Re: [Fis] Tragedy in France
Michel: Strength and courage in this dark hour! On Sunday we had a big rally is Sao Paulo, in front of the French Consulate, in solidarity for the victims of terror in Paris. Hope to see you soon, Hope to see the lights of the Eiffel tower on again as soon as possible. All the best, ---Julio Stern > Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 18:25:56 +0100 > From: petitjean.chi...@gmail.com > To: pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es > CC: fis@listas.unizar.es > Subject: Re: [Fis] Tragedy in France > > Dear Pedro, dear All, > > Thank you for your kind words. > Alas too many countries are victims of terrorism. > All continents are targetted. > All together we can fight obscurantism and terrorism. > It is not a matter of religion: it is just a very dangerous sect. > Remark: I'm atheist. > > Best regards, > Michel. > > Michel Petitjean > MTi, INSERM UMR-S 973, University Paris 7, > 35 rue Helene Brion, 75205 Paris Cedex 13, France. > Phone: +331 5727 8434; Fax: +331 5727 8372 > E-mail: petitjean.chi...@gmail.com (preferred), > michel.petitj...@univ-paris-diderot.fr > http://petitjeanmichel.free.fr/itoweb.petitjean.html > > 2015-11-17 11:55 GMT+01:00 Pedro C. Marijuan : > > Dear FIS Collegues, > > > > On behalf of the group, let me express our collective condolences to the > > French Colleagues of our list. Civilized words are of little use in front > > of such repulsive, barbaric actions. But in the long term it is the most > > efficient tool. The terrible problem is that it takes generations to > > deflate a terrorist wave, and once it is over, a new one comes in... > > > > Our solidarity with French citizens, > > --Pedro > > > > - > > Pedro C. Marijuán > > Grupo de Bioinformación / Bioinformation Group > > Instituto Aragonés de Ciencias de la Salud > > Centro de Investigación Biomédica de Aragón (CIBA) > > Avda. San Juan Bosco, 13, planta X > > 50009 Zaragoza, Spain > > Tfno. +34 976 71 3526 (& 6818) > > pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es > > http://sites.google.com/site/pedrocmarijuan/ > > - > > > > ___ > > Fis mailing list > > Fis@listas.unizar.es > > http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis > > ___ > Fis mailing list > Fis@listas.unizar.es > http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis ___ Fis mailing list Fis@listas.unizar.es http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis
Re: [Fis] News from Moscow
Dear All: Let me quickly answer some of these points: > it was not exactly a "private party", Pedro, I my personal opinion, it was. FIS spirit is open and democratic. Never before did we organize a conference were people are welcome to attend as "listeners", but presenting a paper is a privilege granted by appointment only. > it was not exactly a "private party", > [because] ...it was officially approved This kind of bureaucratic justification is very shallow. Even if someone has a mandate to do something, he or she is sill accountable by the way he or she exercises power. Moreover, speaking about an "Election" in such a forum chosen by direct appointment (plus a few extra visitors) is an oxymoron. > FIS itself represents a movement (indeed a community > as Julio rightly says, but we badly need the support > of an organization so the binomial arrangement > ISIS-FIS we are following. First, I contest this so called "need". If Michel Petitjean organized an absolutely perfect conference in Paris 2005, FIS being the way it was, why do we now need an organization. Bureaucratic thinking now seems to prevail! > For FIS futures, maintenance of our discussion list is > quite important, autonomously, and open to introduce > any new idea or cooperation. I am glad we can keep an autonomous FIS forum. So far, we did not have had a compete FIS Anschluss. Thanks God! ---Julio Stern > Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 14:35:04 +0200 > From: pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es > To: fis@listas.unizar.es; rdelmoral.i...@aragon.es > Subject: Re: [Fis] News from Moscow > > Dear FIS colleagues, > > In response to Julio's comment, a couple of brief points. First, it was > not exactly a "private party", as in the past conference in Beijing it > was officially approved the realization of FIS 2012 (or 21013) in > Moscow; actually three organizers of past fis events were in the Moscow > conference, as well as a considerable number of Chinese and Russian > members of the list (some of them quite new; that most of these parties > do not post is another matter; we are more than 300 in the list, and > very few are active posters!). Second, the resolutions approved were > basically about ISIS matters. There will be ample information about > that in coming weeks. FIS itself represents a movement (indeed a > community as Julio rightly says) but we badly need the support of an > organization and so the binomial arrangement ISIS-FIS (FIS-ISIS) we are > following. The conference was not really a closed event, all members of > ISIS board (15) were aware about the Moscow event but most of them > failed to attend for either financing or visa problems. Personally I > failed to send early info about the conference (my own management > duties' chaos). I lost almost one month to announce it... sorry about > that. > > Well, this was the background of the "party". It could have been > improved by all sides, of course, but after watching in situ the > complex conditions to hold the conference (awful times everywhere!), I > really appreciate the great work done by the main organizer Konstantin > Kolin and his colleagues, and the support of the Humanitarian > University of Moscow---thanks to all of them!! > > More practical now: about FIS futures. Perspectives are better, as two > countries, Russia and China, are going to provide relevant > institutional support for both ISIS-FIS. The Milton Keynes conference > at the UK, and the great team there, means a new reinforcement in the > common project of info science too. They also manage a prestigious > journal "Kybernetes" where we can send our info sceince > contributions... For FIS futures, maintenance of our discussion list > is quite important, autonomously, and open to introduce any new idea or > cooperation. In order to be able to resume the chaired sessions, that I > am now so unable to organize, let me announce the incorporation of my > collaborator Raquel del Moral to the FIS Secretariat. She is at: > rdelmoral.i...@aragon.es<mailto:rdelmoral.i...@aragon.es> Anyone > interested in organizing future discussion sessions or willing to make > off-list suggestions may write to any of us. > > Finally, our Chinese colleague Wu-Kun of the Xi’an Jiaotong University > is planning an international conference there on the philosophy of > information for next October. I think that FISer Joseph Brenner is also > involved in the event ---hopefully this time info will flow us on time! > > Best wishes to all, > > ---Pedro > > PS. Maintaining the list discipline of two
Re: [Fis] News from Moscow
Pedro writes: > very few people from Western > countries could attend (just 4)... > ... > the discussion of the institutional > aspects we have to cover, particularly > concerning the ISIS organization. As I questioned before, I see no problem in organizing a private party at Moscow. However, I see a big problem in taking this party as the forum in charge of deliberating and able to take important decisions in name of the FIS community. ---Julio Stern > Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 17:07:08 +0200 > From: pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es > To: fis@listas.unizar.es > Subject: [Fis] News from Moscow > > Dear FISers, > > During the past days, 21 -24 May, the 5th FIS & 1st ISIS conference has > taken place in Moscow. As expected, very few people from Western > countries could attend (just 4), but an important Chinese delegation (9) > and a remarkable presence of the Russian Academy of sciences, research > and learning institutions, professional colleges, library science, etc., > made for a very relevant conference. We had intriguing presentations in > biomolecular matters, biological systems organization, neuroscience, > consciousness, socially oriented discussions, educational matters, etc. > as well as criticisms on the current techno-utopian orientations of IT. > The debates on what are the most important directions for info science > development were complemented by the discussion of the institutional > aspects we have to cover, particularly concerning the ISIS organization. > Thanks to Konstantin Colin (past ISIS President) for the excellent > organization work done, with the technical help of a number of parties, > among them Nick, Victoria, Boris, etc. A number of scholars and > researchers of the Organizing Committee and the Program Committee did > also contribute... The challenge now is for Wolfgang Hofkirchner, > elected ISIS President and organizer of 2nd ISIS & 6th FIS in Vienna > 2015 --good luck Wolfgang!! > > At FIS we should continue with our regular discussion sessions, better > organized... there will be news about that soon. Also we will receive > news from ISIS preparations, particularly concerning the organization of > info science research. Robert Jahn, current secretary, is working in > these matters. > > It was a great time in Moscow--best wishes to all > > ---Pedro > > PS. By the way, during these days I had no mail access and could not see > until now (amidst the cloud of several hundred messages) that some FIS > parties have ostensibly ignored the rule of two messages per week, and > indulged in say "personal" styles of discussion. Please, stop that. > > -- > - > Pedro C. Marijuán > Grupo de Bioinformación / Bioinformation Group > Instituto Aragonés de Ciencias de la Salud > Centro de Investigación Biomédica de Aragón (CIBA) > Avda. San Juan Bosco, 13, planta X > 50009 Zaragoza, Spain > Tfno. +34 976 71 3526 (& 6818) > pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es > http://sites.google.com/site/pedrocmarijuan/ > - > > ___ > fis mailing list > fis@listas.unizar.es > https://webmail.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis > ___ fis mailing list fis@listas.unizar.es https://webmail.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis
Re: [Fis] FIS News (Moscow 2013)
A find it very strange to transform the FIS Conference into a private party. Of course anyone can throw a party, but how come is this one now the FIS-2013 Conference ?! ---Julio Stern > At the time being, to my knowledge > (I could not follow very well the process), only the members > of the ISIS board have been enlisted as foreign participants. Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 12:28:45 +0200 To: joe.bren...@bluewin.ch; pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es; fis@listas.unizar.es From: darv...@iif.hu Subject: Re: [Fis] FIS News (Moscow 2013) Dear Pedro, Joe, and all FISers, Great news! As I notified you before, the Symmetry Festival 2013 (Delft, The Netherlands, 2-6 August) http://symmetry.hu/festival2013.html is open and glad to host a FIS symposium on symmetries in information studies. The Festival consists of a series of symposia, and FIS would well fit among them. You are welcome! Best wishes, Gyuri . Symmetry Festival 2013, Delft, 2-7 August Download and print the poster in A3 size, post it at your department, throughout your parent institution, and distribute among colleagues outside. Thank you for your contribution to publicize the event! . A recent publication online: Physical consequences of a new gauge-symmetry and its associated conservation law . Greetings from Budapest __ Gyorgy Darvas E-mail ; Skype: darvasgy; S Y M M E T R I O N Address: 29 Eotvos St., Budapest, H-1067 Hungary Phone: 36 (1) 302-6965; Monograph: Symmetry; Course of lectures on Symmetry, Course of lectures on Interactions in Kinetic Fields and the Conservation of IFCS ___ ___ fis mailing list fis@listas.unizar.es https://webmail.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis ___ fis mailing list fis@listas.unizar.es https://webmail.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis
Re: [Fis] fis Digest, Vol 570, Issue 2
Dear All: I have to agree with Xueshan Yan on that one: In G.Batesson (1979) Mind and Nature: A Necessary Unity NY: Dutton. We find at the Glassary p. 228: > Information: Any difference taht makes a difference. see also Ch.3, Multiple Versions of the World, Sec.1, The Case of Difference. All the best, ---Julio Stern From: lo...@physics.utoronto.ca Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 09:45:54 -0400 To: y...@pku.edu.cn CC: fis@listas.unizar.es Subject: Re: [Fis] fis Digest, Vol 570, Issue 2 Dear Dr. Yan I make reference to the MacKay quote in my article that can be found here: www.mdpi.com/2078-2489/3/1/68/pdf I make reference to Hayles, K. How We Became Posthuman; University of Chicago Press: Chicago, IL, USA, 1999. where you will find an extensive discussion of Donald MacKay's formulation of his definition of information: Information is a distinction that makes a difference–MacKay If you google "Information is a distinction that makes a difference" you will find many more references to this quote. with kind regards - Bob Logan On 2013-04-14, at 4:52 AM, Xueshan Yan wrote:"Information is a distinction that makes a difference" __ Robert K. LoganChief Scientist - sLab at OCADProf. Emeritus - Physics - U. of Toronto www.physics.utoronto.ca/Members/logan ___ fis mailing list fis@listas.unizar.es https://webmail.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis ___ fis mailing list fis@listas.unizar.es https://webmail.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis
[Fis] Quantum Logics and Formalisms
Dear friends, and specialists in the logic(s)
and formalism(s) of Quantum Mechanics:
(The pdf of this LaTeX file was too large
for fis-list, and bounced... )
Following von Foerster, I consider systemic eigen-solutions
as the most basic objects of knowledge.
Therefore, studying the essential properties and the process of
emergence of eigen-solutions in scientific research constitutes
(for me) the foundation of a true constructivist epistemology.
Once upon a time,
I stumble on a result stated in Nosov and Kolmanovskii (1986, p.13):
{\it ``In a recent paper Zubov has considered the problem of
relativistic particle motion in a central field. The equation
of motion of this particle is
\[
m \ddot{r}(t) = -k
\frac{r(t -\tau(r))}{|r(t -\tau(r))|^3} \ .
\]
Here $r$ is a vector joining the particle with the
immovable center. It is known that in such a system
without delay, i.e. for $\tau(r)=0$, a unique circular
orbit passes across every point $(x_0,y_0,z_0)$ of the
configuration space. If we allow for the interaction delay,
then the situation changes qualitatively. The circular orbits
settle on the spheres if and only if their radii verify the
quantization conditions
\[ \nu(|r|) \tau(|r|) = n 2\pi \ \ , \ \
n= 0, \pm 1, \pm 2, \ldots
\]
(These) conditions coincide with Bohr quantization rules.''}
\r V.R.Nosov, V.B.Kolmanovskii (1986).
{\it Stability of Functional Diferential Equations.}
London: Academic Press.
\r V.I.Zubov (1983). {\it Analytical Dynamics of Systems of
Bodies.} Leningrad University.
I found Zubov's result astonishingly beautyfull.
The eigen solutions of Bohr quantization rule where obtained
out of a spherical symmetry constraint, in the formalism
of functional (delay) differential equations.
This formalism was (for me) such more natural and intuitive
than Schr\"{o}dinger equation.
I spend some time trying to get more of the standard
eigen-solutions of QM out of this language.
My knowledge of delayed differential equations is very
limited, so I was not very successful.
I also never had access to Zubov's papers.
Do you know if this line of research had continuation?
Can any of you get me a copy of Zubov's paper(s)
from Leningrad University?
Thank you very much,
Julio Michael Stern.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[Fis] Quantum Mechanics: Logic and Formalisms
Dear friends, and specialists in the logic(s)
and formalism(s) of Quantum Mechanics:
(If you dont have an on line LaTeX compiler,
please read the attached pdf file... )
Following von Foerster, I consider systemic eigen-solutions
as the most basic objects of knowledge.
Therefore, studying the essential properties and the process of
emergence of eigen-solutions in scientific research constitutes
(for me) the foundation of a true constructivist epistemology.
Once upon a time,
I stumble on a result stated in Nosov and Kolmanovskii (1986, p.13):
{\it ``In a recent paper Zubov has considered the problem of
relativistic particle motion in a central field. The equation
of motion of this particle is
\[
m \ddot{r}(t) = -k
\frac{r(t -\tau(r))}{|r(t -\tau(r))|^3} \ .
\]
Here $r$ is a vector joining the particle with the
immovable center. It is known that in such a system
without delay, i.e. for $\tau(r)=0$, a unique circular
orbit passes across every point $(x_0,y_0,z_0)$ of the
configuration space. If we allow for the interaction delay,
then the situation changes qualitatively. The circular orbits
settle on the spheres if and only if their radii verify the
quantization conditions
\[ \nu(|r|) \tau(|r|) = n 2\pi \ \ , \ \
n= 0, \pm 1, \pm 2, \ldots
\]
(These) conditions coincide with Bohr quantization rules.''}
\r V.R.Nosov, V.B.Kolmanovskii (1986).
{\it Stability of Functional Diferential Equations.}
London: Academic Press.
\r V.I.Zubov (1983). {\it Analytical Dynamics of Systems of
Bodies.} Leningrad University.
I found Zubov's result astonishingly beautyfull.
The eigen solutions of Bohr quantization rule where obtained
out of a spherical symmetry constraint, in the formalism
of functional (delay) differential equations.
This formalism was (for me) such more natural and intuitive
than Schr\"{o}dinger equation.
I spend some time trying to get more of the standard
eigen-solutions of QM out of this language.
My knowledge of delayed differential equations is very
limited, so I was not very successful.
I also never had access to Zubov's papers.
Do you know if this line of research had continuation?
Can any of you get me a copy of Zubov's paper(s)
from Leningrad University?
Thank you very much,
Julio Michael Stern.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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