Re: [Flashcoders] Demystify the Flash player installation updating for me
When I was having problems getting Flash installed I also had to manually delete the OCX file I referenced earlier. For some reason even after using the uninstaller it wouldn't fully uninstall, and I couldn't get the new version to install correctly until I removed the OCX file. That might be worth trying too (though it's probably better to move it somewhere as a backup at first instead of just deleting it). -Andy On 1/24/07, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks John, that makes sense. Appreciate the info. Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Organizational Effectiveness -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Dowdell Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 4:24 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Demystify the Flash player installation updating for me Merrill, Jason wrote: How does the Flash autoupdate work? Never quite understood that. I ran the uninstaller, went to a Web page with the adobe player, and it seems to instantly have the Flash player installed back in again - so I assumed it was the autoupdater - unless the uninstaller I ran silently failed or something... If you're in Internet Explorer, then you may need to restart the system to actually complete the removal of an ActiveX Control... that's the way the Microsoft architecture works, and this might be the cause of this part of the description. The update mechanism itself is a notification service -- just lets you know that a new version is available -- doesn't install without your express permission. http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer /help/help10.html I cannot see my Flash player 9 object like my co-worker can by going to Internet Explorer 6:Tools Settings Internet Options View Objects. I'm not good on this part, sorry... I keep Internet Explorer installed but I'm not sure what they expose where, or how different installations might show things in different interfaces. Maybe someone else has a hypothesis on this part...? jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] Demystify the Flash player installation updating for me
OK, so something I have never understood about Flash player installation and Internet Explorer. I have a co-worker who has 9,0,28,0 installed, verified in Internet Explorer 6: Tools Settings Internet Options View Objects. I have 9,0,28,0 installed, verfied by going to: http://www.macromedia.com/software/flash/about/ and seeing the version shown (unless that site is lying to me). However, I cannot see my Flash player 9 object like my co-worker can by going to Internet Explorer 6:Tools Settings Internet Options View Objects. I can however see Flash sites just fine (including Flash 9 Flex sites) as can my co-worker. Why is that? The issue for us is we have a third party Flash player wrapper (Ice player) running in the browser, and the files that run with that work fine for my co-worker, but not for me. We seen to have the same Flash player installation, just not in the same location? This seems to be why the third party Flash player wrapper (both my co-worker and I have the same install, there is only one version of it) does not work for me but works for my co-worker. Can Flash player get installed in a different location? Also, if you have time for a bonus question, how does Adobe's Flash player auto-update work? How can Adobe update the Flash player without my permission? Is auto-update somehow related to my issue? I have also seen times on Adobe's site where it indicated I did not have the Flash player installed, even though I did and could view other Flash sites just fine. Is my registry just hosed or something? How can I clean up this mess? Thanks, Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Organizational Effectiveness ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Demystify the Flash player installation updating for me
Do you and your coworker have the same permissions on your machine? For instance, if your coworker is an administrator but you're a restricted user that could explain different installations. My first try would be to completely uninstall Flash and then reinstall it (I had some really weird problem with flash a few months ago where I had to do this 4 or 5 times before it worked). Trying it myself, Flash does not appear in the Downloaded Program Files directory (where the View Objects... thing takes you). The file IE is using is at: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Macromed\Flash\Flash8.ocx On my other machine with Flash 9, the ocx file is in the same place (just called Flash9b.ocx), though I do have a Shockwave Flash Object entry in the downloaded program files directory. The only difference between these two machines is that on the Flash8 one I'm not an admin (Debugger User), while on the other one I am. -Andy On 1/24/07, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, so something I have never understood about Flash player installation and Internet Explorer. I have a co-worker who has 9,0,28,0 installed, verified in Internet Explorer 6: Tools Settings Internet Options View Objects. I have 9,0,28,0 installed, verfied by going to: http://www.macromedia.com/software/flash/about/ and seeing the version shown (unless that site is lying to me). However, I cannot see my Flash player 9 object like my co-worker can by going to Internet Explorer 6:Tools Settings Internet Options View Objects. I can however see Flash sites just fine (including Flash 9 Flex sites) as can my co-worker. Why is that? The issue for us is we have a third party Flash player wrapper (Ice player) running in the browser, and the files that run with that work fine for my co-worker, but not for me. We seen to have the same Flash player installation, just not in the same location? This seems to be why the third party Flash player wrapper (both my co-worker and I have the same install, there is only one version of it) does not work for me but works for my co-worker. Can Flash player get installed in a different location? Also, if you have time for a bonus question, how does Adobe's Flash player auto-update work? How can Adobe update the Flash player without my permission? Is auto-update somehow related to my issue? I have also seen times on Adobe's site where it indicated I did not have the Flash player installed, even though I did and could view other Flash sites just fine. Is my registry just hosed or something? How can I clean up this mess? Thanks, Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Organizational Effectiveness ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Demystify the Flash player installation updating for me
yeah, same permissions. Uninstalling and re-installing didn't seem to fix the issue though. I used the latest Adobe uninstaller. Thanks for the info though! How does the Flash autoupdate work? Never quite understood that. I ran the uninstaller, went to a Web page with the adobe player, and it seems to instantly have the Flash player installed back in again - so I assumed it was the autoupdater - unless the uninstaller I ran silently failed or something... Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Organizational Effectiveness -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Herrman Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 3:48 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Demystify the Flash player installation updating for me Do you and your coworker have the same permissions on your machine? For instance, if your coworker is an administrator but you're a restricted user that could explain different installations. My first try would be to completely uninstall Flash and then reinstall it (I had some really weird problem with flash a few months ago where I had to do this 4 or 5 times before it worked). Trying it myself, Flash does not appear in the Downloaded Program Files directory (where the View Objects... thing takes you). The file IE is using is at: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Macromed\Flash\Flash8.ocx On my other machine with Flash 9, the ocx file is in the same place (just called Flash9b.ocx), though I do have a Shockwave Flash Object entry in the downloaded program files directory. The only difference between these two machines is that on the Flash8 one I'm not an admin (Debugger User), while on the other one I am. -Andy On 1/24/07, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, so something I have never understood about Flash player installation and Internet Explorer. I have a co-worker who has 9,0,28,0 installed, verified in Internet Explorer 6: Tools Settings Internet Options View Objects. I have 9,0,28,0 installed, verfied by going to: http://www.macromedia.com/software/flash/about/ and seeing the version shown (unless that site is lying to me). However, I cannot see my Flash player 9 object like my co-worker can by going to Internet Explorer 6:Tools Settings Internet Options View Objects. I can however see Flash sites just fine (including Flash 9 Flex sites) as can my co-worker. Why is that? The issue for us is we have a third party Flash player wrapper (Ice player) running in the browser, and the files that run with that work fine for my co-worker, but not for me. We seen to have the same Flash player installation, just not in the same location? This seems to be why the third party Flash player wrapper (both my co-worker and I have the same install, there is only one version of it) does not work for me but works for my co-worker. Can Flash player get installed in a different location? Also, if you have time for a bonus question, how does Adobe's Flash player auto-update work? How can Adobe update the Flash player without my permission? Is auto-update somehow related to my issue? I have also seen times on Adobe's site where it indicated I did not have the Flash player installed, even though I did and could view other Flash sites just fine. Is my registry just hosed or something? How can I clean up this mess? Thanks, Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Organizational Effectiveness ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Demystify the Flash player installation updating for me
Merrill, Jason wrote: How does the Flash autoupdate work? Never quite understood that. I ran the uninstaller, went to a Web page with the adobe player, and it seems to instantly have the Flash player installed back in again - so I assumed it was the autoupdater - unless the uninstaller I ran silently failed or something... If you're in Internet Explorer, then you may need to restart the system to actually complete the removal of an ActiveX Control... that's the way the Microsoft architecture works, and this might be the cause of this part of the description. The update mechanism itself is a notification service -- just lets you know that a new version is available -- doesn't install without your express permission. http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/help10.html I cannot see my Flash player 9 object like my co-worker can by going to Internet Explorer 6:Tools Settings Internet Options View Objects. I'm not good on this part, sorry... I keep Internet Explorer installed but I'm not sure what they expose where, or how different installations might show things in different interfaces. Maybe someone else has a hypothesis on this part...? jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Demystify the Flash player installation updating for me
Thanks John, that makes sense. Appreciate the info. Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Organizational Effectiveness -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Dowdell Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 4:24 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Demystify the Flash player installation updating for me Merrill, Jason wrote: How does the Flash autoupdate work? Never quite understood that. I ran the uninstaller, went to a Web page with the adobe player, and it seems to instantly have the Flash player installed back in again - so I assumed it was the autoupdater - unless the uninstaller I ran silently failed or something... If you're in Internet Explorer, then you may need to restart the system to actually complete the removal of an ActiveX Control... that's the way the Microsoft architecture works, and this might be the cause of this part of the description. The update mechanism itself is a notification service -- just lets you know that a new version is available -- doesn't install without your express permission. http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer /help/help10.html I cannot see my Flash player 9 object like my co-worker can by going to Internet Explorer 6:Tools Settings Internet Options View Objects. I'm not good on this part, sorry... I keep Internet Explorer installed but I'm not sure what they expose where, or how different installations might show things in different interfaces. Maybe someone else has a hypothesis on this part...? jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
