Re: [flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo

2007-03-10 Thread dorkie dork from dorktown
: [flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo SharedObject. You mean those little tiny 128k or whatever Shared Objects like from the Flash player or do you mean Apollo will have a more robust larger Shared Object? Jason Merrill Bank of America Global Technology Operations Learning Leadership

Re: [flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo

2007-03-10 Thread shaun
dorkie, dorkie dork from dorktown wrote: btw, the way this thing works is by feature request (voting system). at least at the company i work for. so if you aren't asking for it ask for it now. http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform On 3/9/07, dorkie dork from

Re: [flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo

2007-03-10 Thread hank williams
Wow Shaun, Lots of stuff to vehemently disagree with. Your overstating the importance of a db on the client. Well, he may be. But let me just say this. For the last 20 years, most desktop apps have use a client side database. Generally in the MS world it used to be a library called Jet that

RE: [flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo

2007-03-10 Thread Agent RR-007
: Re: [flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo I think that if Adobe really wants to bill Apollo as taking the best-of web technology and putting it on the desktop, then they need to seriously consider including a DB that speaks SQL. Personally, I think it would be *fantastic* if Apollo was essentially

RE: [flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo

2007-03-10 Thread Merrill, Jason
I don't it should be that difficult to built database connectivity like zinc uses. That way it can communicate with stand alone dbs like ms access, etc... But then you have to deal with setting up installing that database on the user end. If it was built in to Apollo, it would be much easier.

Re: [flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo

2007-03-10 Thread dorkie dork from dorktown
i agree. it should be built in. at some point the Apollo team realized they needed to include built in support for HTML container and support css, etc. and not rely on outside technology being there. thats its strong point in that if it is built in we don't have to worry about installing

RE: [flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo

2007-03-10 Thread Matt Chotin
: [flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo btw, the way this thing works is by feature request (voting system). at least at the company i work for. so if you aren't asking for it ask for it now. http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm

RE: [flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo

2007-03-09 Thread Eric Guesdon
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Samuel R. Neff Envoyé : jeudi 8 mars 2007 15:38 À : flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Objet : RE: [flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo my hosting company supports sqlite. no mention of it. Actually SQLite is included as standard in PHP5 already.

RE: [flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo

2007-03-09 Thread Merrill, Jason
How much data could Apollo store locally when offline? I think this is where some of the concern lies around not having an integrated database availble in Apollo. Does anyone know? Shared objects at least in Flash player 9 are pretty limited in size. Does Apollo plan to store data locally in a

Re: [flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo

2007-03-09 Thread . m a r c o s a u g u s t o
This should be on the TOP priority how I'm suppose to make my app offline without a DB? This is not a should have.. its a must have. sqlite_count+=1; xD -- . m a r c o sa u g u s t o ; .eu vim para confundir e não para explicar!. . . - Chacrinha

Re: [flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo

2007-03-09 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Friday 09 Mar 2007, . m a r c o s a u g u s t o wrote: This should be on the TOP priority how I'm suppose to make my app offline without a DB? SharedObject. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to administratively revolutionize compelling design-patterns On: http://thefalken.livejournal.com

RE: [flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo

2007-03-09 Thread Merrill, Jason
SharedObject. You mean those little tiny 128k or whatever Shared Objects like from the Flash player or do you mean Apollo will have a more robust larger Shared Object? Jason Merrill Bank of America Global Technology Operations Learning Leadership Development eTools Multimedia Team

RE: [flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo

2007-03-09 Thread Matt Chotin
AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo SharedObject. You mean those little tiny 128k or whatever Shared Objects like from the Flash player or do you mean Apollo will have a more robust larger Shared Object? Jason Merrill Bank of America Global

RE: [flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo

2007-03-09 Thread Eric Guesdon
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Merrill, Jason Envoyé : vendredi 9 mars 2007 17:54 À : flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Objet : RE: [flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo SharedObject. You mean those little tiny 128k or whatever Shared Objects like from the Flash player or do you mean Apollo

Re: [flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo

2007-03-09 Thread Mike Chambers
If you are storing data with the File API, then there is no limit. mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Merrill, Jason wrote: How much data could Apollo store locally when offline? I think this is where some of the concern lies around not having an integrated database availble in Apollo.

Re: [flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo

2007-03-09 Thread Mike Chambers
Shared Objects. File API. mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] . m a r c o s a u g u s t o wrote: This should be on the TOP priority how I'm suppose to make my app offline without a DB? This is not a should have.. its a must have. sqlite_count+=1; xD

RE: [flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo

2007-03-09 Thread Merrill, Jason
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo Shared Objects. File API. mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:mesh%40adobe.com . m a r c o s a u g u s t o wrote

Re: [flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo

2007-03-09 Thread Troy Gilbert
@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* RE: [flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo SharedObject. You mean those little tiny 128k or whatever Shared Objects like from the Flash player or do you mean Apollo will have a more robust larger Shared Object? Jason Merrill Bank of America Global Technology Operations

Re: [flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo

2007-03-09 Thread dorkie dork from dorktown
: [flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo SharedObject. You mean those little tiny 128k or whatever Shared Objects like from the Flash player or do you mean Apollo will have a more robust larger Shared Object? Jason Merrill Bank of America Global Technology Operations Learning Leadership

Re: {Disarmed} RE: [flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo

2007-03-09 Thread Toby Tremayne
Learning Leadership Development eTools Multimedia Team From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Chambers Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 12:36 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo Shared Objects. File API. mike

Re: [flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo

2007-03-08 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Thursday 08 Mar 2007, dorkie dork from dorktown wrote: mysql is familiar and it is on nearly every online hosting company. if you want to port your app from desktop to online you don't have to rewrite your sql statements / queries. You should either be writing proper portable SQL, or using

RE: [flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo

2007-03-08 Thread Samuel R. Neff
my hosting company supports sqlite. no mention of it. Actually SQLite is included as standard in PHP5 already.

[flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo

2007-03-07 Thread Paul Whitelock
I'm working on Flex app that would be great for Apollo but it too requires DB access and I don't see how the app would ever work unless Apollo includes an integrated DB (I vote for MySQL too). I think that Apollo would generate a lot more interest if an integrated DB was included sooner rather

[flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo

2007-03-07 Thread helix206
. :) -David Apollo From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Tretola Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 9:03 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] DB access in Apollo This is what I am hoping for. Rich

[flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo

2007-03-07 Thread jason_williams_mm
I was looking for something more along the lines of: MySQL supports this particular SQL dialect, or has this feature which make development so much easier, etc...

Re: [flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo

2007-03-07 Thread Andrew D. Goodfellow
+1 sqlite for me as well. An embedded SQL database would add tremendous value in the B2B custom app realm where I live. -Andy

[flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo

2007-03-07 Thread Paul DeCoursey
I think it really depends on the application. I don't think there is any 1 database that could cover even 10% of the use cases. If they do bundle a database it would have to be something small and easily replaceable, because everyone will want to replace it, no matter what it is. Pd --- In

Re: [flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo

2007-03-07 Thread hank williams
On 3/7/07, Paul DeCoursey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it really depends on the application. I don't think there is any 1 database that could cover even 10% of the use cases. really? Not even 10% eh. So in the server market, MySQL, Oracle, MsSQL dont cover the majority of use cases with

Re: [flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo

2007-03-07 Thread dorkie dork from dorktown
mysql is familiar and it is on nearly every online hosting company. if you want to port your app from desktop to online you don't have to rewrite your sql statements / queries. just point to the online db. so portability. i dont want to learn another db. i know phpmyadmin and mysql. i dont know

[flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo

2007-03-06 Thread steve_benfield
, March 02, 2007 7:00 AM *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* RE: [flexcoders] DB access in Apollo Don't forget that Apollo will let us use our own installers… There's no reason you couldn't install your own database in addition to the Apollo application. Shan *From

[flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo

2007-03-06 Thread jason_williams_mm
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Impudent1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Russell Sprague wrote: I vote for MySQL. Agreed Impudent1 LeapFrog Productions Are there specific reasons why you want or need MySQL?

Re: [flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo

2007-03-06 Thread Jason King
Having a stand-alone environment that can connect to a database is handy for lots of kinds of applications. If we're having a wish list here, how about the ability to use jdbc drivers and include some local db + drivers, maybe derby or sqllite. Maybe I'm having flashbacks (pardon the pun) to my

Re: [flexcoders] Re: DB access in Apollo

2007-03-06 Thread dorkie dork from dorktown
familiarity for me, my vote as well. and if i need to ever take my db online i can point to mysql online db. On 3/6/07, jason_williams_mm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Impudent1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Russell Sprague wrote: I vote for MySQL. Agreed