Re: [Fis] Welcome to Knowledge Market and the FIS Sci-coins

2018-04-06 Thread ZouXiaohui
Welcome to our icis2018 in PKU


http://www.intsci.ac.cn/icis2018/cfp.jsp


http://www.intsci.ac.cn/icis2018/committees.jsp


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From: Burgin, Mark 
Date: ,3?? 29,2018 5:11 
To: tozziarturo , fis 
Subject: Re: [Fis] Welcome to Knowledge Market and the FIS Sci-coins



   Dear Arturo,
   Set theory is a particular case of named set theory. If set theory 
solves some problem, then named set theory solves the same problem.   
Use logic and some knowledge and you'll see truth.
   
   Sincerely,
   Mark
 
 On 3/21/2018 11:48 PM,   tozziart...@libero.it wrote:
 
   
Dear Mark, 
   
the named set theory does not solve the Russell paradox.
   
Therefore  it would be better to use, in such approaches, the best 
theory available, i.e., the Fraenkel-Zermelo sets.  
   
In turn, the latter displays some limits: for example, the need of a 
set with infinite elements.  
   
Therefore, set theory is not able to tackle information problems.
   
You have to go back to other mathematical approaches.  
   
  
   
   Il 21 marzo 2018 alle 23.42 "Burgin, Mark" 
 ha scritto: 
 
 Dear Krassimir and other FISers, 
 
 After reading the interesting contribution of Krassimir, I would   
  like to share with you some of my impressions and ideas. 
 
 I like very much the term INFOS suggested by Krassimir. It??s 
possible to suggest that Krassimir assumed the following definition. 
 An INFOS is a system functioning (behavior) of which is 
regulated by information. 
 This definition implies that each INFOS has an information 
processor. 
 Then it is possible to distinguish different categories and 
types of INFOS. For instance: 
  INFOS only with acceptors/receptors 
  INFOS only with effectors 
  INFOS with both acceptors/receptors and effectors 
 Then it is possible to develop an interesting theory of INFOS. 
 
 At the same time, the difference between reality and 
consciousness needs improvement because what many people mean using the 
word reality is actually only one of the variety of realities, namely, 
the physical or material reality, while consciousness is a part of the 
mental reality. It is possible to find more information about different 
realities and their interaction in the book (Burgin, Structural 
Reality, 2012). Please, don??t confuse Structural Reality with virtual 
reality.  
 
 One more issue from the interesting contribution of Krassimir, 
which allows further development, is the structure of a model. Namely, 
the relation (s, e, r) between a model s of an entity r forms not 
simply a triple but a fundamental triad, which is also called a named 
set. 
 
 Why this is important? The reason to conceive the structure (s,
 e, r) as a fundamental triad or a named set is that there is an 
advanced mathematical theory of named sets, the most comprehensive 
exposition of which is in the book (Burgin, Theory of Named Sets, 
2011), and it is possible to use this mathematical theory for studying 
and using models. For instance, the structure from Figure 1 in 
Krassimir??s letter is a morphism of named sets. Named set theory 
describes many properties of such morphism and categories built of 
named sets and their morphism. The structures from Figure 2 in 
Krassimir??s letter are chains of named sets, which are also studied in 
named set theory. 
 
 To conclude it is necessary to understand that if we want to 
apply mathematics in some area it is necessary to use adequate areas of 
mathematics. As Roger Bacon wrote, All science requires mathematics, 
but mathematics provides different devices that are suited to different 
input. In this respect, when you give good quality grains to a 
mathematical mill, it outputs good quality flour, while if you put the 
same grains into a mathematical petrol engine, it outputs trash. 
 
 The theory of named sets might be very useful for information 
studies because named sets and their chains allow adequate reflection 
of information and information processes. 
   
 Sincerely, 
 Mark 
 
 On 3/11/2018 3:34 PM,   Krassimir Markov wrote: 
 


 
  

Re: [Fis] A Paradox

2018-03-19 Thread ZouXiaohui
Dear colleagues


The era of large-scale or big production of knowledge and small-scale or normal 
production of knowledge is about to come. 
Author: Zou Xiaohui Time: 2018-03-19 08:57:37  
 In the age of mobile networks where information and knowledge exponentially 
grows, any one of a small WeChat group and a circle of friends can detonate the 
spiritual world of any individual. This is incredible in ancient times. 
Therefore, it is already lagging behind to rely on the 2,000-year-long 
knowledge production method to do spiritual product processing.The 
double-chessboards based on the wisdom integrated theory and cultural gene 
system engineering practice came into being. Its primary feature is that it is 
a combination of humans and machines that can instantly complete the knowledge 
production of any one knowledge module. The formation and promotion of 
popularity has gradually highlighted its unique charm.For example, any 
text segment imported into the word chessboard web development environment and 
application platform can instantly form almost all the language points, 
knowledge points, and original points contained in the world-wide super 
collaboration of the text segment. . This not only provides the convenience for 
the original creators or experts themselves to confirm their themes, styles, or 
characteristics, but also provides a common platform for teachers, students and 
the general public to participate in the finishing of knowledge modules.
Such a large-scale production of knowledge is supported by the three major 
system engineering practices of language, knowledge, and software. It is a 
brand-new approach to education informatization. At the same time, it provides 
a typical example of collaborative innovation that focuses on the intelligence 
capabilities of human-computer dual-brain intelligence. Both men, women, and 
children can discover from their most interesting speech fragments. Their 
respective real interests, hobbies, and good at, and then used them to 
participate in the integration of teaching and learning of social system 
engineering and the combination of soft and hard language and formal system 
engineering double practice, so as to reflect the three basic categories of 
object-oriented text The generalized textual cultural genetic system project 
contributes meager forces and gradually discovers and finds their precise 
positioning in the overall system of human knowledge building construction. 


 Data, language, information, and knowledge all have intersections. Therefore, 
it is often misunderstood. The text that records knowledge is a typical type of 
data. Obvious ambiguity allows the machine to be automatically ejected; human 
experts are easily ambiguous in their respective fields; the most difficult 
ambiguity is the category of overlapping (basic concepts).


Best wish! 


   Zou Xiaohui



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Date: ,3?? 6,2018 11:20 ????
To: ZouXiaohui <949309...@qq.com>
Cc: ?? <y...@pku.edu.cn>, fis <fis@listas.unizar.es>
Subject: Re: [Fis] A Paradox



 Many thanks Zou. 


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On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 6:35 PM, ZouXiaohui <949309...@qq.com> wrote:
Dear Colleagues and Syed??
  Thank you for your attention!Let me answer your 
questionCould you critique a view: Information is the container of meaning 
?:
 Undoubtedly,the point of view ?? information is the container of meaning?? 
is certainly wrong.
  For first and foremost, phenomenal information is all-encompassing, in 
addition to carriers of mass and energy, which can be anything in the physical 
world, anything in mind, anything in narrow and broad language or generalized 
text. Among them, there is both formal information and content information.   
   Furthermore, looking at ontology information, which is simplified in 
many ways and then focused on the same meaning or content, aims to 
disambiguate. Many people's cognitive errors and misunderstandings come from 
ambiguity.   
  Finally, in fact, and most importantly, the essential information that 
can be calculated by using truth (this is the fundamental object or subject of 
information science). 
 These are Zou Xiaohui's point of view. Please give comments or 
suggestions!
  Thank you! 


  Be

Re: [Fis] A Paradox

2018-03-04 Thread ZouXiaohui
Dear Colleagues and Syed??
  Thank you for your attention!Let me answer your 
questionCould you critique a view: Information is the container of meaning 
?:
 Undoubtedly,the point of view ?? information is the container of meaning?? 
is certainly wrong.
  For first and foremost, phenomenal information is all-encompassing, in 
addition to carriers of mass and energy, which can be anything in the physical 
world, anything in mind, anything in narrow and broad language or generalized 
text. Among them, there is both formal information and content information.   
   Furthermore, looking at ontology information, which is simplified in 
many ways and then focused on the same meaning or content, aims to 
disambiguate. Many people's cognitive errors and misunderstandings come from 
ambiguity.   
  Finally, in fact, and most importantly, the essential information that 
can be calculated by using truth (this is the fundamental object or subject of 
information science). 
 These are Zou Xiaohui's point of view. Please give comments or 
suggestions!
  Thank you! 


  Best wish! 


   Zou Xiaohui
   


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From: Syed Ali <doctorsyedal...@gmail.com>
Date: ,3?? 5,2018 4:26 ????
To: ZouXiaohui <949309...@qq.com>
Cc: ?? <y...@pku.edu.cn>, fis <fis@listas.unizar.es>
Subject: Re: [Fis] A Paradox



Dear Colleagues:Could you critique a view: Information is the container of 
meaning ?
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On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 5:00 AM, ZouXiaohui <949309...@qq.com> wrote:

Dear colleagues and Xueshan??




The relationship between meaning and information:

 1. Three levels to understand them

1.1  words in language: there are just two different words,meaning and 
information. 

1.2 concepts in thought: the meaning of meaning, the meaning of information, 
where both are the same, then they are two usages of one use of synonymy, 
respectively; if both mean something different then they are two different 
concepts. 

1.3 objects in world: the meaning and the information of these two terms 
specifically refer to. 

2. Either look at them from a linguistic point of view, or talk about them both 
from an informational perspective. In principle, they should not be discussed 
both in linguistics and in information science. Otherwise, they will encounter 
the contradiction between the two.




Best wishes,

Xiaohui, Zou 









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From: ?? <y...@pku.edu.cn>
Date: ,3?? 4,2018 9:18 
To: FIS Group <fis@listas.unizar.es>
Subject: Re: [Fis] A Paradox





 
Dear Dai, S?0?3ren, Karl, Sung, Syed, Stan, Terry, and Loet,

I am sorry to reply you late, but I have thoroughly read every post about the 
paradox and they have brought me many inspirations, thank you. Now I offer my 
responses as follows:

Dai, metaphor research is an ancient topic in linguistics, which reveals the 
relationship between tenor and vehicle, ground and figure, target and source 
based on rhetoric. But where is our information? It looks like Syed given the 
answer: "Information is the container of meaning." If I understand it right, we 
may have this conclusion from it: Information is the carrier of meaning. Since 
we all acknowledge that sign is the carrier of information, the task of our 
Information Science will immediately become something like an intermediator 
between Semiotics (study of sign) and Semantics (study of meaning), this is 
what we absolutely want not to see. For a long time, we have been hoping that 
the goal of Information Science is so basic that it can explain all information 
phenomenon in the information age, it just li

Re: [Fis] (no subject)

2017-10-04 Thread ZouXiaohui
> Dear Fiser??

   It is possible to formalize what is information (phenomena, essence and 
ontology) with the simplest symbolic system.




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   1.

 "Ecological Characteristics of Information and Its Scientific Research" has 
been published in Proceedings and is available online:

> Abstract: http://www.mdpi.com/2504-3900/1/3/59/

> PDF Version: http://www.mdpi.com/2504-3900/1/3/59/pdf

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   2.

 "Fundamental Law of Information: Proved by Both Numbers and Characters in 
Conjugate Matrices " has been published in Proceedings and is available online:

> Abstract: http://www.mdpi.com/2504-3900/1/3/60/

> PDF Version: http://www.mdpi.com/2504-3900/1/3/60/pdf



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From: ZouXiaohui <949309...@qq.com>
Date: ,10?? 4,2017 10:43 
To: fis <fis@listas.unizar.es>
Cc: 949309225 <949309...@qq.com>,  ?? <407167...@qq.com>
Subject: Re: [Fis]



 Dear Pedro and Joseph, Dear FISers,
Physical information; 
Psychological information; 
Mathematical information; 
The difference between the above phenomenon of information and its essence is 
the difference between the ancient??modern and the contemporary focus.

Best wishes,

 

Xiaohui ZOU 

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2017-10-04 Thread ZouXiaohui
Dear Pedro and Joseph, Dear FISers,
Physical information; 
Psychological information; 
Mathematical information; 
The difference between the above phenomenon of information and its essence is 
the difference between the ancient??modern and the contemporary focus.

Best wishes,

 

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Re: [Fis] PRINCIPLES OF IS

2017-09-15 Thread ZouXiaohui
a pair of information for any brain and any computer and any kind of another 
body


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From: ZouXiaohui <949309...@qq.com>
Date: ,9?? 16,2017 8:15 
To: Pedro C. Marijuan <pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es>, fis <fis@listas.unizar.es>, 
deacon <dea...@berkeley.edu>
Cc: ?? <yanj...@ucas.ac.cn>
Subject: Re: [Fis] PRINCIPLES OF IS




0-10zou's view PRINCIPLES OF INFORMATION SCIENCE

0??its unit??. a bit of it ??in information theory??or a pair of it??Xiaohui 
ZOU??

1??three basic categories??. Information is information, neither matter nor 
energy.

2??form of it??. Information is comprehended into structures, patterns, 
messages, or flows.

3??it both for Brain and computer??. Information can be recognized, can be 
measured, and can be  processed (either computationally or non-computationally).

4??and for life??. Information flows are essential organizers of life's 
self-production processes--anticipating, shaping, and mixing up with the 
accompanying energy flows.

5??it can inform between bodies or from one to another??. 
Communication/information exchanges among adaptive life-cycles underlie the 
complexity of biological organizations at all scales.

6??it main form as language??. It is symbolic language what conveys the 
essential communication exchanges of the human species--and constitutes the 
core of its "social nature." 

7??it can be known??. Human information may be systematically converted into 
efficient knowledge, by following the "knowledge instinct" and further up by 
applying rigorous methodologies.

8??but it difficulty to know all about it??. Human cognitive limitations on 
knowledge accumulation are partially overcome via the social organization of 
"knowledge ecologies." 


9??it is helpful for creativity??. Knowledge circulates and recombines 
socially, in a continuous actualization that involves "creative destruction" of 
fields and disciplines: the intellectual Ars Magna. 


10??see it in scientific way??. Information science proposes a new, radical 
vision on the information and knowledge flows that support individual lives, 
with profound consequences for scientific-philosophical practice and for social 
governance. 



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From: Pedro C. Marijuan <pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es>
Date: ,9?? 15,2017 8:15 
To: 'fis' <fis@listas.unizar.es>
Subject: Re: [Fis] PRINCIPLES OF IS



   Dear FIS Colleagues,
 
 As promised herewith the "10 principles of information science". A 
couple of previous comments may be in order. 
 First, what is in general the role of principles in science? I was 
motivated by the unfinished work of philosopher Ortega y Gasset, "The idea 
of principle in Leibniz and the evolution of deductive theory" 
(posthumously published in 1958). Our tentative information science seems 
to be very different from other sciences, rather multifarious in appearance 
and concepts, and cavalierly moving from scale to scale. What could be the 
specific role of principles herein? Rather than opening homogeneous realms 
for conceptual development, these information principles would appear as a 
sort of "portals" that connect with essential topics of other disciplines 
in the different organization layers, but at the same time they should 
try to be consistent with each other and provide a coherent vision of the 
information world.
 And second, about organizing the present discussion, I bet I was too 
optimistic with the commentators scheme. In any case, for having a first 
glance on the whole scheme, the opinions of philosophers would be very 
interesting. In order to warm up the discussion, may I ask John Collier, 
Joseph Brenner and Rafael Capurro to send some initial comments / 
criticisms? Later on, if the commentators idea flies, Koichiro Matsuno and 
Wolfgang Hofkirchner would be very valuable voices to put a perspectival 
end to this info principles discussion (both attended the Madrid bygone FIS 
1994 conference)... 
 But this is FIS list, unpredictable in between the frozen states and 
the chaotic states! So, everybody is invited to get ahead at his own, with 
the only customary limitation of two messages per week.
 
 Best wishes, have a good weekend --Pedro
 
 
10 PRINCIPLES   OF INFORMATION SCIENCE
 
1. Information is information, neither matter nor energy.
 
2. Information is comprehended into structures, patterns,   messages, or 
flows.
 
3. Information can be recognized, can be measured, and can beprocessed 
(either computationally or non-computationally).
 
4. Information flows are essential organizers of life's   self-production 
processes--an