Re: [Flashcoders] protecting flv files.....any recommendations?

2008-12-01 Thread Ian Thomas
It's not to do with lack of rules, it's a fact of technology.

You are attempting to show someone a video = you are sending them data.

With that basic fact in place, there's nothing to stop them copying
that data. Even with the best DRM in the world, they could still
(potentially) grab a series of screenshots and re-encode. Or even
point a camera at the monitor. :-)

For the same reason, music DRM will never be enforceable. At the end
of the day, the music comes out to a speaker through two wires.
Connect them to the input of a recording device, and your DRM is
worthless...

Ian

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 3:27 AM, php_mysql_ as_ dev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Amazing that so much in life is so regulated - yet on the web -  there's no
 rules whatsoever.   But thanks for the info. Important that I found that out
  to put it mildly...carlos

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[Flashcoders] protecting flv files.....any recommendations?

2008-11-30 Thread php_mysql_ as_ dev
Can anyone recommend some techniques for protecting flv files?  I didn't
realize that streaming video could be lifted.
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Re: [Flashcoders] protecting flv files.....any recommendations?

2008-11-30 Thread Anthony Pace
There is no way to protect it.  None, nada, zip, zero, zilch.  Once it 
is on the user's machine that is it, it is theirs to do with as they 
please.  The best approach is to just assume that all code in your 
interface can and will be read, and all streaming data ripped.


php_mysql_ as_ dev wrote:

Can anyone recommend some techniques for protecting flv files?  I didn't
realize that streaming video could be lifted.
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Re: [Flashcoders] protecting flv files.....any recommendations?

2008-11-30 Thread Latcho

obscurity != security: so nope
Latcho

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Can anyone recommend some techniques for protecting flv files?  I didn't
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Re: [Flashcoders] protecting flv files.....any recommendations?

2008-11-30 Thread Anthony Pace

All levels.  Every single one.

php_mysql_ as_ dev wrote:

Can you see the actionscript in  the swf at _level1  and _level2   or only
in _level0 ?

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obscurity != security: so nope
Latcho

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Re: [Flashcoders] protecting flv files.....any recommendations?

2008-11-30 Thread php_mysql_ as_ dev
Can you see the actionscript in  the swf at _level1  and _level2   or only
in _level0 ?

 On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Latcho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 obscurity != security: so nope
 Latcho

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 Can anyone recommend some techniques for protecting flv files?  I didn't
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Re: [Flashcoders] protecting flv files.....any recommendations?

2008-11-30 Thread Anthony Pace

Hi,

Maybe you might want to learn about DRM in silver light as an option; 
yet, then again, even that is pretty easy to bypass.


Good Luck,
Anthony

Anthony Pace wrote:
There is no way to protect it.  None, nada, zip, zero, zilch.  Once it 
is on the user's machine that is it, it is theirs to do with as they 
please.  The best approach is to just assume that all code in your 
interface can and will be read, and all streaming data ripped.


php_mysql_ as_ dev wrote:

Can anyone recommend some techniques for protecting flv files?  I didn't
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Re: [Flashcoders] protecting flv files.....any recommendations?

2008-11-30 Thread php_mysql_ as_ dev
Amazing that so much in life is so regulated - yet on the web -  there's no
rules whatsoever.   But thanks for the info. Important that I found that out
 to put it mildly...carlos

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 6:26 PM, Anthony Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 All levels.  Every single one.

 php_mysql_ as_ dev wrote:

 Can you see the actionscript in  the swf at _level1  and _level2   or only


 in _level0 ?

  On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Latcho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 obscurity != security: so nope
 Latcho

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