Re: [flac-dev] [PATCH] Improve LPC order guess

2014-12-12 Thread Declan Kelly
On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 12:13:13PM -0800, mle...@mega-nerd.com wrote: > > Martijn van Beurden wrote: > > > Sorry, most of the testmaterial isn't copylefted, and I don't > > think it is possible to get a nice copylefted test library. > > I don't think we need it to be copy left. We would keep i

Re: [flac-dev] [PATCH] Improve LPC order guess

2014-12-08 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Dave Yeo wrote: > On 12/08/14 12:13 PM, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: > > Martijn van Beurden wrote: > > > >> >Sorry, most of the testmaterial isn't copylefted, and I don't > >> >think it is possible to get a nice copylefted test library. > > I don't think we need it to be copy left. We would keep it

Re: [flac-dev] [PATCH] Improve LPC order guess

2014-12-08 Thread Dave Yeo
On 12/08/14 12:13 PM, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: > Martijn van Beurden wrote: > >> >Sorry, most of the testmaterial isn't copylefted, and I don't >> >think it is possible to get a nice copylefted test library. > I don't think we need it to be copy left. We would keep it as > a separate git repo of

Re: [flac-dev] [PATCH] Improve LPC order guess

2014-12-08 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Martijn van Beurden wrote: > Sorry, most of the testmaterial isn't copylefted, and I don't > think it is possible to get a nice copylefted test library. I don't think we need it to be copy left. We would keep it as a separate git repo of test files, and we could probably just use snippets inste

Re: [flac-dev] [PATCH] Improve LPC order guess

2014-12-07 Thread Martijn van Beurden
Op 04-12-14 om 20:05 schreef Erik de Castro Lopo: > Martjin, are you able to make your test material available? DO > you have any test scripts your use to run your tests? Sorry, most of the testmaterial isn't copylefted, and I don't think it is possible to get a nice copylefted test library. Th

Re: [flac-dev] [PATCH] Improve LPC order guess

2014-12-05 Thread Jan Stary
On Dec 04 11:05:24, mle...@mega-nerd.com wrote: > Martijn van Beurden wrote: > > > This patch improves compression a very tiny bit on average, but > > up to 0.1 percentage point for classical music. I haven't found > > any tracks that show worsening compression with this patch. > > Applied, tha

Re: [flac-dev] [PATCH] Improve LPC order guess

2014-12-04 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Martijn van Beurden wrote: > This patch improves compression a very tiny bit on average, but > up to 0.1 percentage point for classical music. I haven't found > any tracks that show worsening compression with this patch. Applied, thanks. I think this points to the need to have a centralised re

Re: [flac-dev] [PATCH] Improve LPC order guess

2014-12-04 Thread Martijn van Beurden
Op 04-12-14 om 09:08 schreef Miroslav Lichvar: > Just curious, is there any explanation why this improves the > compression ratio? Is it a bug? The error scale is used directly in the calculation of the expected bits per residual sample. Substituting the current code gives bps = 0.5 * log(0.5

Re: [flac-dev] [PATCH] Improve LPC order guess

2014-12-04 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 03:34:58PM +0100, Martijn van Beurden wrote: > The recent compression preset retuning improved upon most material > but it the few tracks that show regression are usually classical > music. This patch improves compression by improving the LPC order > guess, of which classica

Re: [flac-dev] [PATCH] Improve LPC order guess

2014-12-03 Thread Brian Willoughby
Thank you for the explanation, Martijn! On Dec 3, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Martijn van Beurden wrote: > Op 03-12-14 om 18:14 schreef Brian Willoughby: >> I would like to point out that 'quiet' material is common when making >> original recordings. > > This is probably a misunderstanding: I said that

Re: [flac-dev] [PATCH] Improve LPC order guess

2014-12-03 Thread Olivier Tristan
Le 03/12/2014 18:14, Brian Willoughby a écrit : > On Dec 3, 2014, at 8:30 AM, Martijn van Beurden wrote: >> Op 03-12-14 om 16:48 schreef Olivier Tristan: >>> This patch changes the settings associated with compression >>> levels 6, 7 and 8. With this patch, -e is no longer used, but >>> instead ap

Re: [flac-dev] [PATCH] Improve LPC order guess

2014-12-03 Thread Martijn van Beurden
Op 03-12-14 om 18:14 schreef Brian Willoughby: > I would like to point out that 'quiet' material is common when making > original recordings. This is probably a misunderstanding: I said that the material that suffers is usually quiet, not that all quiet material suffers. > I do a great deal of

Re: [flac-dev] [PATCH] Improve LPC order guess

2014-12-03 Thread Olivier Tristan
Le 03/12/2014 17:42, Olivier Tristan a écrit : > Le 03/12/2014 17:30, Martijn van Beurden a écrit : >> Op 03-12-14 om 16:48 schreef Olivier Tristan: >>> Looks like I've missed the talk about this regression introduced in 1.3.1. >>> From >> http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/flac-dev/2014-October/00514

Re: [flac-dev] [PATCH] Improve LPC order guess

2014-12-03 Thread Martijn van Beurden
Op 03-12-14 om 17:42 schreef Olivier Tristan: > ok, in my use case, I should use "--best -e" instead of only > "--best" then ? If you don't mind the slower encoding, yes. ___ flac-dev mailing list flac-dev@xiph.org http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listin

Re: [flac-dev] [PATCH] Improve LPC order guess

2014-12-03 Thread Olivier Tristan
Le 03/12/2014 17:30, Martijn van Beurden a écrit : > Op 03-12-14 om 16:48 schreef Olivier Tristan: >> Looks like I've missed the talk about this regression introduced in 1.3.1. > >From > http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/flac-dev/2014-October/005146.html ok, in my use case, I should use "--best -e" i

Re: [flac-dev] [PATCH] Improve LPC order guess

2014-12-03 Thread Brian Willoughby
On Dec 3, 2014, at 8:30 AM, Martijn van Beurden wrote: > Op 03-12-14 om 16:48 schreef Olivier Tristan: >> This patch changes the settings associated with compression >> levels 6, 7 and 8. With this patch, -e is no longer used, but >> instead apodization functions are added. This should improve >>

Re: [flac-dev] [PATCH] Improve LPC order guess

2014-12-03 Thread Martijn van Beurden
Op 03-12-14 om 16:48 schreef Olivier Tristan: > Looks like I've missed the talk about this regression introduced in 1.3.1. >From http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/flac-dev/2014-October/005146.html > This patch changes the settings associated with compression > levels 6, 7 and 8. With this patch,

Re: [flac-dev] [PATCH] Improve LPC order guess

2014-12-03 Thread Olivier Tristan
Le 03/12/2014 16:43, Martijn van Beurden a écrit : > Op 03-12-14 om 15:49 schreef Olivier Tristan: >> [...] >> If you want to check this on a single piano note, I would be >> happy to know if this improves the monophonic use case as well. > This sample is indeed a case where the retuning of FLAC 1.

Re: [flac-dev] [PATCH] Improve LPC order guess

2014-12-03 Thread Martijn van Beurden
Op 03-12-14 om 15:49 schreef Olivier Tristan: > [...] > If you want to check this on a single piano note, I would be > happy to know if this improves the monophonic use case as well. This sample is indeed a case where the retuning of FLAC 1.3.1 shows a severe regression. It seems the patch does

Re: [flac-dev] [PATCH] Improve LPC order guess

2014-12-03 Thread Olivier Tristan
Le 03/12/2014 15:34, Martijn van Beurden a écrit : Hi, This patch improves compression a very tiny bit on average, but up to 0.1 percentage point for classical music. I haven't found any tracks that show worsening compression with this patch. ___

[flac-dev] [PATCH] Improve LPC order guess

2014-12-03 Thread Martijn van Beurden
Hi, This patch improves compression a very tiny bit on average, but up to 0.1 percentage point for classical music. I haven't found any tracks that show worsening compression with this patch. >From baeeba8906efba2e8cffc9008ca54c7cf6c08d77 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Martijn van Beurden Date