Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex server language

2009-02-21 Thread Paul Hastings 
Amy wrote:
> An important difference between ColdFusion and php, as you rightly 
> pointed out, is that php is installed on the server only--you don't 

so is cf.

> need any special software to write php code, and you don't need any 
> background knowledge other than what you need for any other web 
> technoloty.  I don't know much about ColdFusion, but I do know that 
> the pages are compiled, so I wouldn't be able to just walk in and use 
> CF without at least figuring out how to go from source code to 
> compiled whatever.  There are probably several other things like that 

you write the code (any old text editor will do), put it up on your cf server & 
it compiles the code & runs it. all you need to do is simply "call" that code 
from your browser. period.

> that you need to learn in CF before you can actually become 
> productive, so it's not just installation time, it's that whole other 
> mass of "stuff" you need to know before you can use CF.

like what? SQL? CSS? HTML? oh wait, you need to know the same for PHP, don't 
you? no, you don't need to know any sort of "mass of stuff" to work w/cf (well 
other than cf but then again you need to know PHP before you can develop 
applications w/it too).

it seems your opinions about cf are pretty much all wrong.

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex server language

2009-02-21 Thread Jeffry Houser 
Amy wrote:
> I don't remember why, when I'd never had PHP installed on my machine, 
> I knew that the place to start out with PHP was to install WAMP.  It 
> was probably one of those random facts I'd filed away when I didn't 
> need to care for when I did.  I suspect I'm not uncommon in knowing 
> that that's where you go when you want to set up PHP painlessly on 
> your machine. 
 In that case, I am the anomaly.  Because this thread is the first I've 
heard of WAMP.  Granted I don't normally travel in PHP Developer 
circles, but neither (I suspect) would most newbies to the technology. 

> An important difference between ColdFusion and php, as you rightly 
> pointed out, is that php is installed on the server only--you don't 
> need any special software to write php code, 
  I'm sorry if I communicated this; as it is completely untrue and not 
something I intended to say.  ColdFusion code (CFML) can be written in 
any text editor, including notepad if you really wanted to. 
> and you don't need any 
> background knowledge other than what you need for any other web 
> technoloty. 
 
> I don't know much about ColdFusion, but I do know that 
> the pages are compiled, so I wouldn't be able to just walk in and use 
> CF without at least figuring out how to go from source code to 
> compiled whatever. 
 You're understanding is incomplete.  ColdFusion is a server side 
technology. Pages are compiled on the fly by the server and cached in 
memory.  The developer has to do nothing.special other than write CFML 
in their HTML pages and give them a 'cfm' extension.  Is PHP any 
different?  As far as I understand, it is not. 

> There are probably several other things like that 
> that you need to learn in CF before you can actually become 
> productive, so it's not just installation time, it's that whole other 
> mass of "stuff" you need to know before you can use CF.
>   
  I would argue that this is not unique to CF.  Despite your earlier 
claim that anyone who knows "web technology" can start doing PHP 
immediately, I doubt an HTML / CSS / Designer person w/ no programming 
knowledge / experience would be able to pick it up and go.  There will 
be a learning curve.  In that respect, there is no difference between CF 
and PHP.  (or .NET, Java, Ruby, Python, etc... )

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[flexcoders] Re: Flex server language

2009-02-21 Thread Amy 
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Jeffry Houser  wrote:
>
> 
>   It's easy to get things done / setup if you already know what 
you're 
> doing.  But, lets compare apples to apples here.
> 
>  It seems logical to me that someone wanting to install CF would 
start 
> at Adobe.com , and from there could easily find and download the 
> installers. 
>  I chose, Products ColdFusion, and download Free Trial.  Login and 
I can 
> either download the developer edition or the trial edition; with 
various 
> options for language and/or OS. 
> 
>  The CF install process is relatively painless across operating 
systems 
> and across web servers.  I have no doubt Adobe (Macromedia / 
Allaire) 
> has devoted time to making that easy over the years.
> 
>  I doubt the download / install can be done in 10 minutes, but it 
is a 
> relatively painless process. 
> 
>  On the other hand, if I go to PHP.com (oops, I mean PHP.net ) I 
click 
> the download link in the nav bar it gives me 6 options for Windows 
> Binaries, I have 6 options of 5.2.8 for Windows.  I have no idea 
which 
> one is the I need; but none of them are labeled WAMP installer. 
> 
>  What would make me, as a PHP newbie, go looking for an installer 
from a 
> 3rd party?  What if I don't want to install Apache or MySQL? 

I don't remember why, when I'd never had PHP installed on my machine, 
I knew that the place to start out with PHP was to install WAMP.  It 
was probably one of those random facts I'd filed away when I didn't 
need to care for when I did.  I suspect I'm not uncommon in knowing 
that that's where you go when you want to set up PHP painlessly on 
your machine.  I think that it's a good habit to get into when you're 
a developer of any kind to note and possibly even bookmark 
information that might be of use later.

An important difference between ColdFusion and php, as you rightly 
pointed out, is that php is installed on the server only--you don't 
need any special software to write php code, and you don't need any 
background knowledge other than what you need for any other web 
technoloty.  I don't know much about ColdFusion, but I do know that 
the pages are compiled, so I wouldn't be able to just walk in and use 
CF without at least figuring out how to go from source code to 
compiled whatever.  There are probably several other things like that 
that you need to learn in CF before you can actually become 
productive, so it's not just installation time, it's that whole other 
mass of "stuff" you need to know before you can use CF.

Whereas, with PHP, if you have a basic knowledge of html, css, and 
database connectivity you're pretty much set with a WAMP installation 
and a link to the PHP docs.

I guess it also depends on your motivation for wanting to install 
PHP.  If you're wanting to enhance your skill set for potential 
employers, of course you want to be able to say that you have the 
skills that commonly "go along" with php--Apache and mySQL.  I think 
most people would find php by itself of limited use.

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex server language

2009-02-20 Thread Laurent Cozic 
Although I prefer open source software, it's true that most of the time it's 
harder to use an open source version that a "paid for" equivalent. Coldfusion 
is easier to setup than PHP, Photoshop or Word are more user friendly than Gimp 
or OpenOffice and so on.

Open source software is free but you're kind of expected to make more efforts 
to use it - i.e. read the doc, search Google. Once you are used to it though, 
it's just as good as the paid equivalents.

--
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--- On Fri, 2/20/09, Jeffry Houser  wrote:
From: Jeffry Houser 
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex server language
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 4:29 PM


















  It's easy to get things done / setup if you already know what you're
doing.  But, lets compare apples to apples here.



 It seems logical to me that someone wanting to install CF would start
at Adobe.com , and from there could easily find and download the
installers.  

 I chose, Products ColdFusion, and download Free Trial.  Login and I
can either download the developer edition or the trial edition; with
various options for language and/or OS.  



 The CF install process is relatively painless across operating systems
and across web servers.  I have no doubt Adobe (Macromedia / Allaire)
has devoted time to making that easy over the years.



 I doubt the download / install can be done in 10 minutes, but it is a
relatively painless process.  



 On the other hand, if I go to PHP.com (oops, I mean PHP.net ) I click
the download link in the nav bar it gives me 6 options for Windows
Binaries, I have 6 options of 5.2.8 for Windows.  I have no idea which
one is the I need; but none of them are labeled WAMP installer.  



 What would make me, as a PHP newbie, go looking for an installer from
a 3rd party?  What if I don't want to install Apache or MySQL?  





Amy wrote:

  --- In flexcod...@yahoogro ups.com, Jeffry Houser  wrote:
  
  
 I prefer CF because it is what I know.  Since it comes from Adobe 

  
  it's 
  
  
integration w/ Flex is top notch. 

 After 2 days of trying, I gave up trying to get PHP to work on my 

  
  dev 
  
  
machine; so I'm amused by the claim it can be setup w/ minimal fuss. 

  
  I wonder how 10 minutes to find and install WAMP stacks up against the 
time to order Coldfusion, get it, and install it...?


  





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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex server language

2009-02-20 Thread Jeffry Houser 


 It's easy to get things done / setup if you already know what you're 
doing.  But, lets compare apples to apples here.


It seems logical to me that someone wanting to install CF would start 
at Adobe.com , and from there could easily find and download the 
installers. 
I chose, Products ColdFusion, and download Free Trial.  Login and I can 
either download the developer edition or the trial edition; with various 
options for language and/or OS. 

The CF install process is relatively painless across operating systems 
and across web servers.  I have no doubt Adobe (Macromedia / Allaire) 
has devoted time to making that easy over the years.


I doubt the download / install can be done in 10 minutes, but it is a 
relatively painless process. 

On the other hand, if I go to PHP.com (oops, I mean PHP.net ) I click 
the download link in the nav bar it gives me 6 options for Windows 
Binaries, I have 6 options of 5.2.8 for Windows.  I have no idea which 
one is the I need; but none of them are labeled WAMP installer. 

What would make me, as a PHP newbie, go looking for an installer from a 
3rd party?  What if I don't want to install Apache or MySQL? 



Amy wrote:

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Jeffry Houser  wrote:
  
 I prefer CF because it is what I know.  Since it comes from Adobe 

it's 
  
integration w/ Flex is top notch. 

 After 2 days of trying, I gave up trying to get PHP to work on my 

dev 
  
machine; so I'm amused by the claim it can be setup w/ minimal fuss. 



I wonder how 10 minutes to find and install WAMP stacks up against the 
time to order Coldfusion, get it, and install it...?



  



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[flexcoders] Re: Flex server language

2009-02-20 Thread Amy 
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Jeffry Houser  wrote:
>
> 
>  I prefer CF because it is what I know.  Since it comes from Adobe 
it's 
> integration w/ Flex is top notch. 
> 
>  After 2 days of trying, I gave up trying to get PHP to work on my 
dev 
> machine; so I'm amused by the claim it can be setup w/ minimal fuss. 

I wonder how 10 minutes to find and install WAMP stacks up against the 
time to order Coldfusion, get it, and install it...?

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex server language

2009-02-19 Thread dnk 


On 19-Feb-09, at 9:42 AM, Jeffry Houser wrote:

 It was on windows, years ago, and I was trying to get it to work w/  
IIS not Apache.

 I don't remember specific issues, though.



Yeah, when going with IIS, it is a bit of a manual process. But with  
the installers, it was a breeze. And sets up all the elements at once.


d

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex server language

2009-02-19 Thread Jeffry Houser 


It was on windows, years ago, and I was trying to get it to work w/ IIS 
not Apache. 
I don't remember specific issues, though. 


Dnk wrote:
On windows and mac, there are all encompassing dev installers that 
will install PHP, apache and mysql in a matter of minutes without any 
real config needed. They have a GUI for the most common changes you 
may want to make.  

I believe the win one is called WAMP and the mac one is MAMP. 



Never had an issue with them. Easy as pie. 
D



On 19-Feb-09, at 5:09 AM, Jeffry Houser > wrote:




 I prefer CF because it is what I know.  Since it comes from Adobe 
it's integration w/ Flex is top notch. 

 After 2 days of trying, I gave up trying to get PHP to work on my 
dev machine; so I'm amused by the claim it can be setup w/ minimal 
fuss. 




On windows


Dnk wrote:

Again, this comes to preference, but for me I like PHP due to the 
fact Ito is available on a huge number of the web hosts out there, 
and it can be run on Linux, win or osx with minimal fuss. Easy to 
setup a dev machine without vendor lockin.  


Dk



On 18-Feb-09, at 7:10 PM, "bsyyu" > wrote:



Thanks for your comments.
I am not a student for learning. Currently I have finished my first
project with Flex for a shopping cart project.
http://www.fredederick.com/fredederick_shop_online/
It is done with PHP backend.

After that project, I have intention to develop a DIY shopping cart
system such as X-cart with Flex and would like to know which server
language best fit with Flex, regarding the speed and support etc. and
also sometimes customer may have their own server system that I have
to fit into, then which backend is most popular etc.

thanks

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
, Dnk  wrote:

>
> They will all get the job done.
>
> It is matter of requirements and preferences for the job.
>
> Dustin Krysak
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 18-Feb-09, at 4:31 PM, "bsyyu"  wrote:
>
> > currently, I am using PHP as server language. In fact I would 
like to
> > learn other server language in combination using Flex. Any 
suggestion

> > such as .NET, coldfusion or JSP.
> >
> >
>



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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex server language

2009-02-19 Thread Dnk 
On windows and mac, there are all encompassing dev installers that  
will install PHP, apache and mysql in a matter of minutes without any  
real config needed. They have a GUI for the most common changes you  
may want to make.


I believe the win one is called WAMP and the mac one is MAMP.


Never had an issue with them. Easy as pie.
D


On 19-Feb-09, at 5:09 AM, Jeffry Houser  wrote:



 I prefer CF because it is what I know.  Since it comes from Adobe  
it's integration w/ Flex is top notch.


 After 2 days of trying, I gave up trying to get PHP to work on my  
dev machine; so I'm amused by the claim it can be setup w/ minimal  
fuss.






On windows

Dnk wrote:

Again, this comes to preference, but for me I like PHP due to the  
fact Ito is available on a huge number of the web hosts out there,  
and it can be run on Linux, win or osx with minimal fuss. Easy to  
setup a dev machine without vendor lockin.


Dk



On 18-Feb-09, at 7:10 PM, "bsyyu"  wrote:


Thanks for your comments.
I am not a student for learning. Currently I have finished my first
project with Flex for a shopping cart project.
http://www.fredederick.com/fredederick_shop_online/
It is done with PHP backend.

After that project, I have intention to develop a DIY shopping cart
system such as X-cart with Flex and would like to know which server
language best fit with Flex, regarding the speed and support etc.  
and

also sometimes customer may have their own server system that I have
to fit into, then which backend is most popular etc.

thanks

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Dnk  wrote:
>
> They will all get the job done.
>
> It is matter of requirements and preferences for the job.
>
> Dustin Krysak
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 18-Feb-09, at 4:31 PM, "bsyyu"  wrote:
>
> > currently, I am using PHP as server language. In fact I would  
like to
> > learn other server language in combination using Flex. Any  
suggestion

> > such as .NET, coldfusion or JSP.
> >
> >
>





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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex server language

2009-02-19 Thread Jeffry Houser 


 The "ColdFusion is Dead" argument has come up somewhere every 6 months 
for the past 8 years.


I perceive, from Adobe's stand point that CF is a stable product showing 
consistent growth.  CF was designed for web development and that is 
something that it does wonderfully well.  But, that makes it a niche 
product when compared to .NET or Java which are the end all to any 
programming need.


To give a few indications of the market:

1) There are CFML alternatives to Adobe's ColdFusion, including open 
source ones.  Check out Open BlueDragon, Railo, (both Java based like 
CF), or BlueDragon.NET (runs on .NET ).  Obviously someone must think 
there is a market.  WebORB also has a ColdFusion specific version. 
2) After Allaire was acquired by Macromedia; the number of developers 
was estimated at 350K.  Today it is estimated at ~500K.  ( 
http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/pdfs/adobecoldfusionevangelismkit.pdf 
) . 

Even if the number of Flex Developer's grow 100%, there will still be 
less Flex Developer's than CF Developers.  OF course Flex and CF are 
treated differently because Flex is viewed as a growth market, while CF 
is stable / mature.  And dollar for dollar, you get a lot of stuff built 
in to CF that would be add-ons to other platforms. 



Paul Andrews wrote:
One thing really does concern me though about CF - how is it faring in the 
marketplace? In some quarters you'd imagine it was a dead technology from 
the way it is talked about and there always seems to be a disparity between 
it's functionality and takeup.


Adopting a core serverver-side laguage is not easy - the market seems pretty 
fragmented.


Paul

  

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currently, I am using PHP as server language. In fact I would like to
learn other server language in combination using Flex. Any suggestion
such as .NET, coldfusion or JSP.
  






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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex server language

2009-02-19 Thread Jeffry Houser 


I prefer CF because it is what I know.  Since it comes from Adobe it's 
integration w/ Flex is top notch. 

After 2 days of trying, I gave up trying to get PHP to work on my dev 
machine; so I'm amused by the claim it can be setup w/ minimal fuss. 


Dnk wrote:
Again, this comes to preference, but for me I like PHP due to the fact 
Ito is available on a huge number of the web hosts out there, and it 
can be run on Linux, win or osx with minimal fuss. Easy to setup a dev 
machine without vendor lockin.  


Dk



On 18-Feb-09, at 7:10 PM, "bsyyu" > wrote:



Thanks for your comments.
I am not a student for learning. Currently I have finished my first
project with Flex for a shopping cart project.
http://www.fredederick.com/fredederick_shop_online/
It is done with PHP backend.

After that project, I have intention to develop a DIY shopping cart
system such as X-cart with Flex and would like to know which server
language best fit with Flex, regarding the speed and support etc. and
also sometimes customer may have their own server system that I have
to fit into, then which backend is most popular etc.

thanks

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
, Dnk  wrote:

>
> They will all get the job done.
>
> It is matter of requirements and preferences for the job.
>
> Dustin Krysak
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 18-Feb-09, at 4:31 PM, "bsyyu"  wrote:
>
> > currently, I am using PHP as server language. In fact I would like to
> > learn other server language in combination using Flex. Any suggestion
> > such as .NET, coldfusion or JSP.
> >
> >
>







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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex server language

2009-02-19 Thread Paul Andrews 
- Original Message - 
From: "Don Kerr" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:25 AM
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Flex server language


>I recommend you take a serious look at ColdFusion .  Here is an Adobe site 
>that talks the
> features and benefits of building RIAs with Adobe Flex/ColdFusion.
> http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/flex_cf.html
>
> It is clearly the best fit promoted by Adobe.  Adobe does a lot of work to 
> bring Flex and CF
> together, such as out-of-the-flex support within CF.
>
> I agree. Any software language can meet any requirement.
>
> But, from my 20 years of doing/managing development in many different 
> server
> technologies ... CF is by far the fastest to train, learn and implement 
> rapidly.  Since you
> know php, adding CF to your skill set will be any easy route to take. 
> After all, ColdFusion
> is Javajust a heck of a lot easier.
>
> Good thing that Flex is Flexible and you can choose.  I have some Flex 
> apps that use CF,
> .Net, and Java on the back-end ... since in a Web 2.0/SOA architecture ... 
> you can have
> many backends to a single Flex app.
>
> ... and the end user doesn't care what "shop" or "camp" your technology 
> religion is anyway.
> :)
>
> Give CF a try. It will only take you a day to have your first Flex/CF app 
> up and running!
>
> Don Kerr

Coming from a Java background and having had some small exposure to CF, I 
would agree with Don, particularly with the features that CF offers besides 
the scripting language and DB support - reporting especially.

One thing really does concern me though about CF - how is it faring in the 
marketplace? In some quarters you'd imagine it was a dead technology from 
the way it is talked about and there always seems to be a disparity between 
it's functionality and takeup.

Adopting a core serverver-side laguage is not easy - the market seems pretty 
fragmented.

Paul

> --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "bsyyu"  wrote:
>>
>> currently, I am using PHP as server language. In fact I would like to
>> learn other server language in combination using Flex. Any suggestion
>> such as .NET, coldfusion or JSP.

[flexcoders] Re: Flex server language

2009-02-19 Thread Don Kerr 
I recommend you take a serious look at ColdFusion .  Here is an Adobe site that 
talks the 
features and benefits of building RIAs with Adobe Flex/ColdFusion.
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/flex_cf.html 

It is clearly the best fit promoted by Adobe.  Adobe does a lot of work to 
bring Flex and CF 
together, such as out-of-the-flex support within CF.

I agree. Any software language can meet any requirement.  

But, from my 20 years of doing/managing development in many different server 
technologies ... CF is by far the fastest to train, learn and implement 
rapidly.  Since you 
know php, adding CF to your skill set will be any easy route to take.  After 
all, ColdFusion 
is Javajust a heck of a lot easier.

Good thing that Flex is Flexible and you can choose.  I have some Flex apps 
that use CF, 
.Net, and Java on the back-end ... since in a Web 2.0/SOA architecture ... you 
can have 
many backends to a single Flex app.

... and the end user doesn't care what "shop" or "camp" your technology 
religion is anyway. 
:)

Give CF a try. It will only take you a day to have your first Flex/CF app up 
and running!

Don Kerr







--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "bsyyu"  wrote:
>
> currently, I am using PHP as server language. In fact I would like to
> learn other server language in combination using Flex. Any suggestion
> such as .NET, coldfusion or JSP.
>

[flexcoders] Re: Flex server language

2009-02-19 Thread gers32 
Ruby on Rails is interesting because of the little amount of code you
need to write, compared to Java for example. My RoR back end server
deals with the database (Oracle in my case) and communicates with a
Flex front end via XML. Of course, you can use AMF, but in my
situation I don't have such high performance requirements.

Chris.

RE: [flexcoders] Re: Flex server language

2009-02-18 Thread Johan Öbrink 
They are all popular. I think the .Net platform is growing while Java is 
diminishing but I may be misinformed and that may be temporary. I personally 
prefer the .Net platform and C#. You seem to know PHP so that may be the 
fastest way for you to leverage your knowledge.

 

No matter what server side platform / language you choose, I advise you to look 
into AMF as a communication protocol. There are several gateways for each of 
the languages (Like FluorineFX for .Net, Zend AMF for PHP etc). In this area, 
Java is possibly the most interesting language since it offers you a way into 
Red5 and BlazeDS.

 

Kind regards,

 

/Johan

 

From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of bsyyu
Sent: den 19 februari 2009 04:10
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Flex server language

 

Thanks for your comments.
I am not a student for learning. Currently I have finished my first
project with Flex for a shopping cart project.
http://www.fredederick.com/fredederick_shop_online/ 
<http://www.fredederick.com/fredederick_shop_online/> 
It is done with PHP backend.

After that project, I have intention to develop a DIY shopping cart
system such as X-cart with Flex and would like to know which server
language best fit with Flex, regarding the speed and support etc. and
also sometimes customer may have their own server system that I have
to fit into, then which backend is most popular etc.

thanks

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> , Dnk 
mailto:d.k.emailli...@...> > wrote:
>
> They will all get the job done.
> 
> It is matter of requirements and preferences for the job.
> 
> Dustin Krysak
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 18-Feb-09, at 4:31 PM, "bsyyu" mailto:ben.s...@...> > wrote:
> 
> > currently, I am using PHP as server language. In fact I would like to
> > learn other server language in combination using Flex. Any suggestion
> > such as .NET, coldfusion or JSP.
> >
> >
>



 

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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex server language

2009-02-18 Thread Dnk 
Again, this comes to preference, but for me I like PHP due to the fact  
Ito is available on a huge number of the web hosts out there, and it  
can be run on Linux, win or osx with minimal fuss. Easy to setup a dev  
machine without vendor lockin.


Dk



On 18-Feb-09, at 7:10 PM, "bsyyu"  wrote:


Thanks for your comments.
I am not a student for learning. Currently I have finished my first
project with Flex for a shopping cart project.
http://www.fredederick.com/fredederick_shop_online/
It is done with PHP backend.

After that project, I have intention to develop a DIY shopping cart
system such as X-cart with Flex and would like to know which server
language best fit with Flex, regarding the speed and support etc. and
also sometimes customer may have their own server system that I have
to fit into, then which backend is most popular etc.

thanks

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Dnk  wrote:
>
> They will all get the job done.
>
> It is matter of requirements and preferences for the job.
>
> Dustin Krysak
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 18-Feb-09, at 4:31 PM, "bsyyu"  wrote:
>
> > currently, I am using PHP as server language. In fact I would  
like to
> > learn other server language in combination using Flex. Any  
suggestion

> > such as .NET, coldfusion or JSP.
> >
> >
>

[flexcoders] Re: Flex server language

2009-02-18 Thread bsyyu 
Thanks for your comments.
I am not a student for learning. Currently I have finished my first
project with Flex for a shopping cart project.
http://www.fredederick.com/fredederick_shop_online/
It is done with PHP backend.

After that project, I have intention to develop a DIY shopping cart
system such as X-cart with Flex and would like to know which server
language best fit with Flex, regarding the speed and support etc. and
also sometimes customer may have their own server system that I have
to fit into, then which backend is most popular etc.

thanks


--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Dnk  wrote:
>
> They will all get the job done.
> 
> It is matter of requirements and preferences for the job.
> 
> Dustin Krysak
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 18-Feb-09, at 4:31 PM, "bsyyu"  wrote:
> 
> > currently, I am using PHP as server language. In fact I would like to
> > learn other server language in combination using Flex. Any suggestion
> > such as .NET, coldfusion or JSP.
> >
> >
>