RE: [flexcoders] Re: Java Pojo to AS pojo with ant

2005-11-22 Thread Mika Kiljunen
. marraskuuta 2005 17:01 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Re: Java Pojo to AS pojo with ant   Can we get back to Flex development?   This isn’t EJBCoders, PojoCoders, or HibernateCoders, its FlexCoders.   Ted :)   From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders

RE: [flexcoders] Re: Java Pojo to AS pojo with ant

2005-11-22 Thread Theodore E Patrick
: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Cc: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Java Pojo to AS pojo with ant   "Frank please read Dave's post about EJB. And please lets give proper names to the things. EJB and CMP will never more be the most popular persistence technology. "

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Java Pojo to AS pojo with ant

2005-11-22 Thread frank_krul
"Frank please read Dave's post about EJB. And please lets give proper names to the things. EJB and CMP will never more be the most popular persistence technology. "  I didn't want to mention alternatives like Toplink and Hibernate in an effort to keep the thread concise.  It is honest to say tha

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Java Pojo to AS pojo with ant

2005-11-22 Thread Mykola Paliyenko
Dave great post it is definitely worth more than .02$ :). Frank please read Dave's post about EJB. And please lets give proper names to the things. EJB and CMP will never more be the most popular persistence technology. Yeah maybe they are market leaders when it comes to money since others are

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Java Pojo to AS pojo with ant

2005-11-21 Thread frank_krul
Hi Guys,  I didn't want to mention alternatives like Toplink and Hibernate in an effort to keep the thread concise.  It is honest to say that for persistence frameworks EJB with CMP is the market leader since it is an ubiqitous technology; it appears in every J2EE compliant container.  That does

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Java Pojo to AS pojo with ant

2005-11-21 Thread Anatole Tartakovsky
xists. As a personal opinion I never seen anything "one-size-fits-all" that actually fits.   Thank you, Anatole Tartakovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dave Wolf To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 1:50 PM Subject:

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Java Pojo to AS pojo with ant

2005-11-21 Thread JesterXL
I knew someone would get it, hehe! - Original Message - From: "Blake Kadatz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 2:02 PM Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Re: Java Pojo to AS pojo with ant > EJB is about to die > Needs food badly! Ah... someone

RE: [flexcoders] Re: Java Pojo to AS pojo with ant

2005-11-21 Thread Blake Kadatz
> EJB is about to die > Needs food badly! Ah... someone else who spent way too many a quarter in his youth ensuring his life force didn't run out. :) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery

[flexcoders] Re: Java Pojo to AS pojo with ant

2005-11-21 Thread Dave Wolf
As you said, these are all opinions which are always driven by our own personal experiences. I do want to give a bit of background on my experiences, how they have effected my opinion, and why I as well as so many at Cynergy Systems are enamored with Flex, and why we build applications the way we

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Java Pojo to AS pojo with ant

2005-11-21 Thread Valy Sivec
EJB is about to die > Needs food badly! > > - Original Message - > From: Mykola Paliyenko > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 12:02 PM > Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Java Pojo to AS pojo > with ant > > > Frank > > Lets be

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Java Pojo to AS pojo with ant

2005-11-21 Thread JesterXL
EJB is about to die Needs food badly!   - Original Message - From: Mykola Paliyenko To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Java Pojo to AS pojo with ant Frank Lets be honest. I'm a guy that used to the Open S

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Java Pojo to AS pojo with ant

2005-11-21 Thread Mykola Paliyenko
Frank Lets be honest. I'm a guy that used to the Open Source Frameworks because the guys developing them are honest. They want only money for support, while the monsters that vote for EJB want to sell their IDEs and their application servers that supports that crappy heavy technology. It is

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Java Pojo to AS pojo with ant

2005-11-21 Thread frank_krul
I think we all have to realize that all of our declarations on this topic are relative to our own experiences.  That being said, if you use simple procedural JSPs, and servlets to expose DB backends using JDBC, then you might say EJB is dead.  On the other side of the coin, if you do large scale

[flexcoders] Re: Java Pojo to AS pojo with ant

2005-11-21 Thread Dave Wolf
I have a history with EJB which is as long as is feasibly possible (I was involved in the development of the actual EJB spec all the way back at version 0.4!). I am with you on the future of EJB. Our applications tend to be the "new wave" architecture where we run inside Tomcat using POJO's, sta

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Java Pojo to AS pojo with ant

2005-11-21 Thread Mykola Paliyenko
Yeah Dave, totally agree XDoclet and EJB sucks. Now we do not use XDoclet for java any more, we have Java 5.0 annotations. But I've found XDoclet2 suitable for generating interface between Java and Flex. People in flex team are really hapy that they do not have to maintain their Delegates and V

[flexcoders] Re: Java Pojo to AS pojo with ant

2005-11-21 Thread Dave Wolf
For those of you coming from a Flash background and are wondering what the heck an EJB with XDoclet annotations using a Velocity template to generate a stub for a POJO are.. Say hello to your distant cousins the Java programmer. I think you're going to see lots more of them. I also reccome