[Flashcoders] Q:Flash Player update and Impact on 3D in Flash

2007-08-21 Thread moveup
Great news!
http://www.kaourantin.net/2007/08/what-just-happened-to-video-on-web_20.html

I was just wondering what impact if any this will have on the future of 3d in 
Flash.

One of the drawbacks of 3d in Flash (Sandy , PV3D) has been the lack of 
hardware acceleration .
Any thoughts?


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Re: [Flashcoders] Q:Flash Player update and Impact on 3D in Flash

2007-08-21 Thread Ian Thomas
Um... that is a really good announcement. But I don't understand your
question's relevance - I don't see any announcement about hardware
acceleration or 3D?

Don't mistake MPEG4 video support for MPEG4 multimedia/3D support.

Ian

On 8/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Great news!

 http://www.kaourantin.net/2007/08/what-just-happened-to-video-on-web_20.html

 I was just wondering what impact if any this will have on the future of 3d
 in Flash.

 One of the drawbacks of 3d in Flash (Sandy , PV3D) has been the lack of
 hardware acceleration .
 Any thoughts?


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 [c] 416.668.0034
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Re: [Flashcoders] Q:Flash Player update and Impact on 3D in Flash

2007-08-21 Thread Jon Bradley


On Aug 21, 2007, at 9:10 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I was just wondering what impact if any this will have on the  
future of 3d in Flash.


Well, all the video updates will have zero effect. Those have nothing  
to do with 3d. This is basically the inclusion of the MainConcept  
MPEG4 decoding engine - which is the same code in FlipFactory and  
almost all other licensed h.264 decoders.


The multi-threaded (multi-core CPU) work they are doing will have an  
effect though.


cheers,

jon
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Re: [Flashcoders] Q:Flash Player update and Impact on 3D in Flash

2007-08-21 Thread eric e. dolecki
The updated support will allow Flash Player to take advantage of hardware
acceleration provided in computer video cards



On 8/21/07, Ian Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Um... that is a really good announcement. But I don't understand your
 question's relevance - I don't see any announcement about hardware
 acceleration or 3D?

 Don't mistake MPEG4 video support for MPEG4 multimedia/3D support.

 Ian

 On 8/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Great news!
 
 
 http://www.kaourantin.net/2007/08/what-just-happened-to-video-on-web_20.html
 
  I was just wondering what impact if any this will have on the future of
 3d
  in Flash.
 
  One of the drawbacks of 3d in Flash (Sandy , PV3D) has been the lack of
  hardware acceleration .
  Any thoughts?
 
 
  [e] jbach at bitstream.ca
  [c] 416.668.0034
  [w] www.bitstream.ca
  
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RE: [Flashcoders] Q:Flash Player update and Impact on 3D in Flash

2007-08-21 Thread Paul Venton
In the context of video acceleration since the hardware, of not available then 
software, will be decoding and displaying the video.  There's no mention of 
hardware being used to accelerate non video playback.

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The updated support will allow Flash Player to take advantage of hardware
acceleration provided in computer video cards




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Re: [Flashcoders] Q:Flash Player update and Impact on 3D in Flash

2007-08-21 Thread Ian Thomas
Eric - firstly, what's that quote from? I can't find it on either Tinic's
site or the Yahoo site he links to.

Secondly, the Adobe press announcement seems quite clear:

as well as hardware accelerated, multi-core enhanced full screen video
playback.

That's hardware acceleration _for the playback of video_.

That's nothing to do with talking to the 3D rendering pipeline.

Ian

On 8/21/07, eric e. dolecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The updated support will allow Flash Player to take advantage of hardware
 acceleration provided in computer video cards


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Re: [Flashcoders] Q:Flash Player update and Impact on 3D in Flash

2007-08-21 Thread eric e. dolecki
Ahh true. H.264 support for playback with the aid of video cards.

Wondering if BitmapData stuff will see any improvement along with video
(pushing pixels to screen with less software). I would guess yes. If so,
Papervision3D use bitmap data.

- eric

On 8/21/07, Paul Venton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In the context of video acceleration since the hardware, of not available
 then software, will be decoding and displaying the video.  There's no
 mention of hardware being used to accelerate non video playback.

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 Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Q:Flash Player update and Impact on 3D in Flash

 The updated support will allow Flash Player to take advantage of hardware
 acceleration provided in computer video cards




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Re: [Flashcoders] Q:Flash Player update and Impact on 3D in Flash

2007-08-21 Thread eric e. dolecki
Saw that quote in an Apple Dev forum, so it could be wrong.

I'll take this news at face value for now then - it kicks ASS.

- eric

On 8/21/07, Ian Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Eric - firstly, what's that quote from? I can't find it on either Tinic's
 site or the Yahoo site he links to.

 Secondly, the Adobe press announcement seems quite clear:

 as well as hardware accelerated, multi-core enhanced full screen video
 playback.

 That's hardware acceleration _for the playback of video_.

 That's nothing to do with talking to the 3D rendering pipeline.

 Ian

 On 8/21/07, eric e. dolecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  The updated support will allow Flash Player to take advantage of
 hardware
  acceleration provided in computer video cards
 
 
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