Re: [Fis] Fis 25 / 9

[Stanley N Salthe]

RE: The organization of bodies of knowledge in the sciences takes place at

another level than the integration of cognition in the body of an

individual. One cannot reduce the one level to the other, in my opinion.

Which research program of these two has priority? How do they relate ?

potentially differently ? to information?


ME: My Cambridge colleague, Madan Thangavelu, holds that the structure of
knowledge in both human brains (and human organizations), and in' bodies of
knowledge' in the sciences, is fractal.


STAN: I don’t think that “fractal” answers Bob’s question. In fractal
organization there are no ‘levels’ as used by Bob.  Bob’s “levels” would
exist in a compositional hierarchy, wherein levels cannot communicate in an
interactional sense, but, rather, communicate indirectly, with the upper
level imposing boundary conditions upon a lower, while a lower provides raw
materials that might become organized by those boundary conditions.

STAN

On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 1:30 AM, Alex Hankey  wrote:

> RE: The organization of bodies of knowledge in the sciences takes place at
> another level than the integration of cognition in the body of an
> individual. One cannot reduce the one level to the other, in my opinion.
> Which research program of these two has priority? How do they relate ?
> potentially differently ? to information?
>
> ME: My Cambridge colleague, Madan Thangavelu, holds that the structure of
> knowledge in both human brains (and human organizations), and in' bodies of
> knowledge' in the sciences, is fractal.
>
> It is certainly true that the structure of creative ideas and new projects
> emerging from individuals and corporations has a fractal kind of
> distribution, and as a consequence, has to be assessed using a Herfyndahl
> index rather that the mean and standard deviation of a normal distribution,
> or their analogues for experimentally encountered non-normal data
> distributions. (Better the square root of the Herfyndaho index, since this
> can be additive when combining distributions.)
>
> --
> Alex Hankey M.A. (Cantab.) PhD (M.I.T.)
> Distinguished Professor of Yoga and Physical Science,
> SVYASA, Eknath Bhavan, 19 Gavipuram Circle
> Bangalore 560019, Karnataka, India
> Mobile (Intn'l): +44 7710 534195
> Mobile (India) +91 900 800 8789
> 
>
> 2015 JPBMB Special Issue on Integral Biomathics: Life Sciences,
> Mathematics and Phenomenological Philosophy
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[Fis] Fis 25 / 9

[Alex Hankey]

RE: The organization of bodies of knowledge in the sciences takes place at
another level than the integration of cognition in the body of an
individual. One cannot reduce the one level to the other, in my opinion.
Which research program of these two has priority? How do they relate ?
potentially differently ? to information?

ME: My Cambridge colleague, Madan Thangavelu, holds that the structure of
knowledge in both human brains (and human organizations), and in' bodies of
knowledge' in the sciences, is fractal.

It is certainly true that the structure of creative ideas and new projects
emerging from individuals and corporations has a fractal kind of
distribution, and as a consequence, has to be assessed using a Herfyndahl
index rather that the mean and standard deviation of a normal distribution,
or their analogues for experimentally encountered non-normal data
distributions. (Better the square root of the Herfyndaho index, since this
can be additive when combining distributions.)

-- 
Alex Hankey M.A. (Cantab.) PhD (M.I.T.)
Distinguished Professor of Yoga and Physical Science,
SVYASA, Eknath Bhavan, 19 Gavipuram Circle
Bangalore 560019, Karnataka, India
Mobile (Intn'l): +44 7710 534195
Mobile (India) +91 900 800 8789


2015 JPBMB Special Issue on Integral Biomathics: Life Sciences, Mathematics
and Phenomenological Philosophy

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