Re: [Fis] The Interaction Man & Cognitive Informatics

2014-02-01 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
olli...@ukzn.ac.za>> Date: Saturday, February 1, 2014 7:26 AM To: Bob Logan mailto:lo...@physics.utoronto.ca>> Cc: "fis@listas.unizar.es<mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es>" mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es>> Subject: Re: [Fis] The Interaction Man Bob, Sometimes ignored in the

Re: [Fis] The Interaction Man

2014-01-31 Thread John Collier
Bob, Sometimes ignored in the mathematics of Shannon's approach are the coding and decoding steps, which he does not put in mathematical form, but appear in his diagrams. There has been some work in this area, the best of which I think to be Information Flow by Barwise and Seligman. It is a diffi

Re: [Fis] The Interaction Man

2013-12-08 Thread Bob Logan
Dear John - I agree with your distinction between information and communication. What is essential for communication is the interpretation of the information. If I cannot interpret the information there is no communication. What Shannon leave out of his theory of signals (this is not a typo, I b

Re: [Fis] The Interaction Man

2013-12-08 Thread Xiaohong Wang王小红
e with your approach to really understand Shannon. Best, Xiaohong - Original Message - From: John Collier To: Krassimir Markov , "Pedro C. Marijuan" , "fis@listas.unizar.es" Subject: Re: [Fis] The Interaction Man Date:

Re: [Fis] The Interaction Man

2013-12-08 Thread Robert E. Ulanowicz
> I would agree with distinguishing between communication and > information interaction, but I infer exactly the opposite conclusion. > Communication, it seems to me (and also according to the setup that > is the basis for Shannon's approach) requires coding and decoding > modules, but information

Re: [Fis] The Interaction Man

2013-12-08 Thread John Collier
At 12:38 AM 2013/12/05, Krassimir Markov wrote: >Dear Pedro and FIS Colleagues, >This discussion is full with interesting ideas. >What I want to add is that I distinguish the concepts "communication" and >"information interaction" which reflect similar phenomena but at different >levels of live hie

Re: [Fis] The Interaction Man

2013-12-05 Thread Xiaohong Wang王小红
Dear Pedro, Krassimir and all FIS members, Recently, the ideas you are talking are increasingly interesting. Here I like to response to Krassimir as follows: What I want to add is that I distinguish the concepts "communication" and "information interaction" which reflect similar phenomena but a