RE: [Flashcoders] RTSP in flash?

2006-07-03 Thread Wade Arnold
I will be creating this as a desktop application. I have already written in
C++ a controller interface for the xbox 360. I now need to get the video
into the application. My thought was to use zink or some other 3rd party
projector but all them seem to only allow you to load a local file not a url
for the stream. Thanks for your insight. Back to google I go! 

Wade




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Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 7:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] RTSP in flash?

The Flash Player doesn't support the RTSP protocol (neither RTP, RTCP  
which are usually also required for proper RTSP) and it doesn't  
support decoding MPEG4 Video.  So, currently there is no way for you  
to play such a stream natively in the player and I doubt it will be  
coming anytime soon if ever.  The only other option would be for you  
to try to layer a quicktime player (if that player supports the  
version of mpeg4 your camera provides) or some media player on top of  
the Flash interface and have them communicate to each other, which  
essentially means you would fake the displaying of the video within  
Flash.

My guess is you are trying to do this within a browser, if you have  
the option of distributing this application as a desktop application  
you might want to look into some methods of embedding media player  
within a desktop application or take a look at 3rd party projector  
tools which some will allow you to do this more easily if you have no  
experience in writing desktop applications

HTH

Chafic
http://www.atellis.com
blog: http://www.rewindlife.com


On Jun 30, 2006, at 4:45 PM, Wade Arnold wrote:

 I have a desktop application that I am working on that has one  
 camera that
 it connects at:



 rtsp://127.0.0.1/livefeed



 I have scoured the web and do not see any way of natively accessing  
 this
 stream from flash. Does anyone know of any third part flash players  
 that
 allow you to connect to real time streaming protocol?



 Thanks for any insight!



 Wade Arnold

 t8design.com

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[Flashcoders] RTSP in flash?

2006-07-03 Thread Ken Rogers

Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 09:09:31 -0500
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I will be creating this as a desktop application. I have already written in
C++ a controller interface for the xbox 360. I now need to get the video
into the application. My thought was to use zink or some other 3rd party
projector but all them seem to only allow you to load a local file not a url
for the stream. Thanks for your insight. Back to google I go! 


Wade




Actually, one really neat thing about the new FlashLite2 is that you can play 
raw mpeg4/qt and h series streams DIRECTLY into the Flash player as long as 
your phone/PDA has the codec/driver.  I did a POC of this on a Nokia phone for 
a real time, per minute billing solution. So, in a way, it IS possible to play 
native video (Real Player works as well on Pocket PC etc).  This is a special 
build of the player I know, but maybe there is a way to leverage it still for 
what you are trying to do.

We streamed the movies with a Flash app in about 5 lines of code from a Darwin 
Streaming Server running on Debian. (the phone was mpeg4 ready)

-Ken


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Kazoun
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 7:04 PM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] RTSP in flash?

The Flash Player doesn't support the RTSP protocol (neither RTP, RTCP  
which are usually also required for proper RTSP) and it doesn't  
support decoding MPEG4 Video.  So, currently there is no way for you  
to play such a stream natively in the player and I doubt it will be  
coming anytime soon if ever.  The only other option would be for you  
to try to layer a quicktime player (if that player supports the  
version of mpeg4 your camera provides) or some media player on top of  
the Flash interface and have them communicate to each other, which  
essentially means you would fake the displaying of the video within  
Flash.


My guess is you are trying to do this within a browser, if you have  
the option of distributing this application as a desktop application  
you might want to look into some methods of embedding media player  
within a desktop application or take a look at 3rd party projector  
tools which some will allow you to do this more easily if you have no  
experience in writing desktop applications


HTH

Chafic
http://www.atellis.com
blog: http://www.rewindlife.com

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Re: [Flashcoders] RTSP in flash?

2006-06-30 Thread Jim Cheng

Wade Arnold wrote:


I have a desktop application that I am working on that has one camera that
it connects at:

rtsp://127.0.0.1/livefeed

I have scoured the web and do not see any way of natively accessing this
stream from flash. Does anyone know of any third part flash players that
allow you to connect to real time streaming protocol? 


You're probably best off seeing if it has a driver that'll play with the 
Flash Player's native camera support, seeing that it's running on the 
same machine (localhost).  Failing that


A long shot might be jumping over to ActionScript 3 and Flash Player 9 
and doing it yourself by implementing the RTSP protocol and MPEG4IP 
codec entirely in AS3.  While this is quite possible, if you go this 
way, be prepared for quite a bit of work and the possibility of 
lackluster performance given the complexity of decoding a video stream 
in real-time).  For example of something similar, consider, Darron 
Schall's FlashVNC client that he built using AS3 in the fall of last 
year:  http://www.darronschall.com/weblog/archives/000192.cfm


Alternatively, you could look into whether it might be possible to use 
Red5 with a transcoder like FFMPEG to convert the stream into FLV in a 
separate application before streaming it into your Flash Player.  As far 
as I know, there hasn't been any announcements of such a beast, though 
there isn't anything stopping an enterprising and skilled coder from 
doing this.


Jim

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Re: [Flashcoders] RTSP in flash?

2006-06-30 Thread Chafic Kazoun
The Flash Player doesn't support the RTSP protocol (neither RTP, RTCP  
which are usually also required for proper RTSP) and it doesn't  
support decoding MPEG4 Video.  So, currently there is no way for you  
to play such a stream natively in the player and I doubt it will be  
coming anytime soon if ever.  The only other option would be for you  
to try to layer a quicktime player (if that player supports the  
version of mpeg4 your camera provides) or some media player on top of  
the Flash interface and have them communicate to each other, which  
essentially means you would fake the displaying of the video within  
Flash.


My guess is you are trying to do this within a browser, if you have  
the option of distributing this application as a desktop application  
you might want to look into some methods of embedding media player  
within a desktop application or take a look at 3rd party projector  
tools which some will allow you to do this more easily if you have no  
experience in writing desktop applications


HTH

Chafic
http://www.atellis.com
blog: http://www.rewindlife.com


On Jun 30, 2006, at 4:45 PM, Wade Arnold wrote:

I have a desktop application that I am working on that has one  
camera that

it connects at:



rtsp://127.0.0.1/livefeed



I have scoured the web and do not see any way of natively accessing  
this
stream from flash. Does anyone know of any third part flash players  
that

allow you to connect to real time streaming protocol?



Thanks for any insight!



Wade Arnold

t8design.com

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