[flexcoders] Blogging Options/Services that support Flex apps? Wordpress/Other?

2008-12-05 Thread pbrendanc
I'm interested in creating a Flex related blog that will also contain sample Flex code/apps. I'd prefer to manage this all in one place - without using a separate web host for the app data files. I don't need a database - just content management + swf storage. I'm looking at Wordpress but I'm not

Re: [flexcoders] Blogging Options/Services that support Flex apps? Wordpress/Other?

2008-12-05 Thread shruti shety
Hello, You can try  google's hosting  with view source option enabled. They will host swf files. Thanks, Shruti --- On Fri, 12/5/08, pbrendanc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: pbrendanc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [flexcoders] Blogging Options/Services that support Flex apps?

[flexcoders] AMF3 ping???

2008-12-05 Thread andrea bianchi
Hi, debugging my application I discovered that every request produces two POSTs. I'm connecting a RemoteObject to an AMFEndpoint of BlazeDS. Reading the content of the POST data (using HTTPFox) I guessed one is a sort of ping, the other is the real request. The application works fine but I

[flexcoders] Create Flex Ajax Bridge menu option - Crashes FlexBuilder

2008-12-05 Thread polestar11
rant So often I have accidentally clicked the 'Create Ajax Bridge' menu option which is located just above the SVN 'Team' menu option. I then click cancel and ... wallah ... Flex Builder has crashed. /rant

[flexcoders] Problem loading larger size images in AIR

2008-12-05 Thread kk_kishorek1010
Hi, Currently I am working one Album Project using Flex and AIR. I face one problem while loading larger size images, it taking much time to load and sometimes systems will hangs. The application is working fine while using smaller size images (assuming below 1000 X 1000 pixels). I understand

Re: [flexcoders] Creating strongly typed objects from HTTPService results

2008-12-05 Thread bpjadam
So as a followup to my own thread, I've written a drop-in replacement for SimpleXMLDecoder / Encoder that I call TypedXMLDecoder/Encoder.. Rather than turning an XML doc into a tree of plain-jane Object (or ObjectProxy) instances, it directly creates a graph of typed instances using a simple XML

[flexcoders] Accessing Stage from Class

2008-12-05 Thread Dale Fraser
I have several classes that need access to the stage. How can classes access the stage, do I need to pass it, or is there a built in method. Regards Dale Fraser

[flexcoders] Canvas label and keyboard shortcuts

2008-12-05 Thread kalle.blorin
Hi, This question is related to the Button label and keyboard shortcuts at http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/message/131350. I have successfully implemented Tim's HTMLButton - Thanks for that tip, Tim! - but am having difficulties transferring this example to a Canvas. My application

[flexcoders] Flex : Execution of Alert.show() starts for the last one

2008-12-05 Thread Gaurav J
Hello All, I have doing a small experiment with flex 3 and found something every strange. In a function i am calling Alert.show() 3 Times 1,2,3 but when i call that function the execution of starts from the bottom calling the message box 3 first and message 1 the last. Have anyone got an

[flexcoders] Flex Gumbo Adding Images to Application.application

2008-12-05 Thread Dale Fraser
When I try to add some images to Application.application using addItem they don't appear. If I pass this into the class, and add them, it works, so I know the code works. Is there a reason you cant add items to the application from Application.application. Regards Dale Fraser

[flexcoders] Re: How to display special characters like #176; in ComboBox list

2008-12-05 Thread oneworld95
Try this: http://devharbor.blogspot.com/2008/11/setting-flex-label-to-special-character.html -Alex --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Alex Harui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ha! I've always wanted to say this to you: Post your code. :-) Isn't that XML syntax that won't work in a CDATA block

Re: [flexcoders] Re: How to display special characters like ° in ComboBox list

2008-12-05 Thread Sebastien ARBOGAST
Ah merde en effet c'était un autre geoffrey que je visais.Désolé. Celà dit ça peut t'intéresser :P Sébastien Arbogast http://sebastien-arbogast.com 2008/12/5 oneworld95 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try this: http://devharbor.blogspot.com/2008/11/setting-flex-label-to-special-character.html -Alex

[flexcoders] Re: Flex and Java Communication

2008-12-05 Thread valdhor
Ryan Thanks for the response. I tried to checkout wicket but it keeps asking me to authenticate. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Ryan Gravener [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://code.google.com/p/wicket-flex-blazeds/ Ryan Gravener http://ryangravener.com/flex |

[flexcoders] AIR app uninstall issue - database stays in applicationStorageDirectory forever?

2008-12-05 Thread b_alen
Not sure if I'm doing something wrong, on the application launch I'm copying SQLite database from applicationDirectory to applicationStorageDirectory, in order to be able to read and write. Of course, I check if the database already exists there or not. var dbFile:File =

[flexcoders] Re: itemrenderer rollover event seems no sensitive

2008-12-05 Thread Amy
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Alex Harui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the renderer has no background in order to let the selectioncolors show through so there's no hittable area there. I think you should be using the dataTip feature instead. I use this code in updateDisplayList of

[flexcoders] Re: How to display special characters like #176; in ComboBox list

2008-12-05 Thread b_alen
This is an issue since the Flash was invented. Your best bet is to convert HTML entities to unicode characters. You can do that in the runtime right after you fetch the data from the server, or you can do it on the server. If you're doing it in Flex runtime make use of String.replace, and

Re: [flexcoders] Re: DataGrid itemRenderer Woes

2008-12-05 Thread Simon Bailey
Hi Max, Finally got around to looking at you example and it looks great. I am gonna start building a work example for my app with some of your logic today so thanks and I will feedback the results. One things I noticed with your app is something that happens on some test I have run.

[flexcoders] Re: Data not appearing in AdvancedDataGrid

2008-12-05 Thread oneworld95
I've often had to look at multiple examples to figure out what I need to do for a project. Here are a few places to try, the first one having some code that matches your scenario, - http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/quickstart/accessing_xml_data/ (scroll down for the datagrid example; same thing

[flexcoders] Re: How to display special characters like #176; in ComboBox list

2008-12-05 Thread valdhor
This works for me ( # 176 ; is the little circle used for degrees right): ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8? mx:Application xmlns:mx=http://www.adobe.com/2006/mxml; layout=absolute backgroundColor=#FF mx:ComboBox x=100 y=200 rowCount=7 prompt=Special Characters Test

[flexcoders] Re: FP 10 FileReference Security Cairngorm == Headache

2008-12-05 Thread Jamie McDaniel
Hi Jeff, From the documentation on FileReference http://livedocs.adobe.com/flex/3/langref/flash/net/FileReference.html browse() method --- In Flash Player 10 and Flash Player 9 Update 5, you can only call this method successfully in response to a user event (for example, in an event

[flexcoders] Re: AMF3 ping???

2008-12-05 Thread valdhor
I don't know about BlazeDS but with WebORB you get a ping (It's actually called a Command Message) just before the first server access. Any server requests after that are only sent once (ie. no Command Message). Now, it seems to me that this will work this way for a while and the this Command

[flexcoders] Re: Flex : Execution of Alert.show() starts for the last one

2008-12-05 Thread valdhor
Gaurav Actually no - it is calling them in the right order. You need to think about what is happening... You call Alert.show with Message 1 Flex puts this alert on screen You call Alert.show with Message 2 Flex puts this alert on screen directly over the top of Message 1 You call Alert.show with

[flexcoders] Re: Accessing Stage from Class

2008-12-05 Thread valdhor
The Stage object is not globally accessible. You need to access it through the stage property of a DisplayObject instance. If your class has access to a DisplayObject use it. Else, pass it. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have several classes that

Re: [flexcoders] Re: handle large data sets from SOAP service

2008-12-05 Thread Michelle Davis
Thanks for the respond.  That's what we plan to do here. Can you or someone show me a code sample of paging? Thanks, Michelle.   From: Tracy Spratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2008 10:18:50 AM Subject: RE:

[flexcoders] Help with a Action Script web service - Noobie Question

2008-12-05 Thread wkolcz
I am trying to create a web service in ActionScript that will push 4 variables to a remote CFC to do a simple insert. How can I pass the 4 variables in the code? Assume I know not much. This is my first Web Service. Here is what I have so far: var

[flexcoders] Re: Data not appearing in AdvancedDataGrid

2008-12-05 Thread todd.bruner
Alex: Thanks so much for the links! I think they will be a tremendous help. Todd --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, oneworld95 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've often had to look at multiple examples to figure out what I need to do for a project. Here are a few places to try, the first one

[flexcoders] Re: Data not appearing in AdvancedDataGrid

2008-12-05 Thread todd.bruner
Tracy: Thanks for taking the time to reply. I was wishing to display something like: period 2008-12-5 00:00:00| | | CK | 101 | US | 33 | UK | 10 2008-12-5

re: [flexcoders] Help with a Action Script web service - Noobie Question

2008-12-05 Thread wkolcz
I further modified my code to this: var trackerDAO:WebService = new WebService(http://ummcstqa16vm/prmc/videotracking/trackerDAO.cfc?wsdl;); var operation:Operation = new Operation(trackerDAO,countIt); operation.addEventListener(FaultEvent.FAULT, alertFault);

[flexcoders] Re: Data not appearing in AdvancedDataGrid

2008-12-05 Thread oneworld95
You'd probably want to use a labelFunction on each column where you want to do something to what the user sees. I think one of the links I sent you has info on creating labelFunctions. Here's an example, // As described here: http://thanksmister.com/?p=8 // Pulls data from XML nodes that are

[flexcoders] How-to read video from memory

2008-12-05 Thread cedvilleneuve
Hi, I'd like to feed a VideoDisplay with a MemoryStream. The reason for that is that I will get video files from proprietary TCP protocol in a AIR application. So I'll have the bytes of the video in memory, and I'd like to display the video in my client. I can't use a temporary disk file

[flexcoders] changelog between Flex Builder versions?

2008-12-05 Thread ivo
Hello all, I have flex builder on a Windows Vista and Windows XP machine both seem to be upto date. At least the update manager and upgrade mechanism report it to be the case on both machines. Still when looking at the version info in the Help - About the XP machine says 3.0.2.214193 and the

RE: [flexcoders] Flex Gumbo Adding Images to Application.application

2008-12-05 Thread Alex Harui
If you pass what into the class? Can you show working and nonworking code snippets? From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Fraser Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:32 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Flex Gumbo Adding Images to

RE: [flexcoders] Canvas label and keyboard shortcuts

2008-12-05 Thread Alex Harui
See if SuperTabNavigator supports shortcuts. I'm not sure if it does or no. From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kalle.blorin Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 1:07 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Canvas label and keyboard shortcuts Hi,

Re: [flexcoders] Flex Gumbo Adding Images to Application.application

2008-12-05 Thread Nate Beck
That sounds a lot like using the _root tag of old... What are you trying to accomplish with this, maybe there is a cleaner more OO way to do this? On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Alex Harui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you pass what into the class? Can you show working and nonworking code

[flexcoders] Re: handle large data sets from SOAP service

2008-12-05 Thread Todd
Sounds like what you're planning on doing is more dependent upon your backend implementation for executing a SOAP request, retrieving the million records, probably caching it somewhere on the server, maybe even slurping it into a database. Then, you'll have to create your own service, either web,

RE: [flexcoders] RE: How to display special characters like #176; in ComboBox list

2008-12-05 Thread Tracy Spratt
Aargh, the shoemaker's children are barefoot. I am creating a static dataProvider for the combobox: _aHC2SODP = [{data:0, label:0 #176;F},{data:20, label:2 #176;F}]; //looking for the degree symbol But the above renders literally. I have discovered that building a string in

Re: [flexcoders] RE: How to display special characters like #176; in ComboBox list

2008-12-05 Thread Alen Balja
Did you try with unicode chars like I told you? \u00B0 - this is for the small circle (deegre) _aHC2SODP = [{data:*0*, label:*0 *\u00B0*F*},{data:*20*, label:*2 * \u00B0*F*}]; On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 11:57 PM, Tracy Spratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aargh, the shoemaker's children

RE: [flexcoders] RE: How to display special characters like #176; in ComboBox list

2008-12-05 Thread Alex Harui
Be nice now. Tracy, the issue is that in the declarative example we are parsing the XML, but in the AS example, we are just parsing text and not XML so the \u format is needed there. From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alen Balja Sent: Friday, December

[flexcoders] txtbx focus at login

2008-12-05 Thread Robert Byrne
This is a bit odd.  When I first open the application, the focus IS set on the login txtbx but when I start typing nothing happens. If I tab to the password txtbx I can type.  If I tab back to the login, I can type. If I click anywhere on the flex app, not just in the login txtbx, I can type.

[flexcoders] Re: Canvas label and keyboard shortcuts

2008-12-05 Thread Tim Hoff
Hi Kalle, I was able to get this to work by using the HTMLButton and extending TabNavigator, TabBar, Tab, and ToggleButtonBar. However, there might be a little loss of style; since the include statements had to be taken out. It's too much code to post here. But, contact me offline, if you

RES: [flexcoders] Flex : Execution of Alert.show() starts for the last one

2008-12-05 Thread Luciano Manerich Junior
Hi, that is the normal behavior. Every message gets the MAX(z-index) + 1. When you add the first message, you'll have just the application App Layer | 1st Message When it comes the 2nd message, that will be above last added message App Layer | 1st Message | 2nd Message And so it is on 3rd

RES: [flexcoders] Flex : Execution of Alert.show() starts for the last one

2008-12-05 Thread Luciano Manerich Junior
just for reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LIFO -Mensagem original- De: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de Gaurav J Enviada em: sexta-feira, 5 de dezembro de 2008 08:37 Para: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Assunto: [flexcoders] Flex : Execution of

Re: RES: [flexcoders] Flex : Execution of Alert.show() starts for the last one

2008-12-05 Thread Robert Byrne
Flex does not work like javascript.  Javascript would wait for a response from alert 1 before executing alert 2.  Flex executes them all as Luciano points out.  It is the same thing with confirmation boxes.  You will need to bind events to them where as in JS you might put them inside of 'if'

[flexcoders] Re: Data not appearing in AdvancedDataGrid

2008-12-05 Thread todd.bruner
I'm starting to make some progress with your help. I've changed my xml output and incorporated Alex and Tracy's suggestions. I can now see data in the ADG but its not quite what I expected. Here's the what I get: Period Country Detects 2008-12-04 03:00:00 PHGBMYDK

[flexcoders] Re: Accessing Stage from Class

2008-12-05 Thread Tim Hoff
If your class is a component, you may have to listen for the ADDED_TO_STAGE event, before you can reference the stage and add things like keyboard event listeners: public function MyComponentClass() { super(); addEventListener( Event.ADDED_TO_STAGE, onAddedToStage ); } -TH ---

[flexcoders] Some free Flex and AIR tutorials and classes ( 8 hours worth)

2008-12-05 Thread dnickull
All: I just posted two courses in their entirety. They are available at http://web2open.org/courses.html. The courses include a custom build of BlazeDS I made that incorporates Apache Axis 1.4 SOAP stack (the WSDL 1.1 version that can be used by Flex builder to introspect WSDL's and generate

[flexcoders] AdvancedDataGrid: disable masking?

2008-12-05 Thread Dorian Roy
Hi, I have an AdvancedDataGrid with custom ItemRenderers. By default all itemRenderers seem to be masked according to the size of the grid. But I need to have some renderers extend beyond the boundaries of the grid. Any ideas how to control the masking? Thanks in advance, Dorian

RE: [flexcoders] Re: Accessing Stage from Class

2008-12-05 Thread Alex Harui
Flex keeps every display object off the stage until fully baked (applicationComplete event). It speeds up initialization a bit. During that time, any UIComponent hooked up to the Application in some way can get to the stage via systemManager.stage From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com

Re: [flexcoders] Accessing Stage from Class

2008-12-05 Thread Dorian Roy
you can always access the stage from any class (be it in the display list or not) by calling Application.application.stage On 05.12.2008, at 05:15, Dale Fraser wrote: I have several classes that need access to the stage. How can classes access the stage, do I need to pass it, or is there

[flexcoders] Re: How to display special characters like #176; in ComboBox list

2008-12-05 Thread valdhor
So how about this: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8? mx:Application xmlns:mx=http://www.adobe.com/2006/mxml; layout=absolute backgroundColor=#FF creationComplete=onCreationComplete() mx:Script ![CDATA[ private function onCreationComplete():void {

[flexcoders] Popup window stays open with history management enabled

2008-12-05 Thread Erich Cervantez
So I have a ViewStack with history management enabled (and enabled in the Application tag). This enables the user to click the browser's Back and Forward buttons while in the application and it will move the user back or forward through each screen they've visited. Now if one of those screens

RE: [flexcoders] Re: Accessing Stage from Class

2008-12-05 Thread Gordon Smith
BTW, that's because in AIR there can be multiple instances of Stage. Each NativeWindow has one. Gordon Smith Adobe Flex SDK Team From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of valdhor Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 6:54 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject:

[flexcoders] How to get availability memory

2008-12-05 Thread Marco Catunda
Hi, Is there any way to get availability amount of memory? I only be able to get amount of memory in using by totalMemory property of System class. -- Marco Catunda

RE: [flexcoders] RE: How to display special characters like #176; in ComboBox list

2008-12-05 Thread Tracy Spratt
Sorry Alen, I clearly need to read all responses before I reply. Daddy Alex said post the code and I tripped over my own feet to comply ;) The hex / unicode solution is the ticket. Thanks everyone! Tracy From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com

RE: [flexcoders] txtbx focus at login

2008-12-05 Thread Tracy Spratt
This is because the Flash Player instance itself (Object/Embed tag) does not have the focus in the Browser. There is a bit of javascript code that will set the focus, but last I heard it only works in IE. I can find that script if it would be useful. Tracy

[flexcoders] Re: Data not appearing in AdvancedDataGrid

2008-12-05 Thread oneworld95
Look up flex itemRenderer on Google. I think that will enable you to customize the component that displays the rollup column. Within the itemRenderer, you'd want to do an override of the set data() function. -Alex --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, todd.bruner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm

[flexcoders] Flex/flash and Firefox 3.0.x performance

2008-12-05 Thread schneiderjim
Flex: 2 Flash: 9 and 10 Has anyone experienced performance issues with a flex/flash app running on Firefox 3.0.x. After poking around my app for a bit and then doing nothing, the firefox 3.0.x process sits at about 40% CPU usage. Doing the same with Firefox 2.0.0.18 and the firefox process goes

[flexcoders] Re: Component Life Cycle

2008-12-05 Thread pratikshah83
Thanks for you help. Really appreciated. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To be honest, I'm not sure why it's using the default Flex styles at the beginning. What I do know is that when I set up my component's default style in the manner I posted, it

[flexcoders] Re: Data not appearing in AdvancedDataGrid

2008-12-05 Thread todd.bruner
I tried something different and got it to work. Thanks for all your help. For others searching, here's what I did. For those following the thread, if there's a better way to do this, I welcome your suggestions. (got the idea to try it this way from Programming Flex 3. Kazoun, Lott) relevant

[flexcoders] How Flex read data from swf or change data in swf?

2008-12-05 Thread markflex2007
Hi Do you think if it is possible? This is for the Flex and Flash communication. Thanks Mark

RE: [flexcoders] Re: AMF3 ping???

2008-12-05 Thread Seth Hodgson
The messaging/transport layer in Flex 2 and 3 is based on channels. A channel always handshakes with a server endpoint before passing application-generated messages/requests over its connection. So you'll see a ping command issued each time a channel initially connects. If a request fails due

[flexcoders] ping from flash

2008-12-05 Thread flexaustin
Is it possible to do a ping or rdp from Flash?

RE: [flexcoders] txtbx focus at login

2008-12-05 Thread Robert Byrne
I'm looking into this now, but won't get back to it for a while: http://www.igorcosta.org/?p=179 There also a bit about it here: http://www.htmlforums.com/archive/index.php/t-64150.html Thanks for the pointers. -Robert --- On Fri, 12/5/08, Tracy Spratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tracy

[flexcoders] Bug: flash.display.Graphics being removed.

2008-12-05 Thread flexaustin
Has anyone had this issue? I do the following (using Flex Builder 3 w/ sdk 3.1 and Flash Player 10). // BEGIN CODE -- import flash.display.Graphics; public function get drawGraphics():Graphics { if(_drawing) {

RE: [flexcoders] txtbx focus at login

2008-12-05 Thread Tracy Spratt
This works in IE: window.onload = setFocusOnLoad; function setFocusOnLoad(){ ${swf}.focus(); } From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Byrne Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 4:34 PM To:

RE: [flexcoders] Flex Gumbo Adding Images to Application.application

2008-12-05 Thread Dale Fraser
Well my classes add images to the stage. I can either pass this in from main app, setup a static class reference or I thought access it through Application.application Regards Dale Fraser From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nate Beck Sent:

RE: [flexcoders] Accessing Stage from Class

2008-12-05 Thread Alex Harui
I'm pretty sure Application.application.stage is null until applicationComplete event From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dorian Roy Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 11:06 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Accessing Stage from Class

RE: [flexcoders] Popup window stays open with history management enabled

2008-12-05 Thread Alex Harui
I would use BrowserManager and clear the popup on the url changes From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erich Cervantez Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 11:17 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Popup window stays open with history management

RE: [flexcoders] How to get availability memory

2008-12-05 Thread Alex Harui
I don't know of any way to do that From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marco Catunda Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 11:40 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] How to get availability memory Hi, Is there any way to get availability amount

RE: [flexcoders] Flex Gumbo Adding Images to Application.application

2008-12-05 Thread Alex Harui
I think I still need to see some code From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Fraser Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 3:37 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex Gumbo Adding Images to Application.application Well my classes add

Re: [flexcoders] RE: How to display special characters like #176; in ComboBox list

2008-12-05 Thread Alen Balja
Hey, glad you solved it! I also didn't read enough to understand that you're not loading data from the server, so I wasn't as direct as I could be. Luckily I'm just doing the same thing on the current, in fact degree symbol was on my list just few hours before your post. On Sat, Dec 6, 2008