Re: [Flashcoders] Apple developing flash-like alternative

2010-05-19 Thread John McCormack
On 08/05/2010 07:48, Jared wrote: http://thenextweb.com/apple/2010/05/08/apple-is-developing-a-flash-alternative-and-has-been-for-almost-a-year/ Don't know how valid this is but it would explain a lot This gives a 'balanced' view: At a stroke Apple’s quality argument is effectively blown

Re: [Flashcoders] Apple developing flash-like alternative

2010-05-10 Thread Cedric Muller
Don't bother :) Apple is doing its own playground in its own special island + walled gardens how could they develop a flash concurrent that would sit on the 'ubiquitous' side of things ?? The same ubiquity than with Quicktime Player or Safari ? :D (sorry, but ... these only work on

Re: [Flashcoders] Apple developing flash-like alternative

2010-05-10 Thread allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com)
one of the best comments on digg: [quote] iTunes and Quicktime are absolute piles of shit. People talk about Flash crashing a browser? Quicktime is just as bad. Complete shit. iTunes is just as bad as Outlook when it comes to bloatware. Not to mention a horrible to use piece of software.

Re: [Flashcoders] Apple developing flash-like alternative

2010-05-10 Thread allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com)
ah just re-read the article - this is a javascript framework so nothing to see i guess? a On 10 May 2010 10:19, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) alla...@gmail.com wrote: one of the best comments on digg: [quote] iTunes and Quicktime are absolute piles of shit. People talk about

Re: [Flashcoders] Apple developing flash-like alternative

2010-05-10 Thread Cedric Muller
Yes, this blog post http://www.uza.lt/blog/2010/05/gianduia-vs-flash/ gives two examples: http://concierge.apple.com/reservations/R002 http://iphone-reserve.apple.com/WebObjects/RPRCustomer.woa/wo/0. beware, these are extremely horrible proof of concept. The static forms loading is way

Re: [Flashcoders] Apple developing flash-like alternative

2010-05-10 Thread allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com)
nice find cedric On 10 May 2010 10:58, Cedric Muller flashco...@benga.li wrote: Yes, this blog post http://www.uza.lt/blog/2010/05/gianduia-vs-flash/ gives two examples: http://concierge.apple.com/reservations/R002 http://iphone-reserve.apple.com/WebObjects/RPRCustomer.woa/wo/0. beware,

RE: [Flashcoders] Apple developing flash-like alternative

2010-05-10 Thread Mendelsohn, Michael
I can understand the Quicktime complaints, but what are the common complaints about iTunes? - MM one of the best comments on digg: [quote] iTunes is just as bad as Outlook when it comes to bloatware. Not to mention a horrible to use piece of software. [/quote] amazingly true

Re: [Flashcoders] Apple developing flash-like alternative

2010-05-10 Thread Jer Brand
Don't remember seeing this linked up this weekend. Not a flash replacement, just another JS lib with cocoa-like syntax: http://ajaxian.com/archives/gianduia Jer ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com

Re: [Flashcoders] Apple developing flash-like alternative

2010-05-10 Thread allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com)
i find that (even on a mac) iTunes slowly drains the machine of clocks and memory (i don't use it on the pc - if only i could avoid quicktime in the same way) A On 10 May 2010 13:08, Mendelsohn, Michael michael.mendels...@fmglobal.comwrote: I can understand the Quicktime complaints, but what

Re: [Flashcoders] Apple developing flash-like alternative

2010-05-10 Thread Dave Watts
I can understand the Quicktime complaints, but what are the common complaints about iTunes? I've been using iTunes for years (on a PC) and without a doubt I have more problems with it than anything else I use. Actually, I'm not sure it's all iTunes' fault - every so often my iPod locks up

Re: [Flashcoders] Apple developing flash-like alternative

2010-05-10 Thread Glen Pike
- but iTunes itself is slow, bloated, unresponsive, and ignores every UI convention on Windows. I'm half convinced it's intentionally so bad to convince people to get a Mac to run it. Oh, the irony :-D ___ Flashcoders mailing list

Re: [Flashcoders] Apple developing flash-like alternative

2010-05-10 Thread bill
: [Flashcoders] Apple developing flash-like alternative I can understand the Quicktime complaints, but what are the common complaints about iTunes? I've been using iTunes for years (on a PC) and without a doubt I have more problems with it than anything else I use. Actually, I'm not sure it's all iTunes

Re: [Flashcoders] Apple developing flash-like alternative

2010-05-09 Thread Paul Andrews
On 09/05/2010 02:55, Mendelsohn, Michael wrote: I'd rather not go negative, especially on this list which is so valuable to me, but this Flash Alternative news simply disgusts me. It's as underhanded as a business can get. Why would any business reveal their intentions before they are

RE: [Flashcoders] Apple developing flash-like alternative

2010-05-09 Thread Mendelsohn, Michael
Well, you have a point Paul. But compare and contrast to Microsoft. Microsoft liked the Flash client too, so they came up with their own. They never went on an insult spree. Apple apparently likes the Flash client too, but they did go on an insult spree. That's underhanded to me, and in my

Re: [Flashcoders] Apple developing flash-like alternative

2010-05-09 Thread Dave Watts
Well, you have a point Paul.  But compare and contrast to Microsoft.   Microsoft liked the Flash client too, so they came up with their own.  They never went on an insult spree.  Apple apparently likes the Flash client too, but they did go on an insult spree.  That's underhanded to me, and

Re: [Flashcoders] Apple developing flash-like alternative

2010-05-08 Thread Ktu
oh apple. Why do you have so many secrets? On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 2:48 AM, Jared jared.stan...@gmail.com wrote: http://thenextweb.com/apple/2010/05/08/apple-is-developing-a-flash-alternative-and-has-been-for-almost-a-year/ Don't know how valid this is but it would explain a lot Sent from

Re: [Flashcoders] Apple developing flash-like alternative

2010-05-08 Thread William Bierwerth
Mac gaming-never took off either, they don't have the mindset for development ~b Ktu wrote: oh apple. Why do you have so many secrets? On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 2:48 AM, Jared jared.stan...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Flashcoders] Apple developing flash-like alternative

2010-05-08 Thread tom rhodes
read the comments, seemingly nothing at all to do with anything flash-like in reality! On 8 May 2010 14:54, William Bierwerth b.bierwe...@earthlink.net wrote: Mac gaming-never took off either, they don't have the mindset for development ~b Ktu wrote: oh apple. Why do you have so many

Re: [Flashcoders] Apple developing flash-like alternative

2010-05-08 Thread William Bierwerth
as I remember there was a time that Mac had a big push to develop 3D, it fell apart Mac had a push to develop a game developers community to compete with windows (when windows was the defacto choice for games) it fell apart Now they want FLASH? oooh no they they don't want to come out of

RE: [Flashcoders] Apple developing flash-like alternative

2010-05-08 Thread Mendelsohn, Michael
I'd rather not go negative, especially on this list which is so valuable to me, but this Flash Alternative news simply disgusts me. It's as underhanded as a business can get. - MM ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com