Re: Re: [firebird-support] Schema pluses?

2016-06-15 Thread liviuslivius liviusliv...@poczta.onet.pl [firebird-support]
Hello Karol, Thursday, June 16, 2016, 7:49:06 AM, you wrote: > > but this feature is considered for FB4 – then i need to know why this is > important feature.. > This whole topic is off-topic in firebird-support, which is about current releases. However, I'm sure others (including me) are

Re: [firebird-support] Re: Schema pluses?

2016-06-15 Thread liviuslivius liviusliv...@poczta.onet.pl [firebird-support]
>>In this case, user1 does not know about user2. They live in two parallel  >>universes. >>Dmitry Then i do not know who can take risk that user1 in one "universe" (product) at present day have e.g. two schemas and user2 have onother schema  and in the future user2 take decision to create another

Re: [firebird-support] Re: Schema pluses?

2016-06-15 Thread liviuslivius liviusliv...@poczta.onet.pl [firebird-support]
  Ok i then misunderstand some discussion obout increasing length of identifiers to support then schemas Now i understand that this is only minor preparation   regards, karol Bieniaszewski       W dniu 2016-06-15 23:36:56 użytkownik Dmitry Yemanov dim...@users.sourceforge.net [firebird-support]

Re: [firebird-support] Schema pluses?

2016-06-15 Thread Helen Borrie hele...@iinet.net.au [firebird-support]
Hello Karol, Thursday, June 16, 2016, 7:49:06 AM, you wrote: > > but this feature is considered for FB4 – then i need to know why this is > important feature.. > This whole topic is off-topic in firebird-support, which is about current releases. However, I'm sure others (including me) are

[firebird-support] Re: Schema pluses?

2016-06-15 Thread Dmitry Yemanov dim...@users.sourceforge.net [firebird-support]
15.06.2016 22:48, 'livius' wrote: > > we can write sql like > select * from table_name but really this is > select * from schema.table_name > and if i write this in stored procedure – i suppose that “object_id” > will be stored in blr(when schemas will be avaiable) BLR will contain

[firebird-support] Re: Schema pluses?

2016-06-15 Thread Dmitry Yemanov dim...@users.sourceforge.net [firebird-support]
15.06.2016 22:49, 'livius' wrote: > > but this feature is considered for FB4 No, it's not. At least not for v4. Dmitry

Re: [firebird-support] Schema pluses?

2016-06-15 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov s...@ibphoenix.com [firebird-support]
15.06.2016 21:49, 'livius' liviusliv...@poczta.onet.pl [firebird-support] wrote: > i need to know why this is important feature.. It is good from marketing POV. Biggest competitors have them, no matter what for. -- WBR, SD.

Re: [firebird-support] Schema pluses?

2016-06-15 Thread 'livius' liviusliv...@poczta.onet.pl [firebird-support]
Hi, but this feature is considered for FB4 – then i need to know why this is important feature.. regards, Karol Bieniaszewski From: mailto:firebird-support@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 4:16 PM To: firebird-support@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [firebird-support] Schema

Re: [firebird-support] Re: Schema pluses?

2016-06-15 Thread 'livius' liviusliv...@poczta.onet.pl [firebird-support]
Hi, thank you Dmitry – the last sentens show me some benefits other sentenses show only complications for me. we can write sql like select * from table_name but really this is select * from schema.table_name and if i write this in stored procedure – i suppose that “object_id” will be stored in

Re: [firebird-support] performance issue with firebird 3.0 embedded on linux

2016-06-15 Thread 'livius' liviusliv...@poczta.onet.pl [firebird-support]
Hi, do you mean that you share one connection between multiple threads? regards, Karol Bieniaszewski From: mailto:firebird-support@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 5:55 PM To: firebird-support@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [firebird-support] performance issue with firebird 3.0

Re: [firebird-support] Engine12 mistery

2016-06-15 Thread Ann Harrison aharri...@ibphoenix.com [firebird-support]
The way I think of the Y-valve* is that the stem of the Y is the client - whether the normal fbclient or the Java client or other language specific clients. The connection request goes from the client to a provider. Right now, the providers are Remote (which may be built into the Y-valve) and

Re: [firebird-support] Case and Accent insensitive compares

2016-06-15 Thread Paul Vinkenoog p...@vinkenoog.nl [firebird-support]
Hello Stefan, > I expect that an accent insensitive compare treats accented characters > as the "same" as their un-accented counterparts because the accent > does not change the character itself but things like pronounciation or > stress. > > So in Frech, à is similar to a, é is similar to è and

RE: [firebird-support] performance issue with firebird 3.0 embedded on linux

2016-06-15 Thread chen hsu chen...@outlook.com [firebird-support]
Thanks, Helen. Please see my replies inline. I am sure it is not 3.0 specific, 2.5 is the same. and the main issue is scalability, sequential transaction performance is actually pretty good, comparable to ESE store on windows I was comparing firebird against. but when running multiple

[firebird-support] Case and Accent insensitive compares

2016-06-15 Thread Stefan Heymann li...@stefanheymann.de [firebird-support]
I expect that an accent insensitive compare treats accented characters as the "same" as their un-accented counterparts because the accent does not change the character itself but things like pronounciation or stress. So in Frech, à is similar to a, é is similar to è and you use an accent

Re: [firebird-support] Schema pluses?

2016-06-15 Thread Gabriel Frones grfro...@gmail.com [firebird-support]
Firebird has no support for schemas, IIRC... or am I missing something? Em dom, 12 de jun de 2016 às 18:18, 'livius' liviusliv...@poczta.onet.pl [firebird-support] escreveu: > > > Hi, > > what are + and – with working with schema? > What benefits are between >

[firebird-support] Re: Schema pluses?

2016-06-15 Thread Dmitry Yemanov dim...@users.sourceforge.net [firebird-support]
13.06.2016 00:18, 'livius' wrote: > > what are + and – with working with schema? > What benefits are between > schema_name__table_name and real schema implementation? > schema_name.table_name Ability to have a default schema (per user, per connection). So that you may have multiple completely

[firebird-support] Re: Schema pluses?

2016-06-15 Thread liviuslivius liviusliv...@poczta.onet.pl [firebird-support]
Hi,   anybody?   regars, Karol Bieniaszewski   W dniu 2016-06-12 23:18:15 użytkownik livius napisał: Hi,   what are + and – with working with schema? What benefits are between schema_name__table_name and real schema implementation? schema_name.table_name   I near to

Re: [firebird-support] Engine12 mistery

2016-06-15 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov s...@ibphoenix.com [firebird-support]
15.06.2016 14:19, fabia...@itbizolutions.com.au [firebird-support] wrote: > When I omit Engine12 from the provider's list at the server's config, to > ensure the server > always acts as a super server This way you ensured that server cannot work with databases at all. I.e. it cannot work as

Re: [firebird-support] Engine12 mistery

2016-06-15 Thread fabia...@itbizolutions.com.au [firebird-support]
Dimitry > No. Y-valve is fbclient.dll. It loads providers as configured. If you don't > need to > work with databases directly, you can omit Engine from list of providers. > Firebird server (fbserver.exe) uses fbclient.dll the same way as any other > application mmm, now we are back to my

Re: [firebird-support] Engine12 mistery

2016-06-15 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov s...@ibphoenix.com [firebird-support]
14.06.2016 22:46, fabia...@itbizolutions.com.au [firebird-support] wrote: > It seems Engine12 is not the same "type of component" as the other Providers. > In the > documentation it is refered as a Y valve, if I understand it correctly > Engine12 is the > base of the Y, while the other providers

Re: [firebird-support] performance issue with firebird 3.0 embedded on linux

2016-06-15 Thread Helen Borrie hele...@iinet.net.au [firebird-support]
Wednesday, June 15, 2016, 5:58:39 PM, Karol B. wrote: > test without details say nothing to me > 1. Did you compare results with e.g. FB2.5 in on the same maschine with same > configuration (FBConfig) > 2. What is your page size and type of HDD? > 3. Do you have BOST feature enabled on CPU and