Re: [Fis] [Fwd: Re: Information is a linguistic description of structures]--T...

2015-10-01 Thread Mark Johnson
Dear Loet and colleagues, I wonder if an alternative view is possible: that the symbolic codification of the sciences inherent in discourse and supported by our universities (as they are currently constituted) is a constraint which prevents us exploring a proper science of constraint. To overcome

Re: [Fis] [Fwd: Re: Information is a linguistic description of structures]--T...

2015-10-01 Thread Stanley N Salthe
Loet wrote: I suggest to distinguish between three levels (following Weaver): A. (Shannon-type) information processing ; B. meaning sharing using languages; C. translations among coded communications. So, here we have a subsumptive hierarchy" {reduction of possibilities {interpretation

Re: [Fis] [Fwd: Re: Information is a linguistic description of structures]--T...

2015-10-01 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
-Original Message- From: Robert E. Ulanowicz [mailto:u...@umces.edu] Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 7:11 PM To: Mark Johnson; Loet Leydesdorff Cc: Robert Ulanowicz Subject: Re: [Fis] [Fwd: Re: Information is a linguistic description of structures]--T... Dear Mark & Loet, What

Re: [Fis] [Fwd: Re: Information is a linguistic description of structures]--T...

2015-10-01 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
in other words, it's time we confess in science just how little we know about language, that we explore language's mysteries, and that we use our discoveries as a crowbar to pry open the secrets of this highly contextual, deeply relational, profoundly communicational cosmos. Dear colleagues,