RE: [BULK] Re: [Flashcoders] OT - Detecting flash versions for a large site

2008-09-18 Thread Lord, Susan, CTR, DSS
This is really cool, Glen! Thanks for the heads up on Flash Analytics. I
am going to implement this on my personal site!  Unfortunately, I am
with the gov't and we can't use the Google app on our site.  I wish we
could!

Does anyone know if there is a way to write something that runs with the
person first hits my internet home page... possibly an asp script that
will detect the version of flash and write it out to a log file?
Basically we want to create our own stats for our particular audience.
We don't want the coding embedded in a SWF, since there are no swf's on
our home page.

Any advice or references you have would be most helpful!  

Thanks!

Susan


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Re: [BULK] Re: [Flashcoders] OT - Detecting flash versions for a large site

2008-09-18 Thread sebastian

Hi again Susan,

There are several ways, you can write your own Javascript or search 
google for an example].


Or, you can use SWFObject, and then rip out the version it finds in the 
externally loaded swfobject.js file:


deconcept.SWFObjectUtil.getPlayerVersion();

Or, you can load a flash SWF file, that reads the version:

http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=tn_14294

And then write/store that information manually via some ASP/PHP script 
on your server.


:)

Seb.

Lord, Susan, CTR, DSS wrote:

This is really cool, Glen! Thanks for the heads up on Flash Analytics. I
am going to implement this on my personal site!  Unfortunately, I am
with the gov't and we can't use the Google app on our site.  I wish we
could!

Does anyone know if there is a way to write something that runs with the
person first hits my internet home page... possibly an asp script that
will detect the version of flash and write it out to a log file?
Basically we want to create our own stats for our particular audience.
We don't want the coding embedded in a SWF, since there are no swf's on
our home page.

Any advice or references you have would be most helpful!  


Thanks!

Susan


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Re: [Flashcoders] OT - Detecting flash versions for a large site

2008-09-16 Thread Bob Wohl
Well, the most important reason for people to have the latest FP is the
security fix(fixed in 9.0.124).  But, Adobe does not supply that
version's penetration as of yet:
http://www.adobe.com/products/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetration.htmlhttp://www.adobe.com/products/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetration.html

As for creating your own survey for your users, this would be pretty
straight forward. Get the version they are using on load, send the version
to a database, compare overall versions = result. Also, you could probably
inject JS into the page the swf lives and pull the version that way so you
don't have to recompile/embed  deploy a new swf.

B.

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Lord, Susan, CTR, DSS 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 I am in a bit of a quandary... I need to do 2 things. First of all, I
 need to convince my gov't client that AS3 and flash 9 are the way to go
 for new development.  Does anyone know of a good list of benefits I
 might be able to share with my client?

 My second task... I need to somehow detect what version of the flash
 player people are using who access our site and track this data. If I
 could prove that a certain percentage of people already have the Flash 9
 player installed that would greatly help my case.  Basically I need to
 accomplish this task in the background, so it won't disturb the user's
 workflow and track the data. We have about 80k users of our website.  Is
 there a good way to do this that you might recommend?

 Any guidance you could provide is greatly appreciated!

 Thanks!
 Susan



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Re: [Flashcoders] OT - Detecting flash versions for a large site

2008-09-16 Thread sebastian

Hi Susan,

This might help you a little:

http://www.adobe.com/products/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetration.html

In google you can find more stats by using some or all of these words:

flash player penetration version statistics

and to make your own stats:

http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/download/detection_kit/
http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=tn_14294

check also, if in AS3, the class: Class Capabilities

:)

Good luck!

Lord, Susan, CTR, DSS wrote:

Hi everyone,

I am in a bit of a quandary... I need to do 2 things. First of all, I
need to convince my gov't client that AS3 and flash 9 are the way to go
for new development.  Does anyone know of a good list of benefits I
might be able to share with my client?

My second task... I need to somehow detect what version of the flash
player people are using who access our site and track this data. If I
could prove that a certain percentage of people already have the Flash 9
player installed that would greatly help my case.  Basically I need to
accomplish this task in the background, so it won't disturb the user's
workflow and track the data. We have about 80k users of our website.  Is
there a good way to do this that you might recommend?

Any guidance you could provide is greatly appreciated!

Thanks!
Susan



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Re: [Flashcoders] OT - Detecting flash versions for a large site

2008-09-16 Thread Glen Pike

Hi,

Google Analytics will report the Flash version down to the revision if 
you have this installed already, you are laughing.


It's tucked under Visitors-Browser Capabilities-Flash Versions on 
the Analytics page.


Glen

Lord, Susan, CTR, DSS wrote:

Hi everyone,

I am in a bit of a quandary... I need to do 2 things. First of all, I
need to convince my gov't client that AS3 and flash 9 are the way to go
for new development.  Does anyone know of a good list of benefits I
might be able to share with my client?

My second task... I need to somehow detect what version of the flash
player people are using who access our site and track this data. If I
could prove that a certain percentage of people already have the Flash 9
player installed that would greatly help my case.  Basically I need to
accomplish this task in the background, so it won't disturb the user's
workflow and track the data. We have about 80k users of our website.  Is
there a good way to do this that you might recommend?

Any guidance you could provide is greatly appreciated!

Thanks!
Susan



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Re: [Flashcoders] OT - Detecting flash versions for a large site

2008-09-16 Thread Bob Wohl
That's pretty hot Glen. I didn't know that was there! Thanks, learned
something new! =)
B.

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Glen Pike [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Hi,

 Google Analytics will report the Flash version down to the revision if you
 have this installed already, you are laughing.

 It's tucked under Visitors-Browser Capabilities-Flash Versions on the
 Analytics page.

 Glen

 Lord, Susan, CTR, DSS wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 I am in a bit of a quandary... I need to do 2 things. First of all, I
 need to convince my gov't client that AS3 and flash 9 are the way to go
 for new development.  Does anyone know of a good list of benefits I
 might be able to share with my client?

 My second task... I need to somehow detect what version of the flash
 player people are using who access our site and track this data. If I
 could prove that a certain percentage of people already have the Flash 9
 player installed that would greatly help my case.  Basically I need to
 accomplish this task in the background, so it won't disturb the user's
 workflow and track the data. We have about 80k users of our website.  Is
 there a good way to do this that you might recommend?

 Any guidance you could provide is greatly appreciated!

 Thanks!
 Susan



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Re: [Flashcoders] OT - Detecting flash versions for a large site

2008-09-16 Thread Glen Pike

Hi,

   It's quite nice and I have used Flash with Analytics for tracking 
too - just by calling the javascript functions (bit of a fiddle in AS3), 
but straightforward in AS2 and you can set up Goals too for your site to 
measure your targets and see how people got there.  As much as I have 
issues with Google's ubiquity, this tool is free and I have not found 
anything to match it so far...


   Stick Analytics in your HTML page:

   script type=text/javascript
   var gaJsHost = ((https: == document.location.protocol) ? 
https://ssl.; : http://www.;);
   document.write(unescape(%3Cscript src=' + gaJsHost + 
google-analytics.com/ga.js' type='text/javascript'%3E%3C/script%3E));

   /script
   script type=text/javascript
   var pageTracker = _gat._getTracker(UA-BLAHBLAH);
   pageTracker._initData();
   pageTracker._trackPageview();
   /script
   /body

   AS2: 
getURL(javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/make/up/your/url/to/suit/ 
+ pageID + '););


  
   JS For AS3 - a bit of a frig because there were issues with the 
pageTracker object...

   script type=text/javascript
   // ![CDATA[
   var pageTracker = _gat._getTracker(UA-BLAHBLAH);
   pageTracker._initData();
   pageTracker._trackPageview();
  
   function trackTesting(page) {

   pageTracker._trackPageview(page);
   }
   // ]]
   /script

   AS3:

   var page:String = evt.type.substr(5);
   //ExternalInterface caused a few problems with this so I abandoned 
it for the getURL replacement in AS3

   sendToURL(new URLRequest(javascript:trackTesting('+page+');));


   HTH

   Glen

Bob Wohl wrote:

That's pretty hot Glen. I didn't know that was there! Thanks, learned
something new! =)
B.

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Glen Pike [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

  

Hi,

Google Analytics will report the Flash version down to the revision if you
have this installed already, you are laughing.

It's tucked under Visitors-Browser Capabilities-Flash Versions on the
Analytics page.

Glen

Lord, Susan, CTR, DSS wrote:



Hi everyone,

I am in a bit of a quandary... I need to do 2 things. First of all, I
need to convince my gov't client that AS3 and flash 9 are the way to go
for new development.  Does anyone know of a good list of benefits I
might be able to share with my client?

My second task... I need to somehow detect what version of the flash
player people are using who access our site and track this data. If I
could prove that a certain percentage of people already have the Flash 9
player installed that would greatly help my case.  Basically I need to
accomplish this task in the background, so it won't disturb the user's
workflow and track the data. We have about 80k users of our website.  Is
there a good way to do this that you might recommend?

Any guidance you could provide is greatly appreciated!

Thanks!
Susan



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