Re: [flexcoders] Flex alternatives

2012-01-16 Thread Guy Morton
A thought on cross-browser hell… If every web developer in the world today decided to drop support for IE, everyone would go get Chrome or Firefox. This would be a win-win, as they would get a better browser, and we would get a better development environment. Who's with me? Guy On

Re: [flexcoders] Flex alternatives

2012-01-16 Thread Paul Andrews
Time they remade Fantasy Island, I think. They could start with a ship arriving for the Flex Alternatives conference. Tattoo could feed the SilverLight impostor to the sharks. LOL On 16/01/2012 12:23, Guy Morton wrote: A thought on cross-browser hell… If every web developer in the world

[flexcoders] Re: Flex alternatives

2012-01-16 Thread valdhor
Good luck on convincing IT departments in large corporations who are generally Microsoft shops. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Guy Morton guy@... wrote: A thought on cross-browser hell… If every web developer in the world today decided to drop support for IE, everyone would go get

[flexcoders] Re: Flex alternatives

2012-01-16 Thread valdhor
All of that seems inordinately complex compared to just coding in ActionScript. I still believe there is a future with Flex (I am planning for 3-5 years). Adobe is still developing Flash for the desktop. Flex is just an ActionScript Framework (Or library if you like to think of it that way) of

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex alternatives

2012-01-16 Thread Rogerio Gonzalez
It is not just that... I remember in the 90's there was IE and Netscape... then came Opera... and then Gekko/Firefox replaced Netscape... now, there is Chrome. There are so many browsers, because each one of then thinks that he is the best for some kind of need of the user. that means: each one

[flexcoders] Skinning question

2012-01-16 Thread michael_regert
I'm still trying to learn solid skinning practices and looking for a recommendation. I need to skin a component based on our UXD design. I can do half of what I need in CSS ,but then I need to actually copy the spark skin and modify it for the remain part. My question is, since I'm already

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex alternatives

2012-01-16 Thread Rajan Jain
Hi   I have been working with Flex and related technologies for last 7 -10 yrs. Recently, in my project I came across this technology   http://eclipse.org/rap/   and it converts all your SWT Java components into Qooxdoo Javascript which finally runs on the browser. But here everything is Java.

[flexcoders] Re: Flex alternatives

2012-01-16 Thread joaoak
From what I've seen, in Zkoss there's a strong coupling between the server and the client. I might be wrong, but when I tested the demos it looked to me that any user interaction (ex: clicking on a button) ends up in a call to the server. I'm not a big fan of this approach... I think you might

[flexcoders] Re: Flex alternatives

2012-01-16 Thread Ron G
Hi Joaoak: You can make the coupling as tight or loose as you want. Each UI object can have a client side widget that is primarily the appearance, and a server side component that should contain the more complex logic. So, you can hide as much as want by placing it in the server side component

[flexcoders] Re: Flex alternatives

2012-01-16 Thread Ron G
The problem with that approach is a lot of people are behind corporate firewalls where they also do not have local admin rights and are therefore not allowed to install anything on their desktop. If they want it, they have to call the network guys and get authorization and then have them