Re: [Fis] some notes

2017-11-17 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
On communication: "Communication" needs to be more carefully distinguished from mere transfer of physical differences from location to location and time to time. Indeed, any physical transfer of physical differences in this respect can be utilized to communicate, and all communication requires

[Fis] R: Re: some notes

2017-11-17 Thread tozziart...@libero.it
Dear Sungchul, I do not have anything against you, therefore sorry for my words, but your propositions gave me the opportunity to demonstrate the weirdness of such approaches for science. YOU find it convenient to define communication as an irreducibly triadic process (physical, chemical,

Re: [Fis] some notes

2017-11-17 Thread Sungchul Ji
Hi FISers, I find it convenient to define communication as an irreducibly triadic process (physical, chemical, biological, physiological, or mental). I identify such a triadic process with the Peircean semiosis (or the sign process) often represented as the following diagram which is

Re: [Fis] I do not understand some strange claims

2017-11-17 Thread Stanley N Salthe
Jesse, Arturo -- Science is necessarily culture-laden in being motivated and supported by the interests of the culture affording it. The observer cannot escape itself nor its position in the world of possibility. The information sought by scientific means is already implicit in the initiation of

Re: [Fis] some notes

2017-11-17 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
Dear Pedro and colleagues, 2. Eigenvectors of communication. Taking the motif from Loet, and continuing with the above, could we say that the life cycle itself establishes the eigenvectors of communication? It is intriguing that maintenance, persistence, self-propagation are the essential

[Fis] R: Re: I do not understand some strange claims

2017-11-17 Thread tozziart...@libero.it
Dear Jesse, do not think that scientists are so dumb in philosophy and epistemological issue as you might imagine... To quote the relativist and strumentalis accounts, I read the theories of Feyerabend, Kuhn, Popper, van Frassen, Benacerraf, Laudan, Brigdman, the same Quine, but also of

[Fis] Wishful Thinking Reflected in the Sumerian Concept of Numbers

2017-11-17 Thread Karl Javorszky
Wishful Thinking Reflected in the Sumerian Concept of Numbers 1) Introduction To be better prepared to understand the roots of our numbering conventions, we have proposed to re-imagine the intellectual innovations achieved by the Sumerians, while they introduced the concept of positional

Re: [Fis] I do not understand some strange claims

2017-11-17 Thread Jesse David Dinneen
Dear Arturo (and greetings to everybody), Just a few more reasons to be wary of dismissing concepts and thinking that science is free of them: The position you are promoting constitutes a pop view (sometimes called the received view or naive view) of science, in which empirical items (e.g.,