17.11.2012 10:54, Philippe Makowski wrote: fbsql conflict with others products Not quite so. These other products have file extensions. yes you are right -- Monitor your

Re: [Firebird-devel] Firebird 3, time to rename conflict names ?

2012-11-17 Thread Nando Dessena
I'd suggest that new tool names come with a new set of revised switches, and that a compatibility layer be developed (tools with old names switches that call the new ones). Ciao -- Nando Dessena -- Monitor your

Re: [Firebird-devel] Firebird 3, time to rename conflict names ?

2012-11-17 Thread Adriano dos Santos Fernandes
On 17-11-2012 09:52, Nando Dessena wrote: I'd suggest that new tool names come with a new set of revised switches, and that a compatibility layer be developed (tools with old names switches that call the new ones). I'm totally if favor of this and manifest it a long time ago when that

Re: [Firebird-devel] Firebird 3, time to rename conflict names ?

2012-11-17 Thread Damyan Ivanov
-=| Philippe Makowski, 17.11.2012 10:48:19 +0100 |=- it could be then fb-sql, fb-dump, fb-security, fb-fixup, fb-stat, fb-backup, fb-qli, fb-preprocess, fb-split, fb-qli or fb_sql, fb_dump, fb_security, fb_fixup, fb_stat, fb_backup, fb_qli, fb_preprocess, fb_split, fb_qli PS

Re: [Firebird-devel] Firebird 3, time to rename conflict names ?

2012-11-17 Thread Philippe Makowski
Ted Miglautsch [2012-11-17 13:40] : Instead of changing fb's command name maybe we should make them change their command names. :) no way, too late, and even worst, isql from Firebird is not isql from Interbase for example we have to change ours, like we changed from gsd32 to fbclient.