[flexcoders] Flex Books - Detailed/Nitty-Gritty
I'm looking for one or more books to really dive into Flex (and perhaps AS3). I know the basics and have been using it for a while, but I really want to get into the advanced topics and the details for some serious Flex development. Most of the books I've seen all seem to have the some Table of Contents covering very basic stuff. Is there anything out there that covers all the details (you know sometimes when you read a blog, or watch a videocast you find out about a little nugget of information you had never heard of)? Thanks!
Re: [flexcoders] Flex Books - Detailed/Nitty-Gritty
This strikes me a bit odd - what do people think Flex is ? It is simply a tool for AS3 development - or do people think this is a RAD tool like VB where everything is just point and click with no code ? Craig - unfortunately the actual best book is the Adobe online tutorials and API reference - its not terribly difficult to pick up once you have an understanding or background in C# or Java. If you are new to the development scene, then obviously flex will be rather more daunting - but it is worthwhile. On Sep 26, 2008, at 12:43 PM, cwicky99 wrote: I'm looking for one or more books to really dive into Flex (and perhaps AS3). I know the basics and have been using it for a while, but I really want to get into the advanced topics and the details for some serious Flex development. Most of the books I've seen all seem to have the some Table of Contents covering very basic stuff. Is there anything out there that covers all the details (you know sometimes when you read a blog, or watch a videocast you find out about a little nugget of information you had never heard of)? Thanks!
Re: [flexcoders] Flex books
I have bought all the books out there that have been printed so far (and it's not many :( at the moment. Programming Flex 2 is not out yet and only available in rough draft, and even that is only a few chapters that are posted (57 pages available out of 580) actionscript 3.0 cookbook is good, i liked it, useful for the future. most cookbooks were a good purchase. flex 2 training from the source seems to be mostly a waste for developers who already have something to build upon, while for beginners it might be excellent.. they have EXTEREMELY detailed step-by-step directions that make it difficult for people to just extract information, while for beginners such hand-holding is exactly what's needed. overall, what i would really recommend is reading the pdfs of documentation on adobe site. Flex2 has some of the BEST documentation i've ever seen, and it covers pretty much everything, i recommend reading the whole thing, it would probably serve you better than any books out there at the moment. -A On 2/5/07, Stembert Olivier (BIL) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi flexcoders, Is it worth buying these books??? Programming Flex2 ActionScript 3.0 Cookbook Did you read and recomment them? Rgds, Olivier - An electronic message is not binding on its sender. Any message referring to a binding engagement must be confirmed in writing and duly signed. -
Re: [flexcoders] Flex books
Both of these books are good. And remember, a lot more books are due out soon. http://www.leifwells.com/index.cfm/2006/12/11/Upcoming-Books-for-Flex-and-Actionscript Leif
Re: [flexcoders] Flex books
I'd like to throw out an additional recommendation Advanced Actionscript 3 with Design Patterns I think it just came out recently. I noticed it last week and gave it a chance. I really like it. They just cover the basic ones that you are likely familiar with at least at a high level, but they do it very well and thoroughly with simple, interesting, examples that are fun to read and in a nice style. They are pretty short and direct also, when it comes to the exposition that makes a lot of the pattern books really boring. And it's small enough that you can read it in bed without breaking your nose, always a plus for a computer book. The cookbook is fun and probably useful for most folk at some point. On 2/5/07, Andrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have bought all the books out there that have been printed so far (and it's not many :( at the moment. Programming Flex 2 is not out yet and only available in rough draft, and even that is only a few chapters that are posted (57 pages available out of 580) actionscript 3.0 cookbook is good, i liked it, useful for the future. most cookbooks were a good purchase. flex 2 training from the source seems to be mostly a waste for developers who already have something to build upon, while for beginners it might be excellent.. they have EXTEREMELY detailed step-by-step directions that make it difficult for people to just extract information, while for beginners such hand-holding is exactly what's needed. overall, what i would really recommend is reading the pdfs of documentation on adobe site. Flex2 has some of the BEST documentation i've ever seen, and it covers pretty much everything, i recommend reading the whole thing, it would probably serve you better than any books out there at the moment. -A On 2/5/07, Stembert Olivier (BIL) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi flexcoders, Is it worth buying these books??? Programming Flex2 ActionScript 3.0 Cookbook Did you read and recomment them? Rgds, Olivier - An electronic message is not binding on its sender. Any message referring to a binding engagement must be confirmed in writing and duly signed. -
Re: [flexcoders] Flex books
Is there any particular book out yet you would recommend for someone who is not as much of a programmer? Or are there good websites at this point they will help you get your feet under you with Flex 2? I'm tasked with helping another person get into Flex and I'm having a difficult time figuring out where he should start. -- Jason
RE: [flexcoders] Flex books
There are 30 or so short 'QuickStart' articles on the Flex Dev Center for people new to Flex: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/ Stephen From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pan Troglodytes Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 11:16 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex books Is there any particular book out yet you would recommend for someone who is not as much of a programmer? Or are there good websites at this point they will help you get your feet under you with Flex 2? I'm tasked with helping another person get into Flex and I'm having a difficult time figuring out where he should start. -- Jason
Re: [flexcoders] Flex books
Sometimes the best way to learn is to get thrown into the fire. Have them go to http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flex/2/ and run through with Getting Started with Flex 2. Once they get their feet wet with the FlexBuilder IDE, they will know whether MXML/AS3 is for them or not. It also provides an early conditioning to rely on liveDocs. As said before, liveDocs is great. My experience with Flex is that it's aimed at programmers who work with the Flash Player, who want to implement development techniques used by programmers in other languages. If your not much of a programmer to begin with, you will be having a difficult time leveraging the product. -mL Pan Troglodytes wrote: Is there any particular book out yet you would recommend for someone who is not as much of a programmer? Or are there good websites at this point they will help you get your feet under you with Flex 2? I'm tasked with helping another person get into Flex and I'm having a difficult time figuring out where he should start. -- Jason
Re: [flexcoders] Flex books
The Training from the source would be a good start. On 2/5/07, Pan Troglodytes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any particular book out yet you would recommend for someone who is not as much of a programmer? Or are there good websites at this point they will help you get your feet under you with Flex 2? I'm tasked with helping another person get into Flex and I'm having a difficult time figuring out where he should start. -- Jason -- http://indeegrumpee.spaces.live.com/
Re: [flexcoders] Flex books
Well, in this case I'd say the boss has already decided the Flex is for them. ;) On 2/5/07, Mark Lapasa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sometimes the best way to learn is to get thrown into the fire. Have them go to http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flex/2/ and run through with Getting Started with Flex 2. Once they get their feet wet with the FlexBuilder IDE, they will know whether MXML/AS3 is for them or not. It also provides an early conditioning to rely on liveDocs. As said before, liveDocs is great. My experience with Flex is that it's aimed at programmers who work with the Flash Player, who want to implement development techniques used by programmers in other languages. If your not much of a programmer to begin with, you will be having a difficult time leveraging the product. -mL Pan Troglodytes wrote: Is there any particular book out yet you would recommend for someone who is not as much of a programmer? Or are there good websites at this point they will help you get your feet under you with Flex 2? I'm tasked with helping another person get into Flex and I'm having a difficult time figuring out where he should start. -- Jason -- Jason
[flexcoders] Flex books
Hi flexcoders, Is it worth buying these books??? Programming Flex2 ActionScript 3.0 Cookbook Did you read and recomment them? Rgds, Olivier - An electronic message is not binding on its sender. Any message referring to a binding engagement must be confirmed in writing and duly signed. -
Re: [flexcoders] Flex books
Can't speak for Programming Flex 2 but I'd recommend the Cookbook for sure... Brendan On 2/4/07, Stembert Olivier (BIL) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi flexcoders, Is it worth buying these books??? Programming Flex2 ActionScript 3.0 Cookbook Did you read and recomment them? Rgds, Olivier - An electronic message is not binding on its sender. Any message referring to a binding engagement must be confirmed in writing and duly signed. - -- Brendan Meutzner Stretch Media - RIA Adobe Flex Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stretchmedia.ca
[flexcoders] Flex Books? Suggestions...
Hi, Just joined the list... Nice to meet ya'll! :D Background: I can do Flash (been using it on/off for years), PHP, CSS, XHTML... Yadda... I am just now learning about Flex... Looks promising. Anyone have good book recommendations? I would prefer something fast-paced and not super-noob. Found this on Amazon, but not yet released: http://snipurl.com/vrth Any suggestions would be great. :) Cheers, Micky -- Wishlist: http://snipurl.com/vrs9 Switch: http://browsehappy.com/ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Flex Books? Suggestions...
There's the RIA book that's currently in it's pre-release stage. I've seen some drafts and I can say it seems promising. I guess that the url is www.ria-book.com, not sure though. Marcelo.On 9/1/06, Micky Hulse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Just joined the list... Nice to meet ya'll! :D Background: I can do Flash (been using it on/off for years), PHP, CSS, XHTML... Yadda... I am just now learning about Flex... Looks promising. Anyone have good book recommendations? I would prefer something fast-paced and not super-noob. Found this on Amazon, but not yet released: http://snipurl.com/vrth Any suggestions would be great. :) Cheers, Micky -- Wishlist: http://snipurl.com/vrs9 Switch: http://browsehappy.com/ __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Software development tool Software development Software development services Home design software Software development company YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [flexcoders] Flex Books? Suggestions...
Micky, 3rd party books are not yet out. Video based training is already out (including Lynda.com as Chris pointed out.) Renaun put up an informal (but pretty complete) list of current and forthcoming 3rd party titles here: http://renaun.com/blog/2006/06/27/49/ Your #1 first stop should be the free PDF docs that Adobe provides (7 books, combined total of 3,200 pages): http://www.adobe.com/support/documentation/en/flex/ Granted the Adobe docs are not fast-paced (but nor are they super-noob). Be forewarned, coming up to speed on ActionScript 3 is a big part of commanding mastery of Flex 2. And the amount of change between this version of ActionScript and the one before it is arguably greater than the past version to version changes in ActionScript. (But AS3/FP9 does give you amazing things you never had before in Flash/AS like real error messages, a debugger, etc.) hth, g On 9/1/06, Micky Hulse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Just joined the list... Nice to meet ya'll! :D Background: I can do Flash (been using it on/off for years), PHP, CSS, XHTML... Yadda... I am just now learning about Flex... Looks promising. Anyone have good book recommendations? I would prefer something fast-paced and not super-noob. Found this on Amazon, but not yet released: http://snipurl.com/vrth Any suggestions would be great. :) Cheers, Micky -- Wishlist: http://snipurl.com/vrs9 Switch: http://browsehappy.com/ . __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Software development tool Software development Software development services Home design software Software development company YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [flexcoders] Flex Books? Suggestions...
Did someone say PHP... ? That's what I call timing.http://www.themidnightcoders.com/blog/Looks like they'll be releasing a php version of FDS in the next few hours... On 9/1/06, Micky Hulse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Just joined the list... Nice to meet ya'll! :D Background: I can do Flash (been using it on/off for years), PHP, CSS, XHTML... Yadda... I am just now learning about Flex... Looks promising. Anyone have good book recommendations? I would prefer something fast-paced and not super-noob. Found this on Amazon, but not yet released: http://snipurl.com/vrth Any suggestions would be great. :) Cheers, Micky -- Wishlist: http://snipurl.com/vrs9 Switch: http://browsehappy.com/ __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Software development tool Software development Software development services Home design software Software development company YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [flexcoders] Flex Books? Suggestions...
Forgot to mention it''s opensource. On 9/1/06, Clint Modien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did someone say PHP... ? That's what I call timing.http://www.themidnightcoders.com/blog/ Looks like they'll be releasing a php version of FDS in the next few hours... On 9/1/06, Micky Hulse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Just joined the list... Nice to meet ya'll! :D Background: I can do Flash (been using it on/off for years), PHP, CSS, XHTML... Yadda... I am just now learning about Flex... Looks promising. Anyone have good book recommendations? I would prefer something fast-paced and not super-noob. Found this on Amazon, but not yet released: http://snipurl.com/vrth Any suggestions would be great. :) Cheers, Micky -- Wishlist: http://snipurl.com/vrs9 Switch: http://browsehappy.com/ __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Software development tool Software development Software development services Home design software Software development company YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [flexcoders] Flex Books? Suggestions...
>From a configuration perspective it's like FDS but it's RPC only, no RTMP.ThijsOp 1-sep-2006, om 17:15 heeft Clint Modien het volgende geschreven:Did someone say PHP... ? That's what I call timing.http://www.themidnightcoders.com/blog/Looks like they'll be releasing a php version of FDS in the next few hours... On 9/1/06, Micky Hulse [EMAIL PROTECTED]com wrote:Hi,Just joined the list... Nice to meet ya'll! :DBackground: I can do Flash (been using it on/off for years), PHP, CSS, XHTML... Yadda...I am just now learning about Flex... Looks promising.Anyone have good book recommendations? I would prefer something fast-paced and not super-noob.Found this on Amazon, but not yet released:http://snipurl.com/vrthAny suggestions would be great. :)Cheers,Micky-- Wishlist: http://snipurl.com/vrs9Switch: http://browsehappy.com/ __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Software development tool Software development Software development services Home design software Software development company YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [flexcoders] Flex Books? Suggestions...
Did someone say PHP... ? That's what I call timing.http://www.themidnightcoders.com/blog/ Looks like they'll be releasing a php version of FDS in the next few hours... You're kidding!? That's some great news!!Marcelo.On 9/1/06, Thijs Triemstra | Collab [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a configuration perspective it's like FDS but it's RPC only, no RTMP.ThijsOp 1-sep-2006, om 17:15 heeft Clint Modien het volgende geschreven: Did someone say PHP... ? That's what I call timing. http://www.themidnightcoders.com/blog/ Looks like they'll be releasing a php version of FDS in the next few hours... On 9/1/06, Micky Hulse [EMAIL PROTECTED]com wrote: Hi,Just joined the list... Nice to meet ya'll! :D Background: I can do Flash (been using it on/off for years), PHP, CSS, XHTML... Yadda... I am just now learning about Flex... Looks promising.Anyone have good book recommendations? I would prefer something fast-paced and not super-noob. Found this on Amazon, but not yet released: http://snipurl.com/vrth Any suggestions would be great. :) Cheers, Micky-- Wishlist: http://snipurl.com/vrs9 Switch: http://browsehappy.com/ __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Software development tool Software development Software development services Home design software Software development company YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [flexcoders] Flex Books? Suggestions...
Micky Hulse wrote: Any suggestions would be great. :) Ah, great suggestions so far, thanks all! Looking through the links and researching your suggestions now. So, maybe I should re-phrase: Rather than book suggestions... Links to tutorials, examples, dev websites, blogs, and/or anything else you think might be helpful when it comes to learning this new technology -- don't hold back. :) Actually, any good examples out of well-designed Flex-based apps? A resource something like www.cssbeauty.com would be cool... you know, maybe www.flexbeauty.com? :D Wow, I am pretty excited... Flex looks like a nice merging of current web technologies, accessibility practices, and Flash - kick butt! Thanks! Cheers, Micky -- Wishlist: http://snipurl.com/vrs9 Switch: http://browsehappy.com/ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Flex Books . . .
good moring everyone. . . . i was looking around for possible Flex books and of course saw what may be the only one Developing Rich Clients with Macromedia Flex is written around Flex 1.0. Is there an updated version planned or any new Flex books in the works that anyone knows of? I'll probably end up getting the one mentioned about, im just curious about anything on the horizon. thanks everyone. -- -chris.alvarado [application developer] -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] Flex Books . . .
Chris, We will be writing an updated version of the Flex book, but there won't be an updated version of the book for Flex 1.5. I can't discuss content or timescales at this stage (as we haven't written any, and don't have any). I'd recommend that you purchase the version of the book that is available right now, for your current application development needs. At a future point in time, we'll poll the readership here for some of the things they'd like to see in a new book; but please don't provide any thoughts right now, as we're not yet ready to absorb them. Best wishes, Steven -- Steven Webster Technical Director iteration::two This e-mail and any associated attachments transmitted with it may contain confidential information and must not be copied, or disclosed, or used by anyone other than the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please destroy this e-mail, and any copies of it, immediately. Please also note that while software systems have been used to try to ensure that this e-mail has been swept for viruses, iteration::two do not accept responsibility for any damage or loss caused in respect of any viruses transmitted by the e-mail. Please ensure your own checks are carried out before any attachments are opened. -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chris.alvarado Sent: 14 July 2005 16:08 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Flex Books . . . good moring everyone. . . . i was looking around for possible Flex books and of course saw what may be the only one Developing Rich Clients with Macromedia Flex is written around Flex 1.0. Is there an updated version planned or any new Flex books in the works that anyone knows of? I'll probably end up getting the one mentioned about, im just curious about anything on the horizon. thanks everyone. -- -chris.alvarado [application developer] -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
