Re: [Flashcoders] OT: After Effects and Flash
My question is, I would like to know what kinds of things I could utilize After Effects for (BESIDES nifty effects in digital video clips, obviously), for my Flash work - just some ideas from those of you who know it and use it for effects in their Flash projects. Nothing. Nifty effects in digital videos only. After Effects is a great software, but it's for motion graphics and that's it; sure there's a lot in motion graphics, but it's hardly something you'd use on Flash movies, unless you want your Flash movies to have a lot of videos (or image sequences). - zeh ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] OT: After Effects and Flash
Nothing. Zeh, I don't 100% believe you. :) I know After Effects is for motion effects, and primarily for video, but I could have sworn people have used it for image sequences for movie clip effects in Flash movies. For example, there is a neat effect you can do with Photoshop where you gradually blur a series of small images you are animating in Flash, and then you play that sequence back in Flash to get a much more visually fluid motion effect, sort of a little like this (in the intro sequence): http://cmt.icfconsulting.com/EM/CEM-Start-A.htm But with a series of changing images (that one only has a bitmap simply tweening). I know Flash 8 has some of this capability now as well, but not entirely - I know the blur effect in Flash 8 is only effective in certain directions. I'm also talking about other effects like fire and smoke which I was told was done with After Effects. I have also seen some neat sites posted on Flash lists where there were some amazing effects, and when people asked how they were done in Flash, they said they had used After Effects, so I don't think I'm completely crazy. Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] OT: After Effects and Flash
For example, this site used After Effects to create PNG sequences to bring into Flash for neat visual animation effects (some of it demo'ed within the site itself) http://www.advanceflash.com/#sec=0 That's what I'm talking about. Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zeh Fernando Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 8:31 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OT: After Effects and Flash My question is, I would like to know what kinds of things I could utilize After Effects for (BESIDES nifty effects in digital video clips, obviously), for my Flash work - just some ideas from those of you who know it and use it for effects in their Flash projects. Nothing. Nifty effects in digital videos only. After Effects is a great software, but it's for motion graphics and that's it; sure there's a lot in motion graphics, but it's hardly something you'd use on Flash movies, unless you want your Flash movies to have a lot of videos (or image sequences). - zeh ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: After Effects and Flash
You can do motion type stuff, but you are restricted more or less to the same types of tricks you'd use with Photoshop due to file size constraints. After Effects is pretty much just Photoshop with a timeline. For more elaborate effects, you will more than likely be better off creating video in After Effects to utilize in Flash as .FLV files. On 12/15/05, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's what I'm talking about. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: After Effects and Flash
http://www.advanceflash.com/#sec=0 That's what I'm talking about. On my screen that site really shakes terrible, I think it's some sort of banding effect. Really annoying. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] OT: After Effects and Flash
Count, Zeh, I do appreciate you replying. But I think I should have been more clear in my original e-mail. I AM just talking about motion effects for Flash, nothing else. I realize After Effects does just that. I'm asking what kinds of motion effects have been done for Flash projects using After Effects, and not video effects, other kinds of animated effects like a .png sequence - looking for some specific ideas for .png sequences I guess is what I'm really after... of course, example links or non-Adobe tutorials would be great. Thanks. Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Count Schemula Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 9:21 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OT: After Effects and Flash You can do motion type stuff, but you are restricted more or less to the same types of tricks you'd use with Photoshop due to file size constraints. After Effects is pretty much just Photoshop with a timeline. For more elaborate effects, you will more than likely be better off creating video in After Effects to utilize in Flash as .FLV files. On 12/15/05, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's what I'm talking about. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] OT: After Effects and Flash
Hmmm, that's odd, not for me. Other than the lack of contrast and very small buttons, that site appears very fluid and nicely done from what I see in Firefox with the Flash 8 player. Anyway, besides the point of the discussion... Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Weyert de Boer Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 9:30 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OT: After Effects and Flash http://www.advanceflash.com/#sec=0 That's what I'm talking about. On my screen that site really shakes terrible, I think it's some sort of banding effect. Really annoying. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] OT: After Effects and Flash
Thanks Ryan - that's exactly what I'm talking about. BTW - Kigot - a bit over the top with the interface, but really nice site and it looks like great looking After Effects effects. Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Luce Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 9:45 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OT: After Effects and Flash kigot.com did alot of after effects stuff... particle animations and stuff like that sometimes turn out better in after effects. also advanceflash.com has a multitude of stuff you can buy for flash... alot of it was made in ae. sorry for poor grammar and no links... i'm lazy and just woke up. NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: After Effects and Flash
Nothing. Zeh, I don't 100% believe you. :) I know After Effects is for motion effects, and primarily for video, but I could have sworn people have used it for image sequences for movie clip effects in Flash movies. For example, there is a neat effect you can do with Photoshop where you gradually blur a series of small images you are animating in Flash, and then you play that sequence back in Flash to get a much more visually fluid motion effect, sort of a little like this (in the intro sequence): I have also seen some neat sites posted on Flash lists where there were some amazing effects, and when people asked how they were done in Flash, they said they had used After Effects, so I don't think I'm completely crazy. Well, maybe I misunderstood the question then, sorry. To me, those *are* nifty effects in digital videos. In that vein, well, there's an infinite array of stuff that can be done, so it's hard to predict in what AFX can help in a Flash movie. Since it's just like Photoshop but with a timeline and billions of third-party filters possible, you're just restricted to your imagination as a motion graphics designer. If you want to check the software when trying to apply it to your Flash movies, I think there's two things you'd want to check; First one is scripting. You can script stuff on AFX using javascript. This means you can create some crazy animations (like you'd do with, say, actionscript in flash) but, as you output it to a video, execution speed isn't an issue (since it's not realtime but rendered). The second one of course is developing motion graphic designs skills to know *what* you can do on it and how. Again, it's kind of an infinite field, so it's more of a design thing than a technical thing. On both cases, there's a lot of sites that might help you. I don't think I can give an example on how AFX could help you - they're specific for each different situation. Website-wise, I personally like this one, about the scripting side of AFX: http://www.motionscript.com/ Sorry for the long ot/rant, but I'm over now. I hope that helps. - zeh ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: After Effects and Flash
Yeahm After Effects is really nice. It's not for nothing used in mutliple movies, especially the 3D support in AE is nice. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] OT: After Effects and Flash
Thanks Zeh, really helpful. Esp. the info on Javascripting for effects. Personally, to me png animation sequences in Flash are not videos per se, but I guess you could look at it that way too. I can see where we diverged in the discussion. Thanks for the info. Sorry for the long ot/rant, but I'm over now. That was a rant? Man, you should have considered being Pope or a Ghandi or something. ;) Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zeh Fernando Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:04 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OT: After Effects and Flash Nothing. Zeh, I don't 100% believe you. :) I know After Effects is for motion effects, and primarily for video, but I could have sworn people have used it for image sequences for movie clip effects in Flash movies. For example, there is a neat effect you can do with Photoshop where you gradually blur a series of small images you are animating in Flash, and then you play that sequence back in Flash to get a much more visually fluid motion effect, sort of a little like this (in the intro sequence): I have also seen some neat sites posted on Flash lists where there were some amazing effects, and when people asked how they were done in Flash, they said they had used After Effects, so I don't think I'm completely crazy. Well, maybe I misunderstood the question then, sorry. To me, those *are* nifty effects in digital videos. In that vein, well, there's an infinite array of stuff that can be done, so it's hard to predict in what AFX can help in a Flash movie. Since it's just like Photoshop but with a timeline and billions of third-party filters possible, you're just restricted to your imagination as a motion graphics designer. If you want to check the software when trying to apply it to your Flash movies, I think there's two things you'd want to check; First one is scripting. You can script stuff on AFX using javascript. This means you can create some crazy animations (like you'd do with, say, actionscript in flash) but, as you output it to a video, execution speed isn't an issue (since it's not realtime but rendered). The second one of course is developing motion graphic designs skills to know *what* you can do on it and how. Again, it's kind of an infinite field, so it's more of a design thing than a technical thing. On both cases, there's a lot of sites that might help you. I don't think I can give an example on how AFX could help you - they're specific for each different situation. Website-wise, I personally like this one, about the scripting side of AFX: http://www.motionscript.com/ Sorry for the long ot/rant, but I'm over now. I hope that helps. - zeh ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
