Re: [Fis] DISCUSSION SESSION: INFOBIOSEMIOTICS

2016-04-10 Thread Mark Johnson
I'd be interested to know whether "mattering" is considered within "meaning". I suspect "mattering" is distinct. thinking aloud Science isn't just meaningful. It matters to scientists. Perhaps it's only because it matters to some people, it exists. Re. meaning, I think the connection bet

Re: [Fis] DISCUSSION SESSION: INFOBIOSEMIOTICS

2016-04-10 Thread Francesco Rizzo
Caro Karl, la chiamiamo natura, ma è tutta arte. A. Einstein e S. Hawking pensavano che Dio non giocasse a dadi. Il primo non ha avuto il tempo di ricredersi, il secondo si. Ha perso una scommessa, circa la non emissione di informazione da parte dei buchi neri sostenuta nel 1975, dopo (2004-5) ha d

Re: [Fis] DISCUSSION SESSION: INFOBIOSEMIOTICS

2016-04-09 Thread Karl Javorszky
not in Italian but in full concordance with what Rico ha dito: information as a concept lies behind all and each of the ways of looking at the world. Whatever the picture, it has a background to it. Could it be that a description of the background is common to each and all of the pictures one makes

Re: [Fis] DISCUSSION SESSION: INFOBIOSEMIOTICS

2016-04-09 Thread Francesco Rizzo
Cari Tutti, il concetto o significato di informazione è unico, quel che varia è il modo di qualificarlo o quantificarlo in ragione dei diversi tipi o categorie di informazione: naturale o termodinamica, genetica, semantica e matematica. E questo lo dico da studioso di economia della scienza o dell'

Re: [Fis] DISCUSSION SESSION: INFOBIOSEMIOTICS

2016-04-09 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
Dear Pedro, I disagree about putting "meaning" outside the scope of natural sciences. I doubt that anybody on this list would disagree about using the metaphor of meaning in the natural sciences. Maturana (1978, p. 49): "In still other words, if an organism is observed in its operati

Re: [Fis] DISCUSSION SESSION: INFOBIOSEMIOTICS

2016-04-08 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
rk. And the question is still being asked. Best Christophe *De :* Søren Brier *Envoyé :* mercredi 6 avril 2016 02:04 *À :* 'Christophe' *Cc :* fis@listas.unizar.es *Objet :* SV: [Fis] _ DISCUSSION SESSION: INFOBIOSEMIOTICS Dear Christophe Nev

Re: [Fis] _ DISCUSSION SESSION: INFOBIOSEMIOTICS

2016-04-04 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
Dear Soren, It is very strange for me to read yours –as usual very learned – text, because your understanding of what it is I am trying to do is so different from my own understanding. Though I have had great pleasure of reading you works over the years I am not sure that you have read much of

Re: [Fis] _ DISCUSSION SESSION: INFOBIOSEMIOTICS

2016-04-02 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
Dear Soren, In my opinion, there are two issues here (again J ): 1. the issue of non-verbal (e.g., bodily) communication; 2. the meta-biological or transdisciplinary integration vs. the differentiation among the disciplines. Ad 1. Although I don't agree with Luhmann on many things, h

Re: [Fis] _ DISCUSSION SESSION: INFOBIOSEMIOTICS

2016-04-02 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
arijuan'" mailto:pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es>>, "fis@listas.unizar.es<mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es>" mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es>> Subject: Re: [Fis] _ DISCUSSION SESSION: INFOBIOSEMIOTICS Thus the question is how can we establish an alternative transdisciplin

Re: [Fis] _ DISCUSSION SESSION: INFOBIOSEMIOTICS

2016-04-02 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
?user=ych9gNYJ&hl=en From: Fis [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] On Behalf Of Pedro C. Marijuan Sent: Friday, April 01, 2016 2:01 PM To: fis@listas.unizar.es Subject: [Fis] _ DISCUSSION SESSION: INFOBIOSEMIOTICS Dear FIS Colleagues, I am attaching herein Soeren's presenta

[Fis] _ DISCUSSION SESSION: INFOBIOSEMIOTICS

2016-04-01 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FIS Colleagues, I am attaching herein Soeren's presentation. If you have any trouble with the attachment, the file is in fis web pages too: http://fis.sciforum.net/fis-discussion-sessions/ By clicking on Soeren Brier's session (highlighted in red) you can immediately obtain it. Nevert