Re: [Flashcoders] hen's teeth...

2010-01-05 Thread Paul Andrews
Dave Watts wrote: Perhaps you can explain how AS3 is narrow. For years Pascal was THE language to learn programming then eventually it migrated to Java and I don't consider AS3 to be a limited language or narrow in it's outlook. I think it's rather a good and accessible first language to learn.

Re: [Flashcoders] hen's teeth...

2010-01-05 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
Duly noted. I dont think I am so much worried that I should know C# in order to know or learn AS3, but more, if I do take on C#, that I can incorporate my skills and be able to expand beyond the barriers so-to-speak as a flash developer and programer. Also, because I am told that they are

Re: [Flashcoders] hen's teeth...

2010-01-05 Thread Paul Andrews
Karl DeSaulniers wrote: Duly noted. I dont think I am so much worried that I should know C# in order to know or learn AS3, but more, if I do take on C#, that I can incorporate my skills and be able to expand beyond the barriers so-to-speak as a flash developer and programer. Also, because I am

Re: [Flashcoders] hen's teeth...

2010-01-05 Thread Meinte van't Kruis
I'd say, learn a lower-level language. I've worked with some guys with an assembly and c++ background, and they really knew how to squeeze the last drops of performance out of a flash app. On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Paul Andrews p...@ipauland.com wrote: Karl DeSaulniers wrote: Duly

Re: [Flashcoders] hen's teeth...

2010-01-05 Thread John McCormack
Taka Kojima wrote: it's not necessarily the language that makes a developer, it's the conceptual understanding of everything else, design patterns, syntax, best practices, I would agree with that. What 2nd language to choose depends upon what you aim to do... I program in C++ for my own

Re: [Flashcoders] hen's teeth...

2010-01-05 Thread Paul Andrews
Meinte van't Kruis wrote: I'd say, learn a lower-level language. I've worked with some guys with an assembly and c++ background, and they really knew how to squeeze the last drops of performance out of a flash app. That's far less of a concern for most Flash applications and faster

Re: [Flashcoders] hen's teeth...

2010-01-05 Thread Glen Pike
The people (like me) that have passed through the assembly and C++ route have done so not as a way to become better AS3 developers but because our situations required that we program assembler and C++. Those skills help us with AS3 but aren't an efficient route to take. Don't go there.

Re: [Flashcoders] hen's teeth...

2010-01-05 Thread Ron Wheeler
Dave Watts wrote: So would you say it would be advantageous for aspiring Flash programers to learn C#? Or leave it alone, not needed? I hear they are very similar as well. I was wondering what the benefits would be. AS3 and C# are very similar, yes. I think it's advantageous for aspiring

Re: [Flashcoders] hen's teeth...

2010-01-05 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
Interesting. I have heard of haXe but never investigated. Thanks, Karl On Jan 4, 2010, at 5:59 PM, Ron Wheeler wrote: Dave Watts wrote: So would you say it would be advantageous for aspiring Flash programers to learn C#? Or leave it alone, not needed? I hear they are very similar as well.

Re: [Flashcoders] hen's teeth...

2010-01-05 Thread John McCormack
Glen Pike wrote: You do something wrong in C / C++ you could end up with a BSOD, or a broken CD Writer (ahem). Sorry, the (ahem) made me laugh! I got into Flash ActionScript because it was the fastest and easiest way of getting something to show on the screen Yep. I hated Visual Studio I

Re: [Flashcoders] hen's teeth...

2010-01-05 Thread Ron Wheeler
Paul Andrews wrote: Dave Watts wrote: Perhaps you can explain how AS3 is narrow. For years Pascal was THE language to learn programming then eventually it migrated to Java and I don't consider AS3 to be a limited language or narrow in it's outlook. I think it's rather a good and accessible

Re: [Flashcoders] hen's teeth...

2010-01-05 Thread Meinte van't Kruis
Actually, I think performance should be on top of the priority list for any Flash developer. Unresponsive flash apps are the number one irritation imho. On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Paul Andrews p...@ipauland.com wrote: Meinte van't Kruis wrote: I'd say, learn a lower-level language. I've

Re: [Flashcoders] hen's teeth...

2010-01-05 Thread Paul Andrews
Meinte van't Kruis wrote: Actually, I think performance should be on top of the priority list for any Flash developer. Unresponsive flash apps are the number one irritation imho. LOL, I have yet to write one and I have yet to use any techniques from my assembler or C++ days. In most cases

Re: [Flashcoders] hen's teeth...

2010-01-05 Thread Dave Watts
I think Adobe is rather missing a trick in not having a stand-alone version of Actionscript. Really? AS3 is really just an environment-specific implementation of the latest JS specifications, along with class libraries that make sense in Flash Player. I don't think it really brings anything to

[Flashcoders] Encrypting credit card data

2010-01-05 Thread Steven Loe
Is there a preferred and easy to deal with method to encrypt credit card data being sent to a server in AS3? Is there a good open source class out there for this? Thanks! ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com

Re: [Flashcoders] hen's teeth...

2010-01-05 Thread Dave Watts
Also, because I am told that they are similar, will it may make it easier to learn C# if I already know AS3? I found it easier to learn AS3, knowing some C# and Java - all three are quite similar, although I think C# is a little more like AS3 than Java is. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software

Re: [Flashcoders] Encrypting credit card data

2010-01-05 Thread Henrik Andersson
Steven Loe wrote: Is there a preferred and easy to deal with method to encrypt credit card data being sent to a server in AS3? Is there a good open source class out there for this? Try http over ssl, it's what normal browsers use. If it's good enough for internet banking, it's good enough

[Flashcoders] How do I create a device profile for CS4? Or where can I find some docs?

2010-01-05 Thread Jim Lafser
I've been looking for some documentation on how to create a device profile for CS4 and can't find any. So, how do they get created? How can I create one?   Thanks ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com

Re: [Flashcoders] hen's teeth...

2010-01-05 Thread Bob Wohl
This thread has been a good read. Over the years I've been tasked to write multiple server languages and I've learned a great deal from that. PHP, ASP, .NET, Java and now Grails. I haven't mastered any of them but I can understand them, write them and do it correctly. I suppose my next language

[Flashcoders] detect and remove listeners

2010-01-05 Thread ktt
Hello, What is the best method to iterate through MovieClip children, check if they have listeners and if they have - remove them? Thank you in advance, Ktt ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com