[Fis] Re: info meaning

2007-10-15 Thread Giuseppe Longo
On Sunday 14 October 2007, mjs wrote: If information is not physical, and therefore governed by physical principles, then what is its ontological status? why any scientific notion should have a physical ontological status? the issue is never ontological, but just theoretical: which theory, with

Re: [Fis] Re: info meaning

2007-10-15 Thread Guy A Hoelzer
Dear Giuseppe et al., I find the issues of meaning and interpretation very interesting, but I think this FIS discussion needs to find some common ground if we are to get anywhere. For example, Giuseppe wrote: There is no purely physical status of information, since a physical structure yields

Re: [Fis] Re: info meaning

2007-10-03 Thread Steven Ericsson-Zenith
I have to confess that I have not yet had the time to review the paper that opened this session. Metaphors aside, what you have described here is consistent with information theory, is it not? Except that you have not defined meaning. In particular, you do not suggest how a meaning might

Re: [Fis] Re: info meaning

2007-10-02 Thread Pedro Marijuan
Dear colleagues, Answering to a couple of Jerry's questions, Under what circumstances can the speaker's meaning or the writer's meaning be _exact_? Is _meaning_ a momentary impulse with potential for settling into a local minimum in the biochemical dynamic? A previous point could

Re: [Fis] Re: info meaning

2007-10-02 Thread Guy A Hoelzer
Greetings All, In my view Œmeaning¹ exists (or not) exclusively within systems. It exists to the extent that inputs (incoming information) resonate within the structure of the system. The resonance can either reinforce the existing architecture (confirmation), destabilize it (e.g., cognitive

Re: [Fis] Re: info meaning

2007-10-02 Thread Stanley N. Salthe
Here I react to Guy's Greetings All, In my view meaning  exists (or not) exclusively within systems. It exists to the extent that inputs (incoming information) resonate within the structure of the system. The resonance can either reinforce the existing architecture (confirmation),

SV: [Fis] Re: info meaning

2007-10-02 Thread Søren Brier
forthcoming at UTP http://www.utppublishing.com/pubstore/merchant.ihtml?pid=8894lastcatid=116; step=4 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne af Stanley N. Salthe Sendt: 2. oktober 2007 22:25 Til: fis@listas.unizar.es Emne: Re: [Fis] Re: info meaning