[Fis] Msg From Joe Brenner, Re: reactions to ...

2008-07-21 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear Colleagues and Friends, Pedro's conclusion, which I bring up from the bottom, is, I feel, a good starting point for further reflections. Somehow we are returning to the beginning of the discussion. I defend that the limitations of the individual are crucial for the structures and

Re: [Fis] Msg From Joe Brenner, Re: reactions to ...

2008-07-21 Thread Robert Ulanowicz
As Ladyman and Ross write, in the book that I learned about in this group, we radically need to change our metaphysics about what a thing is, or rather is not, and what patterns can be understood as the active entities of both knowledge and existence. It wasn't clear to me whether this was Joe or