Re: [flexcoders] Re: If Flex is open source, how do we go about changing the language?

2007-12-02 Thread Robert Thompson
My point was only to refer to the inherent exclusive danger of open source tools that Microsoft has had occasion to exploit, and that is the reliability of a construct if derivatives aren't controlled as there root. And I'm referring to the language not the classes. Requesting a feature change

RE: [flexcoders] Re: If Flex is open source, how do we go about changing the language?

2007-12-02 Thread Matt Chotin
I've moved this bug to https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/SDK-13808 since it is not related to the ActionScript compiler, it's only in the Flex classes. Matt From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of aceoohay Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 9:14 PM To:

RE: [flexcoders] Re: If Flex is open source, how do we go about changing the language?

2007-12-02 Thread Matt Chotin
And I guess let me add a few other things. 1) With regard to the bug itself, I'm guessing that the issue is that first item in the collection to be sorted has the null value. This is causing an error because we can't determine what kind of comparator to use by default. If your first

[flexcoders] Re: If Flex is open source, how do we go about changing the language?

2007-12-02 Thread aceoohay
Matt: Thanks for fixing the bug request. Yes, all nulls seem to sort high, but that means if you click the heading twice it always fails because the nulls sort to the top, and the sort algorithm fails on the second pass. One thing that could be done as a workaround, is to have the routine

[flexcoders] Re: If Flex is open source, how do we go about changing the language?

2007-12-01 Thread aceoohay
Ralf: The data has nulls in it. For example, one grid is equivalent to a checking account, with deposits and checks. The column for the check number is null for deposits. Another table has three different phone number fields, not everybody has three phone numbers. Another table has employee

[flexcoders] Re: If Flex is open source, how do we go about changing the language?

2007-12-01 Thread aceoohay
Robert: Yes this is an earnest request. While I do not shrink from controversy if I believe it will get things done, I don't needlessly whine either. I believe that it is important to make sure that we help the developers of our tools understand what is important to us consumers of the

RE: [flexcoders] Re: If Flex is open source, how do we go about changing the language?

2007-12-01 Thread Gordon Smith
Your use case seem very reasonable to me. In this particular case I disagree with my esteemed colleague Alex (who sits across from me)... I think our default sorting routines should handle null values. So please file this as a bug at http://bugs.adobe.com/flex and feel free to mention that I

[flexcoders] Re: If Flex is open source, how do we go about changing the language?

2007-12-01 Thread aceoohay
Gordon: This thread was not intended as a technical thread, which is why I didn't include the details about the problem. I documented the problem in the following post; http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/message/95131 The only responses I got seemed to indicate that the behavior

RE: [flexcoders] Re: If Flex is open source, how do we go about changing the language?

2007-12-01 Thread Alex Harui
So when we do go open-source next year, you will be able to offer changes to the source code like the Sort code (but not the language itself). Then Gordon and I and the rest of the team will duke it out over whether your submission is reasonable, and if so, it or something like it will be

[flexcoders] Re: If Flex is open source, how do we go about changing the language?

2007-12-01 Thread aceoohay
Gordon, et al: Here is a simple test that will show the problem; ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8? mx:Application xmlns:mx=http://www.adobe.com/2006/mxml; layout=absolute creationComplete=initApp() mx:Script ![CDATA[ import mx.collections.ArrayCollection;

[flexcoders] Re: If Flex is open source, how do we go about changing the language?

2007-12-01 Thread aceoohay
Gordon: Per your request I have filed a bug report. It can be found here; https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/ASC-3042 Paul --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, aceoohay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gordon, et al: Here is a simple test that will show the problem; ?xml version=1.0