Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-22 Thread dorkie dork from dorktown
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] You are the product There is no one size fits all solution if you want to build a complex application. Flash might be a good choice for one and HTML for another and you might need to go native depending on what you are trying to do. Maybe you even want to use Java

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-19 Thread Peter Ginneberge
forward. The whole situation just feels like a regression to me. From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Winscot Sent: 18 December 2011 01:29 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] You are the product The charts

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-19 Thread ganaraj p r
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] You are the product The samples are ok, but it's the actual langue I dislike. I just doesn't feel very complete to me. I really don't want to take a step back when I was in fact hoping to be getting a new version of action script that moved the main

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-19 Thread Rick Winscot
+ To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] You are the product All that adobe needs to do is, start attempting to replace the current JS with AS3. Currently AS3 is a compiled language and JS is an interpreted language. Now can adobe

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-19 Thread ganaraj p r
: ganaraj p r ganara...@gmail.com Reply-To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:17:54 + To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] You are the product All that adobe needs to do is, start attempting

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-19 Thread Rogerio Gonzalez
: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:17:54 + To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] You are the product All that adobe needs to do is, start attempting to replace the current JS with AS3. Currently AS3 is a compiled language and JS is an interpreted

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-19 Thread ganaraj p r
10:17:54 + To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] You are the product All that adobe needs to do is, start attempting to replace the current JS with AS3. Currently AS3 is a compiled language and JS is an interpreted language. Now can adobe

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-19 Thread Carlos Rovira
: Sunday, December 18, 2011 6:45 PM Subject: RE: [flexcoders] You are the product The samples are ok, but it's the actual langue I dislike. I just doesn't feel very complete to me. I really don't want to take a step back when I was in fact hoping to be getting a new version

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-19 Thread John McCormack
The general consensus is that a. People hate Flash. ( dont really know why!!! after reading all the HTML 5 vs Flash articles... ) / Developers hate javascript ( atleast the people who like the OOP paradigm! ). b. Developers love AS3. ( Its the next best thing to chocolate! ) / People love

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-19 Thread Paul Andrews
On 19/12/2011 17:58, John McCormack wrote: The general consensus is that a. People hate Flash. ( dont really know why!!! after reading all the HTML 5 vs Flash articles... ) / Developers hate javascript ( atleast the people who like the OOP paradigm! ). b. Developers love AS3. ( Its the

RE: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-19 Thread Merrill, Jason
___ From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Andrews Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 1:18 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] You are the product On 19/12/2011 17:58, John McCormack wrote: The general consensus

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-18 Thread Rick Winscot
VanCuren Jr robert.vancuren...@gmail.com Reply-To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 01:01:27 -0500 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] You are the product There is no one size fits all

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-18 Thread Haykel BEN JEMIA
...@gmail.com Reply-To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 01:01:27 -0500 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] You are the product There is no one size fits all solution if you want to build a complex application

RE: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-18 Thread Glenn Williams
feels like a regression to me. From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Winscot Sent: 18 December 2011 01:29 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] You are the product The charts? The dashboard? The app as a whole? Yes. I'd

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-18 Thread Csomák Gábor
just feels like a regression to me. *From:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Rick Winscot *Sent:* 18 December 2011 01:29 *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [flexcoders] You are the product The charts? The dashboard? The app

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-18 Thread Alex Harui
language even further forward. The whole situation just feels like a regression to me. From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Winscot Sent: 18 December 2011 01:29 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-17 Thread Guy Morton
: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin MacDonald Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 12:50 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] You are the product Good points. Thanks for responding. I'm not sure why you conflate me

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-17 Thread Scott Fanetti
16, 2011 12:50 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] You are the product Good points. Thanks for responding. I'm not sure why you conflate me knocking Adobe for a lack of willingness to learn. I code on a daily basis in half a dozen languages for a small

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-17 Thread Dave Glasser
Can you do something comparable to this with HTML5/JS/CSS? http://examples2.idashboards.com/idashboards/?guestuser=wputil1dashID=260 If so, do you have any links to examples? From: Guy Morton g...@alchemy.com.au Using HTML/JS/CSS you CAN do apps that look

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-17 Thread Rick Winscot
) To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] You are the product Can you do something comparable to this with HTML5/JS/CSS? http://examples2.idashboards.com/idashboards/?guestuser=wputil1dashID=260 If so, do you have any links to examples

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-17 Thread Robert VanCuren Jr
dglas...@pobox.com Reply-To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 17:22:39 -0800 (PST) To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] You are the product Can you do something comparable to this with HTML5/JS/CSS

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-16 Thread Csomák Gábor
technology simply changes. i met a guy who was the lead engineer of commodore 64. do you think when he was on the top of his career, he stopped learning? this segment changes a lot. it is a lifelong learning. get used to it. html5 is not ready. even w3c says it'll be in 2014 (as i remember). and

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-16 Thread Kevin MacDonald
Good points. Thanks for responding. I'm not sure why you conflate me knocking Adobe for a lack of willingness to learn. I code on a daily basis in half a dozen languages for a small company struggling to reach profitability. Our client application is one piece of that. The 'learning' in this case

RE: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-16 Thread Bill Brutzman
a standards-based Flash lite could be cranked into HTML-6. --Bill From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin MacDonald Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 12:50 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] You are the product Good

RE: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-16 Thread Mihai Vrinceanu
. Adobe should make it open source, invest money in future versions and sell support services (RedHat tactics).  --- On Fri, 12/16/11, Bill Brutzman bill.brutz...@scottynow.com wrote: From: Bill Brutzman bill.brutz...@scottynow.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] You are the product To: flexcoders

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-16 Thread Guy Morton
] On Behalf Of Kevin MacDonald Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 12:50 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] You are the product Good points. Thanks for responding. I'm not sure why you conflate me knocking Adobe for a lack of willingness to learn. I code on a daily

RE: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-16 Thread Gordon Smith
Of Mihai Vrinceanu Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 11:20 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] You are the product Flash Player is a virtual machine. Last time I opened a *.swf file in a hex editor, it was a compressed file (I think zlib). After you decompress the file, you have

RE: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-16 Thread Bill Brutzman
@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Guy Morton Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 4:16 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] You are the product SVG + Javascript + Canvas ARE the equivalent to Flash in the web standards world. On 17/12/2011, at 5:16 AM, Bill Brutzman wrote

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-16 Thread Scott Fanetti
be cranked into HTML-6. --Bill From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin MacDonald Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 12:50 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] You are the product Good points. Thanks

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-16 Thread Peter Ginneberge
, December 16, 2011 7:16 PM Subject: RE: [flexcoders] You are the product My sense is that Adobe has realized that it close to impossible to port Flash to the staggering proliferation of tablets, smart phones, and other devices. Does anybody expect Flash to run on a Kindle or a Nook? In my little