[flexcoders] Flex Pricing: Relax!

2005-03-31 Thread Vinny Timmermans





I have started many discussions on Flex pricing, and 
contributed heavily to each and every other previous Flex pricing post, because 
I was convinced that Flex pricing killed my and other Flex lovers' 
opportunities. The reason why I did not contribute until so far is simple. I 
have experienced that for hot opportunities Macromedia is willing to work out 
the right deal for you and your customer. They don't kill your opportunities. 
This is a proven fact. So if you think Flex may be the right solution for your 
customer's business problem, don't let the pricetag intimidate you. Contact 
Macromedia and work it out!

The real threat, however, comes from a different corner. 
High price tags might frighten developers to seriously invest in Flex. Return on 
investment may seem far lower than frominvesting in any other 
platform.The number of experienced, professional Flex developers is low at 
the moment and may not rise fast enough to realize all Flex opportunities that 
pop-up in the market in the coming years.Therefore it is absolutely 
necessary that Macromedia will provide a range of other Flex packages soon. 
Fromlow-cost (stripped down server-based versions) to no-cost (just mxml 
compilation without server-based features; the developer-centered Flash 
alternative).The critical success factor in the next period is not 
the Flex price tag, but the number of experienced, highly qualified developers 
out there that master MXML and AS2 and can rapidly create the killer 
applications Flex can offer. Don't make it a second ColdFusion:powerful 
platform, excellent programming language, not enough 
developers.

Vinny







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Re: [flexcoders] Flex Pricing: Relax!

2005-03-31 Thread JesterXL





I agree with the high price tag only affecting some 
people. For those who have experienced software lifecycles and had a taste 
of the budget it takes to pull those things off, Flex is affordable, and fits in 
nicely to the workflow in a big company.

The other side is education; I had a long talk with 
my managers yesterday about the possibility of using Flex. I had figured 
we were too small of a company (about 14 people), and our clients couldn't 
afford it. I was wrong. Some clients only care about speed to 
delivery; Flex can do that, I know for a fact, I've been using it since I got my 
license in all my free time. They have no problems paying fee's to get to 
end results quicker, when those quicker results really don't cost them as much 
to get there. Flash? Flex? They don't care, they want it 
tomorrow. Flex is quicker.

I did communicate the only thing I don't like about 
Flex, and that was no source code (at least, not complete). In Flash, if 
something goes wrong, I can look at the code, find the problem, and either fix 
it, or work around it. I don't mind being held accountable by my managers 
for Flash, but I certainly didn't want to be held accountable for Flex. 
They, however, were cool and said if I document what I did, and document what 
Macromedia/Flexcoders says in response, then there is nothing I can do, and they 
understand that.


- Original Message - 
From: Vinny Timmermans 
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 11:26 PM
Subject: [flexcoders] Flex Pricing: Relax!

I have started many discussions on Flex pricing, and 
contributed heavily to each and every other previous Flex pricing post, because 
I was convinced that Flex pricing killed my and other Flex lovers' 
opportunities. The reason why I did not contribute until so far is simple. I 
have experienced that for hot opportunities Macromedia is willing to work out 
the right deal for you and your customer. They don't kill your opportunities. 
This is a proven fact. So if you think Flex may be the right solution for your 
customer's business problem, don't let the pricetag intimidate you. Contact 
Macromedia and work it out!

The real threat, however, comes from a different corner. 
High price tags might frighten developers to seriously invest in Flex. Return on 
investment may seem far lower than frominvesting in any other 
platform.The number of experienced, professional Flex developers is low at 
the moment and may not rise fast enough to realize all Flex opportunities that 
pop-up in the market in the coming years.Therefore it is absolutely 
necessary that Macromedia will provide a range of other Flex packages soon. 
Fromlow-cost (stripped down server-based versions) to no-cost (just mxml 
compilation without server-based features; the developer-centered Flash 
alternative).The critical success factor in the next period is not 
the Flex price tag, but the number of experienced, highly qualified developers 
out there that master MXML and AS2 and can rapidly create the killer 
applications Flex can offer. Don't make it a second ColdFusion:powerful 
platform, excellent programming language, not enough 
developers.

Vinny







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