On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Pedro Marijuan wrote:
> Dear Igor and colleagues,
>
> Your question is fascinating, perhaps at the time being rather puzzling or
> even un-answerable...
Pedro, Yes, unanswerable in the absolute sense, but there are some
quantitative approximations that yield helpful insights.
Reply to Steven and Ted
By "genetic constraints" I assume you simply mean that we have certain
capacities and are not omnipotent. Is not conflict and war an indicator
of our individual failure to manage social complexity? Or would you argue
that war is social complexity management?
I was
Greetings All,
I have a different take on the limits of complexity, and perhaps the process
of complexification, based on the Prigogine paradigm of dissipative systems.
>From this point of view, I would argue that the extent of complexification
that can be physically supported by a system depends
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Reacting to both Igor's, Pedro's & Ted's communications: The many
complexities facing us as society can be parsed as follows, using a
specification hierarcy:
{physical constraints (material/chemical constraints {biological
constraints {sociocultural constraints.
Here we an apply Ted's: "My und
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> Dear Igor and colleagues,
>
> Your question is fascinating, perhaps at the
Steven Ericsson-Zenith wrote on 2/2/07:
Or would you argue that war is social complexity management?
Interpreting the term as you have, I would probably present that war
is merely part of the dynamics of social systems but indicative of
the inability of single humans (or small groups) to "man
Point of reference.
At the first ICCS conference on Complexity
at Nashua NH, USA in 1997, I presented the
concept that Complexity is driven and established
by communication probabilities between agent systems,
with entropy-related re-distribution of information
or energy or mass, being the direct
On Feb 2, 2007, at 5:07 AM, Igor Matutinovic (by way of Pedro
Marijuan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
...
Considering that we necessarily operate under certain genetic
constraints, are there (absolute) upper limits to our ability to
manage social complexity?
...
By "genetic constraints" I
Dear Igor and colleagues,
Your question is fascinating, perhaps at the time being rather puzzling or
even un-answerable...
What are the complexity limits of societies? Our individual limits are
obvious ---the size of "natural bands" depended both on ecosystems and on
the number of people wit
Dear All
I agree with Pedro's perspective, it looks very reasonable from the
standpoint of social sciences.
I would like to put a question to Joe and other colleagues regarding the
constraints of managing social complexity (whatever, objective or
perceived). Humanity has reached a high histo
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