Re: [Fis] INTELLIGENCE & INFORMATION (by Y.X.Zhong)

2010-11-13 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
Dear Colleagues, Relating information with intelligence seems to me important for several reasons. I will try to suggest that intelligence might be a good conceptual tool if we want to anchor our understanding of information and knowledge in the natural world. Yixin mentions the problem of thr

Re: [Fis] INTELLIGENCE & INFORMATION (by Y.X.Zhong)

2010-11-13 Thread Stanley N Salthe
Concerning: >The minimal claim would be that there is no intelligence without information. For an agent, intelligence is the ability to face the >world in a meaningful way and it increases with the number of different ways an agent is able to respond with. It seems to me that this implies, in a

Re: [Fis] INTELLIGENCE & INFORMATION (by Y.X.Zhong)

2010-11-13 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
I suppose semioticians are interested in an individual human's sense-making in a context of human society. Or perhaps a social animal's sense making. What I think about is how life forms organize to produce increasingly complex patterns of information processing. Gordana From: fis-boun...@lista

Re: [Fis] INTELLIGENCE & INFORMATION (by Y.X.Zhong)

2010-11-13 Thread Jacob Lee
Kumiko Tanaka-Ishii has recently written an excellent little book, The Semiotics of Programming, which may be of interest in connecting semiosis with machine-like processes like that of computation. http://books.google.com/books?id=irizHa1MXJoC&source=gbs_navlinks_s Best, Jacob On 11/13/2010

Re: [Fis] INTELLIGENCE & INFORMATION (by Y.X.Zhong)

2010-11-13 Thread Stanley N Salthe
Gordana -- Interpretation of information builds more information, which again becomes interpreted. In living systems each generation makes a new interpretation based upon changed conditions of life. But in this case there is not more (genetic) information, but rather recently altered information

Re: [Fis] fluctuons

2010-11-13 Thread Srinandan Dasmahapatra
Hi, I've been meaning to send a note on Kevin Kirby's brief outline of Conrad's fluction framework, but haven't had the time to compose my thoughts coherently. I realised that I wouldn't really have the time to do so, so I had better send something half-baked along anyway to contribute to

Re: [Fis] fluctuons

2010-11-13 Thread Joseph Brenner
Dear Sri, Thank you for your note, since I was "unhappy" with the point at which the discussion seemed to end. Your perspective on the structure of living organisms seems quite pertinent to the theme of information processes. It is clearly related to Kaufmann-Logan "biotic" information. Howeve