Re: [Fis] Is information physical? A logical analysis

2018-05-25 Thread Christophe Menant
Dear Soren, What I try to say is that the Piercean triadic pragmatic semiotics includes ‘meaning’ as generated by the Interpreter but does not tell much about the nature of that meaning. And this lack makes difficult to adress questions like: what is the reason of being of a meaning?, what can

[Fis] Abiding by the rule

2018-05-25 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Participants are reminded about the limit of two messages per week--those not abiding are sanctioned offline. Best--Pedro - Pedro C. Marijuán Grupo de Bioinformación / Bioinformation Group pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es

Re: [Fis] Is information physical? A logical analysis

2018-05-25 Thread Søren Brier
Dear Christoph I am not sure what you mean. In my understanding the important dynamics in Peirce's pragmaticist semiotics is that symbols grow and create habits in a web of signs in nature as well as in culture viewing the central dynamic process in the cosmos as well as man to be of symbolic

Re: [Fis] Is information physical? A logical analysis

2018-05-25 Thread Mark Johnson
Dear Søren I have been interested in Peirce for a long time, but while I've found it an interesting explanatory framework, I've tended to not find it as practically useful as other (cybernetic) ways of thinking. I'm puzzled by this: I think the problem might have something to do with the

Re: [Fis] Is information physical? A logical analysis

2018-05-25 Thread Christophe Menant
Dear Soren, You are right to recall that a transdisciplinary theory of cognition and communication has to include meaning. But I’m not sure that the Peircean approach is enough for that. The triad (Object, Sign, Interpretant) positions the Interpretant as being the meaning of the Sign created