Re: [Fis] Bell\\\'s inequality: Can we find its classical analogue? Classical and Quantum waves

2006-06-13 Thread Pedro Marijuan
Dear John and colleagues, Thanks for the rigorous philosophical directions to connect with. Getting ahead with the speculation business, here there are a few related "pills" that perhaps could be matched with aspects of the current discussion: -- physical (and biological?) information: as a d

Re: [Fis] Bell\\\'s inequality: Can we find its classical analogue? Classical and Quantum waves

2006-06-12 Thread John Collier
At 08:00 AM 6/7/2006, you wrote: Dear colleagues, let me add another aficionado naive speculation on the matters below : We might regard every locus of space-time as having the capacity to instantiate the whole laws of nature, in relation to any existential perturbation by what we call matte

Re: [Fis] Bell\\\'s inequality: Can we find its classical analogue? Classical and Quantum waves

2006-06-09 Thread Koichiro Matsuno
Folks, Just for the sake of balance, let me refer to one school of thought which has been quite under-represented so far. That is the probabilistic interpretation and formulation of QM grounded upon chance events instead of ignorance on the part of the observer. An example is a photographic emu

Re: [Fis] Bell\\\'s inequality: Can we find its classical analogue? Classical and Quantum waves

2006-06-07 Thread Pedro Marijuan
Dear colleagues, let me add another aficionado naive speculation on the matters below : We might regard every locus of space-time as having the capacity to instantiate the whole laws of nature, in relation to any existential perturbation by what we call matter, energy, etc. If there is an "in

Re: [Fis] Bell\\\'s inequality: Can we find its classical analogue? Classical and Quantum waves

2006-06-05 Thread John Collier
Professor John Collier Philosophy, University of KwaZulu-Natal Durban 4041 South Africa T: +27 (31) 260 3248 / 260 2292 F: +27 (31) 260 3031 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Http://ukzn.ac.za/undphil/collier >>> Andrei Khrennikov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 06/05/06 2:54 PM >>> Dear John, > > On a somewhat

RE: [Fis] Bell\'s inequality: Can we find its classical analogue?Classical and Quantum waves

2006-06-05 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
>One decisive difficulty with the quantum world is with its > limited linguistic accessibility. If one dares to say > something definite about the Q world in third person > description in the present tense, this would come to imply > something definite, whenever and wherever. This form of

Re: [Fis] Bell\'s inequality: Can we find its classical analogue? Classical and Quantum waves

2006-06-04 Thread Koichiro Matsuno
Folks, Pedro's question >The "physical" existentiality of physical laws >themselves looks intriguing ---where do they "seat"? is neither naive nor trivial, though sounds quite disturbing to many. My story is this. Most people seems to accept the Greek tradition of Euclidean geometry to so

Re: [Fis] Bell\'s inequality: Can we find its classical analogue? Classical and Quantum waves

2006-06-02 Thread Pedro Marijuan
Dear FISers, A question I have about entanglement is what this phenomenon can tell us on the nature of physical law. The "physical" existentiality of physical laws themselves looks intriguing ---where do they "seat"? And what coherence and entanglement may tell about that? Some physicists have

Re: [Fis] Bell\'s inequality: Can we find its classical analogue? Classical and Quantum waves

2006-05-31 Thread John Collier
At 04:22 PM 5/27/2006, you wrote: Dear Aleks, On one hand I like very much your example and discussion, but on the other hand I do not think that your example can be used to illustrate the situation with Bell´s inequality. On a somewhat different track, but relevant, Nancy Cartwright wa

[Fis] Bell\'s inequality: Can we find its classical analogue? Classical and Quantum waves

2006-05-27 Thread Andrei Khrennikov
Dear Aleks, On one hand I like very much your example and discussion, but on the other hand I do not think that your example can be used to illustrate the situation with Bell´s inequality. Aleks:> Bell\'s formulation implies that the hidden variable is independent of> the configuration of t