Re: [Flashcoders] 500 blur filters on 500 MCs
WOW... Is Fuse That Great But what is the Difference... Isnt it using the same Panner, easing equations? On 3/21/07, Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Heres and example of 50 and animating them at 30 fps using fuse. The code is on the page so copy and paste change 50 to 500 and watch it crush your machine. :) http://www.thoughtwillrise.com/2006/02/27/random-clips-blur-tween/ At least this should save you the time of coding it. It requires Fuse. Ryan Mick G wrote: > Just curious if anyone has had experience working with filters on a large > number of movieclips. > > I have 500 - 1000 movieclips on stage (not animating) and I want to apply > various different blur filters and other filters to these movieclips. I > can't use one big parent clip and apply a filter to that because each > MC may > very well have different filter values (and each could be layered in a > specific order). > > Just curious if anyone has done something similar and if they noticed how > well the flash player handled it. > > Thanks > Mick > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Omar Fouad - Digital Emotions... Love is always patient and kind. It is never jealous. Love is never boastful nor conceited It is never rude or selfish. It does not take offense and is not resentful. Love takes no pleasure in other people's sins...but delights in the truth. It is always ready to excuse, to trust, to hope... and to endure... whatever comes. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] 500 blur filters on 500 MCs
Heres and example of 50 and animating them at 30 fps using fuse. The code is on the page so copy and paste change 50 to 500 and watch it crush your machine. :) http://www.thoughtwillrise.com/2006/02/27/random-clips-blur-tween/ At least this should save you the time of coding it. It requires Fuse. Ryan Mick G wrote: Just curious if anyone has had experience working with filters on a large number of movieclips. I have 500 - 1000 movieclips on stage (not animating) and I want to apply various different blur filters and other filters to these movieclips. I can't use one big parent clip and apply a filter to that because each MC may very well have different filter values (and each could be layered in a specific order). Just curious if anyone has done something similar and if they noticed how well the flash player handled it. Thanks Mick ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] 500 blur filters on 500 MCs
cacheAsBitmap will rasterise all vectors every time you scale or rotate a clip. the superCacheAsBitmap draws an MC to a bitmap object which is then scaled and rotated... thus not needing to re-cache to bitmap every frame. Arse www.snepo.com www.arseiam.com On 21/03/2007, at 10:28 AM, Mick G wrote: OK, after researching more I found out that applying a filter to a MC will actually turn bitmapcaching on for that MC anyway. I did stumble on this which is interesting: http://www.sebleedelisle.com/?p=35 Anyone know the theory of how this works? On 3/20/07, Mick G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks for the reply Steven - I understand I'm pushing things here. Would you think cacheasbitmap would help in this situation? If you apply a blur to a MC, then cacheasbitmap, does that convert the MC with blur to a cached bitmap? If so, my guess is it would probably help the cpu, but take a huge amount of ram. On 3/20/07, Steven Sacks | BLITZ < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 500 MCs is gonna be a hit already on VM1, 500 blurred MCs? Best of > luck. > > AS3/FP9 you'll have better performance but 500 blurs seems like lot. I > would suggest you write some an algorithm that creates groups of clips > with the same blur into container clips and blur the container clips > rather than all the individual clips. > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] 500 blur filters on 500 MCs
as2 is out of the question as it will struggle with 500+ clips without blurring. I've built a 3d engine in as3 that runs about 150 mcs all with independent blurring. It currently supports 120 mcs at a solid frame rate, starts to struggle at around 180 and begins to seriously drop rate at 250+ clips. The clips are all around 25x25 pixels and contain basic shapes. Steve's suggestion of grouping clips into common blur is probably your best shot. Anything you can do to reduce the number of blur filters will be beneficial. There are some sneaky tricks with drawing to bitmap objects then re-blurring (e.g. http://www.snepo.com/ experiments/Growth.html) but it really depends on what you are trying to achieve. cacheAsBitmap is not going to offer any help as applying blur filters automatically forces cacheAsBitmap to true. Additionaly if you are scaling or rotating the clips then they need to re-cache every time anyway. At least that is my understanding of bitmap caching. Regards, Arse www.snepo.com www.arseiam.com On 21/03/2007, at 10:09 AM, Mick G wrote: Thanks for the reply Steven - I understand I'm pushing things here. Would you think cacheasbitmap would help in this situation? If you apply a blur to a MC, then cacheasbitmap, does that convert the MC with blur to a cached bitmap? If so, my guess is it would probably help the cpu, but take a huge amount of ram. On 3/20/07, Steven Sacks | BLITZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 500 MCs is gonna be a hit already on VM1, 500 blurred MCs? Best of luck. AS3/FP9 you'll have better performance but 500 blurs seems like lot. I would suggest you write some an algorithm that creates groups of clips with the same blur into container clips and blur the container clips rather than all the individual clips. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] 500 blur filters on 500 MCs
OK, after researching more I found out that applying a filter to a MC will actually turn bitmapcaching on for that MC anyway. I did stumble on this which is interesting: http://www.sebleedelisle.com/?p=35 Anyone know the theory of how this works? On 3/20/07, Mick G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks for the reply Steven - I understand I'm pushing things here. Would you think cacheasbitmap would help in this situation? If you apply a blur to a MC, then cacheasbitmap, does that convert the MC with blur to a cached bitmap? If so, my guess is it would probably help the cpu, but take a huge amount of ram. On 3/20/07, Steven Sacks | BLITZ < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 500 MCs is gonna be a hit already on VM1, 500 blurred MCs? Best of > luck. > > AS3/FP9 you'll have better performance but 500 blurs seems like lot. I > would suggest you write some an algorithm that creates groups of clips > with the same blur into container clips and blur the container clips > rather than all the individual clips. > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] 500 blur filters on 500 MCs
hey gus, shouldn't there be another forum "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Mick G wrote: Just curious if anyone has had experience working with filters on a large number of movieclips. I have 500 - 1000 movieclips on stage (not animating) and I want to apply various different blur filters and other filters to these movieclips. I can't use one big parent clip and apply a filter to that because each MC may very well have different filter values (and each could be layered in a specific order). Just curious if anyone has done something similar and if they noticed how well the flash player handled it. Thanks Mick ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] 500 blur filters on 500 MCs
Thanks for the reply Steven - I understand I'm pushing things here. Would you think cacheasbitmap would help in this situation? If you apply a blur to a MC, then cacheasbitmap, does that convert the MC with blur to a cached bitmap? If so, my guess is it would probably help the cpu, but take a huge amount of ram. On 3/20/07, Steven Sacks | BLITZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 500 MCs is gonna be a hit already on VM1, 500 blurred MCs? Best of luck. AS3/FP9 you'll have better performance but 500 blurs seems like lot. I would suggest you write some an algorithm that creates groups of clips with the same blur into container clips and blur the container clips rather than all the individual clips. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] 500 blur filters on 500 MCs
500 MCs is gonna be a hit already on VM1, 500 blurred MCs? Best of luck. AS3/FP9 you'll have better performance but 500 blurs seems like lot. I would suggest you write some an algorithm that creates groups of clips with the same blur into container clips and blur the container clips rather than all the individual clips. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
