Re: [Fis] Information: a metaphysical word

Hi FISers, I wonder some of he controversies surrounding information can be traced to conflating TYPE and TOKENS. For example, apples and oranges (tokens) are not the same but they are all species of the fruit (type). Likewise the information exchanged among non-living systems like comput

[Fis] Experimental verification of an indefinite causal order

Experimental verification of an indefinite causal order "Investigating the role of causal order in quantum mechanics has recently revealed that the causal relations of events may not be a priori well defined in quantum theory. Although this has triggered a growing interest on the theoretical side,

Re: [Fis] Information: a metaphysical word

Dear Arturo, I am less pessimistic than you about treating and measuring information. First off, that information is always relative is the obverse of the third law of thermodynamics. It cannot be otherwise. Secondly, you are correct that there

Re: [Fis] non-living objects COULD NOT “exchange information”

On 24/03/17 18:24, Karl Javorszky wrote: 1) Let me second to the point Alex raises: machines, computers, do exchange information. It would be against cultural conventions to say that the notification that the refrigerator sends to your phone's app "to-do-list" of the content "milk only 0.5 li

Re: [Fis] Information: a metaphysical word

Everybody defines information in the way he prefers: subjective, biotic, bit, and so on. Therefore, every study that talks about "information" is meaningless. Dear Arturo, The “Therefore” does not follow. It is a non-igitur. For example, Shannon’s information theory is not necessarily meaning

Re: [Fis] Information: a metaphysical word

Caro Arturo e cari colleghi, come si fa ad escludere dal campo della conoscenza scientifica la parola-concetto (di) INFORMAZIONE, se tutto ciò che esiste in cielo, in terra e in ogni altro luogo è causa ed effetto di un processo che dà o prende (in termini neg-entropici o anabolici)) e degrada o pe

[Fis] Information: a metaphysical word

Dear FISers, The current debate about information has just a possible development, I think. Everybody defines information in the way he prefers: subjective, biotic, bit, and so on. Therefore, every study that talks about "information" is meaningless. In particular, subjective accounts of inform

[Fis] Calculating information content

Calculating information content, example DNA 1) Discussion about beer cans and living objects Information is an abstract concept which can only be entertained in the minds of entities that can deal with abstract concepts, usually humans. The present discussion about whether inanimate objec

[Fis] Can the can drink beer ? - No way! Convenient Fictions

Dear Jesse, Welcome to the group and thank you for your thoughtful presentation of a view of information. I would call this this standard physicalist view and say that while it applies in some simple cases, it does not capture the complex process that is represented by the word 'information'. P