Re: [Flashcoders] Apple backing off. Why?
there's a bit of a developer exodus from iOS to android at the moment (certainly they're learning to use android alongside it) http://www.techeye.net/mobile/developers-migrate-from-iphone-to-android-in-droves / http://econsultancy.com/uk/blog/5514-here-comes-the-android-gold-rush http://www.techeye.net/mobile/developers-migrate-from-iphone-to-android-in-drovesi think apples crappy behaviour towards their developers is finally paying them back - web app devs (like flash guys) who converted to apple because of the app gold rush are looking at android and seeing the user numbers and the freedoms and thinking 'screw it - i can develop for android in actionscript for air and if i like it i can learn java' suck it apple - i've gone linux a On 9 September 2010 15:38, Gregory Boudreaux gjboudre...@fedex.com wrote: Probably a little of everything. Also, there's going to be about 50 tablets released in the next year... most of which will probably play Flash. gregb -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Bill S. Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 9:28 AM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] Apple backing off. Why? I would like to understand the real reason why Apple is backing off -- as from what I have seen in the past, I can't believe it is for the love of developers.. . Corporate pressure? (which has been hinted at). . Possibility of Federal trade restriction lawsuits? . possibly a lack of new *significant* apps, as developers began to consider other platforms? Personally, I am not interested in the iPad/iPhone as a target, until Steve Jobs apologizes. (which means, never again ;-) Lovin' Android, ~Bill -- Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 15:46:00 +0200 From: Henrik Andersson he...@henke37.cjb.net Subject: [Flashcoders] Apple changes their guidelines To: Flash Coders List flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Message-ID: 4c88e518.9090...@henke37.cjb.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2010/09/09statement.html ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Apple backing off. Why?
I don't believe apple really gives a crap about developers. We can thank the FTC probe for their sudden change of policy. I still feel burnt by Mr. Jobs. On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 2:05 AM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) alla...@gmail.com wrote: there's a bit of a developer exodus from iOS to android at the moment (certainly they're learning to use android alongside it) http://www.techeye.net/mobile/developers-migrate-from-iphone-to-android-in-droves / http://econsultancy.com/uk/blog/5514-here-comes-the-android-gold-rush http://www.techeye.net/mobile/developers-migrate-from-iphone-to-android-in-drovesi think apples crappy behaviour towards their developers is finally paying them back - web app devs (like flash guys) who converted to apple because of the app gold rush are looking at android and seeing the user numbers and the freedoms and thinking 'screw it - i can develop for android in actionscript for air and if i like it i can learn java' suck it apple - i've gone linux a On 9 September 2010 15:38, Gregory Boudreaux gjboudre...@fedex.com wrote: Probably a little of everything. Also, there's going to be about 50 tablets released in the next year... most of which will probably play Flash. gregb -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Bill S. Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 9:28 AM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] Apple backing off. Why? I would like to understand the real reason why Apple is backing off -- as from what I have seen in the past, I can't believe it is for the love of developers.. . Corporate pressure? (which has been hinted at). . Possibility of Federal trade restriction lawsuits? . possibly a lack of new *significant* apps, as developers began to consider other platforms? Personally, I am not interested in the iPad/iPhone as a target, until Steve Jobs apologizes. (which means, never again ;-) Lovin' Android, ~Bill -- Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 15:46:00 +0200 From: Henrik Andersson he...@henke37.cjb.net Subject: [Flashcoders] Apple changes their guidelines To: Flash Coders List flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Message-ID: 4c88e518.9090...@henke37.cjb.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2010/09/09statement.html ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- Carl Welch http://www.carlwelch.com 805.403.4819 ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Apple backing off. Why?
agreed On 10 September 2010 17:41, Carl Welch carlwelchdes...@gmail.com wrote: I don't believe apple really gives a crap about developers. We can thank the FTC probe for their sudden change of policy. I still feel burnt by Mr. Jobs. On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 2:05 AM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) alla...@gmail.com wrote: there's a bit of a developer exodus from iOS to android at the moment (certainly they're learning to use android alongside it) http://www.techeye.net/mobile/developers-migrate-from-iphone-to-android-in-droves / http://econsultancy.com/uk/blog/5514-here-comes-the-android-gold-rush http://www.techeye.net/mobile/developers-migrate-from-iphone-to-android-in-droves i think apples crappy behaviour towards their developers is finally paying them back - web app devs (like flash guys) who converted to apple because of the app gold rush are looking at android and seeing the user numbers and the freedoms and thinking 'screw it - i can develop for android in actionscript for air and if i like it i can learn java' suck it apple - i've gone linux a On 9 September 2010 15:38, Gregory Boudreaux gjboudre...@fedex.com wrote: Probably a little of everything. Also, there's going to be about 50 tablets released in the next year... most of which will probably play Flash. gregb -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Bill S. Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 9:28 AM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] Apple backing off. Why? I would like to understand the real reason why Apple is backing off -- as from what I have seen in the past, I can't believe it is for the love of developers.. . Corporate pressure? (which has been hinted at). . Possibility of Federal trade restriction lawsuits? . possibly a lack of new *significant* apps, as developers began to consider other platforms? Personally, I am not interested in the iPad/iPhone as a target, until Steve Jobs apologizes. (which means, never again ;-) Lovin' Android, ~Bill -- Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 15:46:00 +0200 From: Henrik Andersson he...@henke37.cjb.net Subject: [Flashcoders] Apple changes their guidelines To: Flash Coders List flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Message-ID: 4c88e518.9090...@henke37.cjb.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2010/09/09statement.html ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- Carl Welch http://www.carlwelch.com 805.403.4819 ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Apple backing off. Why?
Carl Welch skriver: I don't believe apple really gives a crap about developers. We can thank the FTC probe for their sudden change of policy. I still feel burnt by Mr. Jobs. I must have missed that, what probe? ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Apple backing off. Why?
A large one :) Henrik Andersson wrote: Carl Welch skriver: I don't believe apple really gives a crap about developers. We can thank the FTC probe for their sudden change of policy. I still feel burnt by Mr. Jobs. I must have missed that, what probe? ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Apple backing off. Why?
Henrick, http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/09/ftc-apple/ mwaa-hahahaha. I will enjoy every minute of this. I felt like Steve personally kicked me in the heart when he came out against Flash. His stance has definitely had an impact on my work as a flash developer. My work load when from more than I could handle to pretty much nothing at all. I am bitter to say the least. -- Carl Welch http://www.carlwelch.com 805.403.4819 On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Henrik Andersson he...@henke37.cjb.net wrote: Carl Welch skriver: I don't believe apple really gives a crap about developers. We can thank the FTC probe for their sudden change of policy. I still feel burnt by Mr. Jobs. I must have missed that, what probe? ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Apple backing off. Why?
Probably a little of everything. Also, there's going to be about 50 tablets released in the next year... most of which will probably play Flash. gregb -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Bill S. Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 9:28 AM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] Apple backing off. Why? I would like to understand the real reason why Apple is backing off -- as from what I have seen in the past, I can't believe it is for the love of developers.. . Corporate pressure? (which has been hinted at). . Possibility of Federal trade restriction lawsuits? . possibly a lack of new *significant* apps, as developers began to consider other platforms? Personally, I am not interested in the iPad/iPhone as a target, until Steve Jobs apologizes. (which means, never again ;-) Lovin' Android, ~Bill -- Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 15:46:00 +0200 From: Henrik Andersson he...@henke37.cjb.net Subject: [Flashcoders] Apple changes their guidelines To: Flash Coders List flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Message-ID: 4c88e518.9090...@henke37.cjb.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2010/09/09statement.html ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
