Thursday, September 29, 2011, 11:11:36 AM, Michel wrote:
*** Karl:
[Karl's last paragraph:]
As to the assertion of a colleague that the term information can not
be subject to a formal definition: if one wants to use a term in a
rational, logical discourse, then the term has to be defined. If
Dear Michel and FIS colleagues,
Thanks for the excellent discussion, so far. The usual conspiracy of
bureaucratic things around me have precluded my involvement in the
important aspects dealt with (and cannot properly refer to the
individual messages before). Anyhow, three short reflections
Dear Colleagues,
taking the risk of repeating an idea that has been advanced here in FIS a
number of times, I'd like to offer answers to Michhel's questions:
Michel: Now, I ask you the following: please can you provide an extremely
simple example (the most simple you could imagine) of situation
] On
Behalf Of Michel Petitjean
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 1:39 PM
To: fis@listas.unizar.es
Subject: Re: [Fis] Chemical information: a field of fuzzy contours ?
Dear FISers,
I thank very much Robin, Xueshan, Stan, and Karl for their examples of
information, that I summarized below:
*** Robin
Dear FISers,
Many thanks to Xueshan Yan for these three examples of cheminformation.
I agree that among the various cheminformation concepts, some are technological.
E.g., the Infonortics conferences (the 2011 one held in Barcelona:
http://www.infonortics.com/call-11.html,
Dear FISers,
Pedro raises several points.
Among them:
1. Chemoinformatics or Cheminformatics ?
Both terms are encountered. I would say that unless some authority
takes a decision, both terms will continue to be used.
2. Despite I gave an example of what could be cheminformation in a
concrete
Friday, September 23, 2011, 1:07:07 PM, Michel wrote:
Now, I ask you the following: please can you provide an extremely
simple example (the most simple you could imagine) of situation in
which you can say: in this situation, information is ... .
Chemical information is welcome, but an
Dear Michel，
It is very interesting for you telling us so many stories
about the study of chemical information which took place in
France and your university.
As an information researcher, I once was invited to deliver
a speech on Information Science at a meeting about
chmoinformatics here a few
Dear Michel and FIS colleagues,
Thanks for the very accurate Intro. I am reluctant to discuss about
biological information right now, as there are other aspects you have
dealt with that deserve further discussion. The story itself is funny:
the way new fields of multidisciplinary origins have
2011/9/16 Michel Petitjean petitjean.chi...@gmail.com:
Chemical information: a field of fuzzy contours ?
-
Before turning to chemistry, I would recall some facts that I noticed
on the FIS forum:
although many people consider that a unifying
Dear Michel,
Ø Stating that information does not exist may be compared to stating that a
cloud does not exist: it is hard to define it rigorously and its frontiers
are highly fuzzy, but everybody is sure that it exists.
The problem is here the exist. This easily lead to reification.
...@listas.unizar.es [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] On
Behalf Of Michel Petitjean
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 4:44 PM
To: fis@listas.unizar.es
Subject: Re: [Fis] Chemical information: a field of fuzzy contours ?
Dear Loet,
Thanks for your very good reply.
Yes information cannot be found as res
Dear Stan,
I would not insert an 'organic realm' in the hierarchy: it is part of
the chemical realm, but it is broader than expected.
The rules of Organic Chemistry are not universal as the theorems of
mathematics are: many exceptions exist, at least due to the existence
of multifunctional
...@listas.unizar.es] On
Behalf Of joe.bren...@bluewin.ch
Sent: Sunday, 18 September 2011 2:50 a.m.
To: petitjean.chi...@gmail.com; fis@listas.unizar.es
Subject: Re: [Fis] Chemical information: a field of fuzzy contours ?
Dear Michel and FIS Colleagues,
This will be an interesting discussion, since
this be captured by
another system?
Best wishes,
Joseph
Ursprüngliche Nachricht
Von: petitjean.chi...@gmail.com
Datum: 16.09.2011 09:44
An: fis@listas.unizar.es
Betreff: [Fis] Chemical information: a field of fuzzy contours ?
Chemical information: a field of fuzzy contours
Dear Joe, dear FISErs,
An organic chemist is able to predict a number of properties from the
structural formula, including much about reactivity of the compound.
But as you know, doing that properly is extremely difficult in a
number of cases, because the rules governing reactivity are much more
Michel -- Organic chemistry was known to be the most difficult course in
Columbia University. But I got interested in it, worked very hard
constantly, and I achieved an 'A'. But what you say here indicates several
orders of magnitude more difficulty than what I played with in university.
For
Chemical information: a field of fuzzy contours ?
-
Before turning to chemistry, I would recall some facts that I noticed
on the FIS forum:
although many people consider that a unifying definition of
information science is possible (to be
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