[flexcoders] Re: Flex 4 - data push

2009-10-10 Thread fgnowfg
I guess it doesn't exist, then. Here's an example of the real-time feature I am 
seeking: I created the app and am connected w/ my mysql database. I open two 
browsers and changes made in browser 1 appear in browser 2. So far, so good. 
However, if I bypass the flex app completely and make a change on the database 
or add a new record it won't show up until I refresh the flex app, which is not 
acceptable for any production environment. I have to hand it to the adobe 
evangelists for being able to point out the good features of flex  lcds and 
completely ignore reality as many databases don't get populated via the 
front-end UI. I guess I'll have to wait until flex 5 and lcds 4 for this 
feature to be implemented. For now, it seems we wasted development time and $ 
on LCDS  flex. 

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, fgnowfg fgno...@... wrote:

 Does anyone know of a tutorial for data push in flex 4? All I can find is 
 people blogging about it but no one has a complete tutorial. I can do 
 non-real time data w/ tomcat server and only need tutorial on data push. thx!





[flexcoders] Re: Flex 4 - data push

2009-10-10 Thread fgnowfg
Are there any tutorials on the methods you suggest? I can't find any good 
explanations on how to implement it w/ mysql

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey Vroom j...@... wrote:

 LCDS won't automatically pick up changes from the database unfortunately.
  There is an api you can use if you control the code making the changes -
 see flex.data.DataServiceTransaction.  You also could do some kind of
 polling on the server using the DataServiceTransaction.refreshFill method...
 it would look for changes and when it finds them it would push them out to
 the client.
 Jeff
 
 On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 10:00 AM, fgnowfg fgno...@... wrote:
 
 
 
  I guess it doesn't exist, then. Here's an example of the real-time feature
  I am seeking: I created the app and am connected w/ my mysql database. I
  open two browsers and changes made in browser 1 appear in browser 2. So far,
  so good. However, if I bypass the flex app completely and make a change on
  the database or add a new record it won't show up until I refresh the flex
  app, which is not acceptable for any production environment. I have to hand
  it to the adobe evangelists for being able to point out the good features of
  flex  lcds and completely ignore reality as many databases don't get
  populated via the front-end UI. I guess I'll have to wait until flex 5 and
  lcds 4 for this feature to be implemented. For now, it seems we wasted
  development time and $ on LCDS  flex.
 
  --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com,
  fgnowfg fgnowfg@ wrote:
  
   Does anyone know of a tutorial for data push in flex 4? All I can find is
  people blogging about it but no one has a complete tutorial. I can do
  non-real time data w/ tomcat server and only need tutorial on data push.
  thx!
  
 
   
 





[flexcoders] Re: Flex 4 - data push

2009-10-10 Thread fgnowfg
Can I just turn on polling somehow? Would that do it?

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, fgnowfg fgno...@... wrote:

 Are there any tutorials on the methods you suggest? I can't find any good 
 explanations on how to implement it w/ mysql
 
 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey Vroom jeff@ wrote:
 
  LCDS won't automatically pick up changes from the database unfortunately.
   There is an api you can use if you control the code making the changes -
  see flex.data.DataServiceTransaction.  You also could do some kind of
  polling on the server using the DataServiceTransaction.refreshFill method...
  it would look for changes and when it finds them it would push them out to
  the client.
  Jeff
  
  On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 10:00 AM, fgnowfg fgnowfg@ wrote:
  
  
  
   I guess it doesn't exist, then. Here's an example of the real-time feature
   I am seeking: I created the app and am connected w/ my mysql database. I
   open two browsers and changes made in browser 1 appear in browser 2. So 
   far,
   so good. However, if I bypass the flex app completely and make a change on
   the database or add a new record it won't show up until I refresh the flex
   app, which is not acceptable for any production environment. I have to 
   hand
   it to the adobe evangelists for being able to point out the good features 
   of
   flex  lcds and completely ignore reality as many databases don't get
   populated via the front-end UI. I guess I'll have to wait until flex 5 and
   lcds 4 for this feature to be implemented. For now, it seems we wasted
   development time and $ on LCDS  flex.
  
   --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com,
   fgnowfg fgnowfg@ wrote:
   
Does anyone know of a tutorial for data push in flex 4? All I can find 
is
   people blogging about it but no one has a complete tutorial. I can do
   non-real time data w/ tomcat server and only need tutorial on data push.
   thx!
   
  

  
 





[flexcoders] Flex 4 - data push

2009-10-09 Thread fgnowfg
Does anyone know of a tutorial for data push in flex 4? All I can find is 
people blogging about it but no one has a complete tutorial. I can do non-real 
time data w/ tomcat server and only need tutorial on data push. thx!



[flexcoders] Re: Flex 4 - data push

2009-10-09 Thread fgnowfg
I should point out I am using lcds and flex 4. I've seen a couple examples of 
doing this in flex 3 but something I read said flex 4's data push is diff. than 
flex 3's, hence my question. thx



[flexcoders] Openx

2009-09-28 Thread fgnowfg
Anyone try this? I can't seem to get it to work w/ flex

www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/advertising_flex.html




[flexcoders] Re: Adsense

2009-09-28 Thread fgnowfg
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Jeffry Houser j...@... wrote:

 
  +1 to Paul.
 
  Adobe is making a programming platform.  Do you C++, C#, ASP.NET, or 
 Java have native hooks to advertising networks?  No, nor do I believe 
 they should. 
 
 Paul Andrews wrote:
   
 
  fgnowfg wrote:
   --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, fgnowfg fgnowfg@ wrote:
  
   I know it's a question that's popped up on this board time and 
  againwhat is the best way to publish ads in flex? The only thing 
  I've come across is the iFrame hack and adsense and it seems to be a 
  hack at best. Is there a better way? It doesn't even have to be 
  adsense, I just want to make some money from my flex-based website. 
  Any thoughts appreciated.
  
   thx!
  
  
  
   It just seems that adobe is shooting themselves in the foot by not 
  providing a way for their web developing customers (us!) to make 
  money. Seriously, how do people make money with flex? Seems more and 
  more a waste of time for us without this key point resolved.
  
  That's ridiculous. I think if advertising is a priority, you could let
  flex have part of the html page and serve ads there, either under
  control of the flex application, using javascript, or just independently
  with javascript, with or without an iframe. I think a bit of imagination
  is required.
 
  I think most flex developers make money from things that are useful for
  something rather than advertising bling.
 
  Paul
 
  
 
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 +1 to Paul

I'm sorry, what?



[flexcoders] Re: Adsense

2009-09-28 Thread fgnowfg
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Dan Pride danielpr...@... wrote:

 Why don't you just call adsense with Css on the html page and size the flex 
 portion appropriately or doesn't that fit with the design?
 Easy hack but it works reall good
 Dan Pride
 

I've tried that, but am not getting targeted ads, just a bunch of PSAs.  Do you 
have a template you could send me? If so, either post here or email: 
fgno...@gmail.com



[flexcoders] Re: Adsense

2009-09-28 Thread fgnowfg
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, fgnowfg fgno...@... wrote:

 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Dan Pride danielpride@ wrote:
 
  Why don't you just call adsense with Css on the html page and size the flex 
  portion appropriately or doesn't that fit with the design?
  Easy hack but it works reall good
  Dan Pride
  
 
 I've tried that, but am not getting targeted ads, just a bunch of PSAs.  Do 
 you have a template you could send me? If so, either post here or email: 
 fgno...@...


I need the ad to be targeted but all I want the user to see is the flex 
application and the ad...to get targeted ads I would need to put some hidden 
(from the viewpoint of the user) text on the page, which most likely violates 
Adsense TOS.




[flexcoders] Adsense

2009-09-27 Thread fgnowfg
I know it's a question that's popped up on this board time and againwhat is 
the best way to publish ads in flex? The only thing I've come across is the 
iFrame hack and adsense and it seems to be a hack at best. Is there a better 
way? It doesn't even have to be adsense, I just want to make some money from my 
flex-based website. Any thoughts appreciated.

thx!



[flexcoders] Re: Adsense

2009-09-27 Thread fgnowfg
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, fgnowfg fgno...@... wrote:

 I know it's a question that's popped up on this board time and againwhat 
 is the best way to publish ads in flex? The only thing I've come across is 
 the iFrame hack and adsense and it seems to be a hack at best. Is there a 
 better way? It doesn't even have to be adsense, I just want to make some 
 money from my flex-based website. Any thoughts appreciated.
 
 thx!


It just seems that adobe is shooting themselves in the foot by not providing a 
way for their web developing customers (us!) to make money. Seriously, how do 
people make money with flex? Seems more and more a waste of time for us without 
this key point resolved.



[flexcoders] Re: Adsense

2009-09-27 Thread fgnowfg
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, fgnowfg fgno...@... wrote:

 I know it's a question that's popped up on this board time and againwhat 
 is the best way to publish ads in flex? The only thing I've come across is 
 the iFrame hack and adsense and it seems to be a hack at best. Is there a 
 better way? It doesn't even have to be adsense, I just want to make some 
 money from my flex-based website. Any thoughts appreciated.
 
 thx!


It seems like Adobe is just shooting themselves in the foot the longer they 
wait to easily incorporate a way for developers (or, ultimately whoever ends up 
owning the website) to generate revenue w/ flex. The more I think about it, the 
more it just seems like flex is a complete waste of time until they get this 
resolved.